Anonymous
Post 08/10/2021 20:06     Subject: Good safety schools for those who like W&M?
UVA
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2021 19:43     Subject: Re:Good safety schools for those who like W&M?
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone know anything about The College of New Jersey? It seems to have some similarities, definitely similar in size.


NJ native here. Yes, CNJ definitely qualifies as a poor man's William & Mary. Only 7 percent of its students are from out of state and they're working to increase that so it's actually easier to get in from out of state than in. They also offer merit aid.

Of course, it's got nowhere near the reputation of William & Mary. But in the tri-state area it's highly regarded.


It is? NJ native here and I have never heard of it - is it the former Trenton State? If so, I would hardly call it “highly regarded” in NJ - the state flagship Rutgers is barely highly regarded by many NJ residents.


Yes, it is.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2021 19:35     Subject: Good safety schools for those who like W&M?
Anonymous wrote:The schools that are most like William and Mary (size, academics, largely residential) are primarily private. Public schools tend to be either significantly larger or not at a similar level academically.



A safety wouldn't be at a similar level academically.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2021 19:34     Subject: Re:Good safety schools for those who like W&M?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone know anything about The College of New Jersey? It seems to have some similarities, definitely similar in size.


NJ native here. Yes, CNJ definitely qualifies as a poor man's William & Mary. Only 7 percent of its students are from out of state and they're working to increase that so it's actually easier to get in from out of state than in. They also offer merit aid.

Of course, it's got nowhere near the reputation of William & Mary. But in the tri-state area it's highly regarded.


It is? NJ native here and I have never heard of it - is it the former Trenton State? If so, I would hardly call it “highly regarded” in NJ - the state flagship Rutgers is barely highly regarded by many NJ residents.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2021 19:23     Subject: Re:Good safety schools for those who like W&M?
Anonymous wrote:Anyone know anything about The College of New Jersey? It seems to have some similarities, definitely similar in size.


Good school but very regional. It's as New Jersey as a fist pump.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2021 19:23     Subject: Re:Good safety schools for those who like W&M?
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Anonymous wrote:I’ve never known anyone, or heard about anyone, who said, oh, I didn’t get into William & Mary, so now I’m going to UMW. Aim higher.


You're not a Virginia resident.


I am, and I would not want my kid who just missed W&M to go to UMW.


Great! More room for my kid. Everyone I know who attended UMW loved it and is either employed or in grad school.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2021 17:49     Subject: Re:Good safety schools for those who like W&M?
Anonymous wrote:Anyone know anything about The College of New Jersey? It seems to have some similarities, definitely similar in size.


NJ native here. Yes, CNJ definitely qualifies as a poor man's William & Mary. Only 7 percent of its students are from out of state and they're working to increase that so it's actually easier to get in from out of state than in. They also offer merit aid.

Of course, it's got nowhere near the reputation of William & Mary. But in the tri-state area it's highly regarded.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2021 16:54     Subject: Good safety schools for those who like W&M?
Anonymous wrote:Miami of Ohio is one of the few public schools similar in size to William and Mary , but is way easier for admissions (80%+ acceptance rate) and more of a party school (huge fraternity/sorority scene).


It is more similar to JMU in size. It has a nice campus.

Anonymous
Post 08/10/2021 16:40     Subject: Re:Good safety schools for those who like W&M?
Anyone know anything about The College of New Jersey? It seems to have some similarities, definitely similar in size.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2021 16:37     Subject: Good safety schools for those who like W&M?
Miami of Ohio is one of the few public schools similar in size to William and Mary , but is way easier for admissions (80%+ acceptance rate) and more of a party school (huge fraternity/sorority scene).
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2021 14:55     Subject: Good safety schools for those who like W&M?
The schools that are most like William and Mary (size, academics, largely residential) are primarily private. Public schools tend to be either significantly larger or not at a similar level academically.

Anonymous
Post 08/10/2021 14:52     Subject: Good safety schools for those who like W&M?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UVA


As a safety for W&M?


I don't think they were serious. With their stats, neither one is realistically a safety for very many applicants. And you also probably have to apply early to increase your chances.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2021 14:41     Subject: Good safety schools for those who like W&M?
Anonymous wrote:UVA


As a safety for W&M?
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2021 14:26     Subject: Re:Good safety schools for those who like W&M?
Anonymous wrote:If you are saying w&m is likely based on stats but need a safety, the classic safety for w&m is Mary Washington. Possibly JMU.


The ones in state that might seem the most similar are Mary Washington and Christopher Newport. JMU is quite a bit bigger.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2021 14:22     Subject: Re:Good safety schools for those who like W&M?
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Anonymous wrote:William and Mary has fallen off so you probably don’t even need a safety anymore.


At W&M, the middle bar of SATs 1300-1490, middle ACT 30-34. That means a full quarter of the students are in the 99.9%ile for standardized tests. It may not be Harvard, but most of us need a safety.


I agree with you, but 1490 is the 97th percentile.


Not according to this chart: https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/pdf/understanding-sat-scores.pdf


The SAT user is the more important number, so 98th.
Okay, so a quarter are above that in 2020 scores. And similar for past decade. Same point.


With the move to standardized tests optional, which is likely here to stay, the middle 50 is moving to 1370-1520 SAT composite for the incoming class. 1520 is 99th percentile. 1370 is 92nd percentile for SAT user.