Anonymous
Post 07/31/2021 08:40     Subject: Mayor Bowser calling for more police and more police funding

'redlined them out of many parts of the city"

Magic dirt theory
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2021 22:32     Subject: Mayor Bowser calling for more police and more police funding

Anonymous wrote:I thought police were evil, racist oppressors? Now cops are good again?


Well most of these people don't realize the demographics of the MPDC. They assume every cop in America is a white conservative male.
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2021 22:29     Subject: Re:Mayor Bowser calling for more police and more police funding

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It's more complex. I used to be the COO of OSSE. I really don't know where all the education money goes. We also need housing and mental health services.


What we need is the political will to tell people to parent their children. To tell women not to have multiple children by multiple men to whom they are not married when neither parent has the education or job skills to take care of their children.
What we KNOW is that finishing high school and delaying child-bearing until you are an employed adult is the way out of poverty. Bonus points for getting married and staying married in terms of beneficial outcomes for kids.
Do we need programs that help people who failed to make those prudent life choices? Yes. But we also need for politicians to be very vocal about what society's expectations are in terms of people getting themselves together. Instead, all DC politicians do is blame "the other"---schools, gentrifiers, systemic racism---without every uttering a single word about personal responsibility.


+1. Absolutely. The kids who are carjacking and committing armed robberies at age 13 aren’t doing it because of systemic racism.


Correct. And it is disgusting people use that as an excuse.
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2021 20:56     Subject: Re:Mayor Bowser calling for more police and more police funding

Anonymous wrote:The cops are doing their jobs. It's the prosecutors and courts that are letting offenders out with no bail, and no jail time.


+ 1 million but who's pressuring them to do that?!
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2021 20:27     Subject: Re:Mayor Bowser calling for more police and more police funding

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It's more complex. I used to be the COO of OSSE. I really don't know where all the education money goes. We also need housing and mental health services.


What we need is the political will to tell people to parent their children. To tell women not to have multiple children by multiple men to whom they are not married when neither parent has the education or job skills to take care of their children.
What we KNOW is that finishing high school and delaying child-bearing until you are an employed adult is the way out of poverty. Bonus points for getting married and staying married in terms of beneficial outcomes for kids.
Do we need programs that help people who failed to make those prudent life choices? Yes. But we also need for politicians to be very vocal about what society's expectations are in terms of people getting themselves together. Instead, all DC politicians do is blame "the other"---schools, gentrifiers, systemic racism---without every uttering a single word about personal responsibility.


+1. Absolutely. The kids who are carjacking and committing armed robberies at age 13 aren’t doing it because of systemic racism.


Yes they absolutely are.

Why do you think they don't have strong parent figures to show them right from wrong? Why do you think they don't care about consequences because they feel they have nothing to lose?

Because we incarcerate black people at a disproportionate rate and give them disproportionate sentences compared to other races. Because applicants with black sounding names are 50% less likely to receive a callback despite submitting an identical resume as someone with a white sounding name. Because for decades we denied black people home loans and redlined them out of many parts of the city, concentrating poverty and denying them the single greatest wealth-builder in the world. Because we concentrate public and affordable housing in the ghettos created by that redlining which perpetuates the cycle of poverty and creates long commutes for residents - time they could be spending with their kids. Because we introduced crack into their communities to fund illegal operations in South America. Because we allowed their communities to become food deserts, making it harder for developing kids to get proper nutrition.

It's literally ALL because of systemic racism.


What's interesting is that if DC were to go after illegal guns hard (we don't) another generation of black males would be imprisoned/taken off the streets like the crack wars. According to Countee it's the same group reoffending over and over behind these crimes and killings of innocent children and bystanders . So how do you propose to solve this?


I guess we better wait for a proprtional number of white/Latinx/Asians to commit those crimes then the police can equitably arrest these offenders.


Crack sentencing stopped a LOT of death in the inner city, but today people say it wreaked havoc on a generation of black males. Which is it?
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2021 19:40     Subject: Re:Mayor Bowser calling for more police and more police funding

Anonymous wrote:
It's more complex. I used to be the COO of OSSE. I really don't know where all the education money goes. We also need housing and mental health services.


What we need is the political will to tell people to parent their children. To tell women not to have multiple children by multiple men to whom they are not married when neither parent has the education or job skills to take care of their children.
What we KNOW is that finishing high school and delaying child-bearing until you are an employed adult is the way out of poverty. Bonus points for getting married and staying married in terms of beneficial outcomes for kids.
Do we need programs that help people who failed to make those prudent life choices? Yes. But we also need for politicians to be very vocal about what society's expectations are in terms of people getting themselves together. Instead, all DC politicians do is blame "the other"---schools, gentrifiers, systemic racism---without every uttering a single word about personal responsibility.


Hear hear.
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2021 19:36     Subject: Re:Mayor Bowser calling for more police and more police funding

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It's more complex. I used to be the COO of OSSE. I really don't know where all the education money goes. We also need housing and mental health services.


What we need is the political will to tell people to parent their children. To tell women not to have multiple children by multiple men to whom they are not married when neither parent has the education or job skills to take care of their children.
What we KNOW is that finishing high school and delaying child-bearing until you are an employed adult is the way out of poverty. Bonus points for getting married and staying married in terms of beneficial outcomes for kids.
Do we need programs that help people who failed to make those prudent life choices? Yes. But we also need for politicians to be very vocal about what society's expectations are in terms of people getting themselves together. Instead, all DC politicians do is blame "the other"---schools, gentrifiers, systemic racism---without every uttering a single word about personal responsibility.


+1. Absolutely. The kids who are carjacking and committing armed robberies at age 13 aren’t doing it because of systemic racism.


Yes they absolutely are.

Why do you think they don't have strong parent figures to show them right from wrong? Why do you think they don't care about consequences because they feel they have nothing to lose?

Because we incarcerate black people at a disproportionate rate and give them disproportionate sentences compared to other races. Because applicants with black sounding names are 50% less likely to receive a callback despite submitting an identical resume as someone with a white sounding name. Because for decades we denied black people home loans and redlined them out of many parts of the city, concentrating poverty and denying them the single greatest wealth-builder in the world. Because we concentrate public and affordable housing in the ghettos created by that redlining which perpetuates the cycle of poverty and creates long commutes for residents - time they could be spending with their kids. Because we introduced crack into their communities to fund illegal operations in South America. Because we allowed their communities to become food deserts, making it harder for developing kids to get proper nutrition.

It's literally ALL because of systemic racism.


What's interesting is that if DC were to go after illegal guns hard (we don't) another generation of black males would be imprisoned/taken off the streets like the crack wars. According to Countee it's the same group reoffending over and over behind these crimes and killings of innocent children and bystanders . So how do you propose to solve this?


I guess we better wait for a proprtional number of white/Latinx/Asians to commit those crimes then the police can equitably arrest these offenders.
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2021 07:12     Subject: Re:Mayor Bowser calling for more police and more police funding

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It's more complex. I used to be the COO of OSSE. I really don't know where all the education money goes. We also need housing and mental health services.


What we need is the political will to tell people to parent their children. To tell women not to have multiple children by multiple men to whom they are not married when neither parent has the education or job skills to take care of their children.
What we KNOW is that finishing high school and delaying child-bearing until you are an employed adult is the way out of poverty. Bonus points for getting married and staying married in terms of beneficial outcomes for kids.
Do we need programs that help people who failed to make those prudent life choices? Yes. But we also need for politicians to be very vocal about what society's expectations are in terms of people getting themselves together. Instead, all DC politicians do is blame "the other"---schools, gentrifiers, systemic racism---without every uttering a single word about personal responsibility.


+1. Absolutely. The kids who are carjacking and committing armed robberies at age 13 aren’t doing it because of systemic racism.


Yes they absolutely are.

Why do you think they don't have strong parent figures to show them right from wrong? Why do you think they don't care about consequences because they feel they have nothing to lose?

Because we incarcerate black people at a disproportionate rate and give them disproportionate sentences compared to other races. Because applicants with black sounding names are 50% less likely to receive a callback despite submitting an identical resume as someone with a white sounding name. Because for decades we denied black people home loans and redlined them out of many parts of the city, concentrating poverty and denying them the single greatest wealth-builder in the world. Because we concentrate public and affordable housing in the ghettos created by that redlining which perpetuates the cycle of poverty and creates long commutes for residents - time they could be spending with their kids. Because we introduced crack into their communities to fund illegal operations in South America. Because we allowed their communities to become food deserts, making it harder for developing kids to get proper nutrition.

It's literally ALL because of systemic racism.


What's interesting is that if DC were to go after illegal guns hard (we don't) another generation of black males would be imprisoned/taken off the streets like the crack wars. According to Countee it's the same group reoffending over and over behind these crimes and killings of innocent children and bystanders . So how do you propose to solve this?
Anonymous
Post 07/29/2021 22:19     Subject: Re:Mayor Bowser calling for more police and more police funding

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The cops are doing their jobs. It's the prosecutors and courts that are letting offenders out with no bail, and no jail time.


Prosecutors and the courts are controlled by the Federal government, not DC.

It sometimes feels like Federal prosecutors are purposely trying to undermine the DC government.


You can have Steve Descano! He’ll pick up where the Federales left off
Anonymous
Post 07/29/2021 22:08     Subject: Mayor Bowser calling for more police and more police funding

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think this is a good thing!

Source?


Source for it being a good thing or for her saying this?
Anonymous
Post 07/29/2021 17:29     Subject: Mayor Bowser calling for more police and more police funding

Anonymous wrote:I think this is a good thing!


It’s a good start. 500 more, please.
Anonymous
Post 07/29/2021 16:48     Subject: Re:Mayor Bowser calling for more police and more police funding

It isn't about deterring criminals with the threat of a long sentence when they have the gun in their hand. It's about taking career criminals off the streets, at least until they are elderly and pose relatively little threat.


To add, when a man goes to prison without parole for 35 years for a violent gun conviction, he is not able to make any more babies for 35 years and perpetuate that part of the cycle.

This is true regardless of the skin color of the man, btw. It applies to white meth dealers in the Ohio River Valley.

People always decry the fatherless kids whose sperm providers are locked up and how this "destabilizes communities" and "perpetuates poverty." They never also discuss in the same breath that Locked Up Pete 1) was not providing for the tots he already had in that community, and 2) was acting in a manner that "destabilizes" his neighborhood more than any cop ever could.
Anonymous
Post 07/29/2021 16:38     Subject: Re:Mayor Bowser calling for more police and more police funding

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It's more complex. I used to be the COO of OSSE. I really don't know where all the education money goes. We also need housing and mental health services.


What we need is the political will to tell people to parent their children. To tell women not to have multiple children by multiple men to whom they are not married when neither parent has the education or job skills to take care of their children.
What we KNOW is that finishing high school and delaying child-bearing until you are an employed adult is the way out of poverty. Bonus points for getting married and staying married in terms of beneficial outcomes for kids.
Do we need programs that help people who failed to make those prudent life choices? Yes. But we also need for politicians to be very vocal about what society's expectations are in terms of people getting themselves together. Instead, all DC politicians do is blame "the other"---schools, gentrifiers, systemic racism---without every uttering a single word about personal responsibility.


+1. Absolutely. The kids who are carjacking and committing armed robberies at age 13 aren’t doing it because of systemic racism.


Yes they absolutely are.

Why do you think they don't have strong parent figures to show them right from wrong? Why do you think they don't care about consequences because they feel they have nothing to lose?

Because we incarcerate black people at a disproportionate rate and give them disproportionate sentences compared to other races. Because applicants with black sounding names are 50% less likely to receive a callback despite submitting an identical resume as someone with a white sounding name. Because for decades we denied black people home loans and redlined them out of many parts of the city, concentrating poverty and denying them the single greatest wealth-builder in the world. Because we concentrate public and affordable housing in the ghettos created by that redlining which perpetuates the cycle of poverty and creates long commutes for residents - time they could be spending with their kids. Because we introduced crack into their communities to fund illegal operations in South America. Because we allowed their communities to become food deserts, making it harder for developing kids to get proper nutrition.

It's literally ALL because of systemic racism.


I mean it’s clear we arrest at disproportionate rates, but isn’t that also a product of the disproportionate rates of crimes being committed?


Also, we never introduced crack into their communities. That’s a conspiracy theory. Your post loses credibility because it’s tainted with incorrect information.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/drugs/special/cia.html


I could also go on about “food deserts” and what happens when retailers open organic markets and how people still choose soda and chips, but I won’t try to puncture your narrative any further. You paint people as if their just hopeless victims and you perpetuate the soft bigotry of low expectations. I’ve lived in the inner city for 50 years. It’s always the same story. It’s always someone else’s fault.
Anonymous
Post 07/29/2021 16:29     Subject: Re:Mayor Bowser calling for more police and more police funding

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It's more complex. I used to be the COO of OSSE. I really don't know where all the education money goes. We also need housing and mental health services.


What we need is the political will to tell people to parent their children. To tell women not to have multiple children by multiple men to whom they are not married when neither parent has the education or job skills to take care of their children.
What we KNOW is that finishing high school and delaying child-bearing until you are an employed adult is the way out of poverty. Bonus points for getting married and staying married in terms of beneficial outcomes for kids.
Do we need programs that help people who failed to make those prudent life choices? Yes. But we also need for politicians to be very vocal about what society's expectations are in terms of people getting themselves together. Instead, all DC politicians do is blame "the other"---schools, gentrifiers, systemic racism---without every uttering a single word about personal responsibility.


+1. Absolutely. The kids who are carjacking and committing armed robberies at age 13 aren’t doing it because of systemic racism.


Yes they absolutely are.

Why do you think they don't have strong parent figures to show them right from wrong? Why do you think they don't care about consequences because they feel they have nothing to lose?

Because we incarcerate black people at a disproportionate rate and give them disproportionate sentences compared to other races. Because applicants with black sounding names are 50% less likely to receive a callback despite submitting an identical resume as someone with a white sounding name. Because for decades we denied black people home loans and redlined them out of many parts of the city, concentrating poverty and denying them the single greatest wealth-builder in the world. Because we concentrate public and affordable housing in the ghettos created by that redlining which perpetuates the cycle of poverty and creates long commutes for residents - time they could be spending with their kids. Because we introduced crack into their communities to fund illegal operations in South America. Because we allowed their communities to become food deserts, making it harder for developing kids to get proper nutrition.

It's literally ALL because of systemic racism.


I mean it’s clear we arrest at disproportionate rates, but isn’t that also a product of the disproportionate rates of crimes being committed?


Also, we never introduced crack into their communities. That’s a conspiracy theory. Your post loses credibility because it’s tainted with incorrect information.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/drugs/special/cia.html
Anonymous
Post 07/29/2021 16:28     Subject: Re:Mayor Bowser calling for more police and more police funding

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It's more complex. I used to be the COO of OSSE. I really don't know where all the education money goes. We also need housing and mental health services.


What we need is the political will to tell people to parent their children. To tell women not to have multiple children by multiple men to whom they are not married when neither parent has the education or job skills to take care of their children.
What we KNOW is that finishing high school and delaying child-bearing until you are an employed adult is the way out of poverty. Bonus points for getting married and staying married in terms of beneficial outcomes for kids.
Do we need programs that help people who failed to make those prudent life choices? Yes. But we also need for politicians to be very vocal about what society's expectations are in terms of people getting themselves together. Instead, all DC politicians do is blame "the other"---schools, gentrifiers, systemic racism---without every uttering a single word about personal responsibility.


In the current climate? Yeah fking right. You’d be canceled so quick. Everyone is in the scolding stage. I don’t think we’ll ever get to the honesty stage where you can actually call people out to and just say “hey stop making stupid decisions. Stop blaming external forces. You need some self accountability and to give a fk if your kids can read and write.”


+1. You’ll be accused of being a racist.