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Anonymous wrote:What is PAVE trying to do?

the question is actually, what is OP trying to do by insinuating bad conduct by PAVE? Clearly OP is threatened by PAVE. Why is that, and how do we feel about charters post pandemic school closure? Personally, I used to buy the basic progressive anti-charter stance, but no longer. I don’t think it’s anything but a union-led attack. That’s not to say charters did better during the pandemic, but that I don’t trust the anti-charter faction to give an accurate public policy assessment of modes of public education that sidestep unions (charters, vouchers, testing, etc).

No, the question is actually what is PAVE trying to do. I really don't care what motivations a DCUM poster might have. I do care what motivations a well funded lobbying group might have. The fact that several have shown up here to defend them without addressing what they want, suggests that what they want won't be too popular.

their motivation is to get the in-person engagement of an under-resourced group of parents who need financial assistance to get to the meeting. It’s not uncommon to offer payments to focus group. it reflects that their time is valuable.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you kidding? Charters were a mess responding to the pandemic compared to DCPS. There’s no accountability. I know so many people who lotteried for DCPS this year because their charter schools couldn’t get their heads out of their bums to come up with a reopening plan.

right - but OP isn’t slandering PAVE because she thinks schools should have reopened sooner. Neither sector showed itself to be particularly dedicated to kids during the pandemic. Will be interesting to see how they do next year.

I’m slandering PAVE because they’re funded by the Walton family who want to destroy public schools to cut taxes on the rich.

The two biggest state and local budget lines are schools and police and prisons. There’s a reason the Waltons and Charles Koch fund school “reform” and prison “reform”. They don’t care about the kids or the prisoners. They just want to shrink government to cut taxes on the ultra rich (themselves.)

It’s just hard to take any school reform organization seriously if it takes money from bad actors. Maybe PAVE will do good. Or maybe they have secretive conflicts of interest that affect what they do. We don’t know.

you know who ACTUALLY destroyed my child's schooling for the past 1.5 years? The teacher's union. So spare me the histrionics.

Do I have the following details wrong?
- The vast majority (all?) DC charter schools were closed for the entirety of last school year.
- With few exceptions, those schools do not have unionized teachers.

If those are both correct, then how did the teacher's union destroy your kid's school? Do they dictate policy for charter schools as well?

my kid goes to DCPS. based on the union’s conduct, I have zero trust in teacher’s unions critiques of education policy. it’s all self-interest, and not an honest assessment of charters. Separately, charters have issues of their own. But certainly charters did no worse than DCPS and some did better. My sense is they were able to pivot to DL better in some cases, but were not as good at reopening as quickly as DCPS.

I just don’t understand how people can look at the last 2 years of dcps’ inability to plan, communicate, adapt, fail to follow through on safety protocols and still think this is the fault of unions.
“But they had a one day strike tho”

maybe because that one-day strike resulted in keeping my SN child out of school? Hard to ignore that. And no, I don’t find fault with DCPS’s communication or planning. at the end of the day they came up with a system that allowed local parent pressure to get kids back on a school-by-school basis, and that pivot was done very quickly. they did better than other urban school districts like SF, worse than NYC. There was ONE organization sharing my interest in educating my child, and that was DCPS.

also … their adaption and safety protocols worked very well. our school had 2 covid quarantines in 2 terms - that seems quite good to me. No complaints.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you kidding? Charters were a mess responding to the pandemic compared to DCPS. There’s no accountability. I know so many people who lotteried for DCPS this year because their charter schools couldn’t get their heads out of their bums to come up with a reopening plan.

right - but OP isn’t slandering PAVE because she thinks schools should have reopened sooner. Neither sector showed itself to be particularly dedicated to kids during the pandemic. Will be interesting to see how they do next year.

I’m slandering PAVE because they’re funded by the Walton family who want to destroy public schools to cut taxes on the rich.

The two biggest state and local budget lines are schools and police and prisons. There’s a reason the Waltons and Charles Koch fund school “reform” and prison “reform”. They don’t care about the kids or the prisoners. They just want to shrink government to cut taxes on the ultra rich (themselves.)

It’s just hard to take any school reform organization seriously if it takes money from bad actors. Maybe PAVE will do good. Or maybe they have secretive conflicts of interest that affect what they do. We don’t know.

you know who ACTUALLY destroyed my child's schooling for the past 1.5 years? The teacher's union. So spare me the histrionics.

Do I have the following details wrong?
- The vast majority (all?) DC charter schools were closed for the entirety of last school year.
- With few exceptions, those schools do not have unionized teachers.

If those are both correct, then how did the teacher's union destroy your kid's school? Do they dictate policy for charter schools as well?

my kid goes to DCPS. based on the union’s conduct, I have zero trust in teacher’s unions critiques of education policy. it’s all self-interest, and not an honest assessment of charters. Separately, charters have issues of their own. But certainly charters did no worse than DCPS and some did better. My sense is they were able to pivot to DL better in some cases, but were not as good at reopening as quickly as DCPS.

I just don’t understand how people can look at the last 2 years of dcps’ inability to plan, communicate, adapt, fail to follow through on safety protocols and still think this is the fault of unions.
“But they had a one day strike tho”

maybe because that one-day strike resulted in keeping my SN child out of school? Hard to ignore that. And no, I don’t find fault with DCPS’s communication or planning. at the end of the day they came up with a system that allowed local parent pressure to get kids back on a school-by-school basis, and that pivot was done very quickly. they did better than other urban school districts like SF, worse than NYC. There was ONE organization sharing my interest in educating my child, and that was DCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you kidding? Charters were a mess responding to the pandemic compared to DCPS. There’s no accountability. I know so many people who lotteried for DCPS this year because their charter schools couldn’t get their heads out of their bums to come up with a reopening plan.

right - but OP isn’t slandering PAVE because she thinks schools should have reopened sooner. Neither sector showed itself to be particularly dedicated to kids during the pandemic. Will be interesting to see how they do next year.

I’m slandering PAVE because they’re funded by the Walton family who want to destroy public schools to cut taxes on the rich.

The two biggest state and local budget lines are schools and police and prisons. There’s a reason the Waltons and Charles Koch fund school “reform” and prison “reform”. They don’t care about the kids or the prisoners. They just want to shrink government to cut taxes on the ultra rich (themselves.)

It’s just hard to take any school reform organization seriously if it takes money from bad actors. Maybe PAVE will do good. Or maybe they have secretive conflicts of interest that affect what they do. We don’t know.

you know who ACTUALLY destroyed my child's schooling for the past 1.5 years? The teacher's union. So spare me the histrionics.

Do I have the following details wrong?
- The vast majority (all?) DC charter schools were closed for the entirety of last school year.
- With few exceptions, those schools do not have unionized teachers.

If those are both correct, then how did the teacher's union destroy your kid's school? Do they dictate policy for charter schools as well?

my kid goes to DCPS. based on the union’s conduct, I have zero trust in teacher’s unions critiques of education policy. it’s all self-interest, and not an honest assessment of charters. Separately, charters have issues of their own. But certainly charters did no worse than DCPS and some did better. My sense is they were able to pivot to DL better in some cases, but were not as good at reopening as quickly as DCPS.

I just don’t understand how people can look at the last 2 years of dcps’ inability to plan, communicate, adapt, fail to follow through on safety protocols and still think this is the fault of unions.
“But they had a one day strike tho”

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Anonymous wrote:Are you kidding? Charters were a mess responding to the pandemic compared to DCPS. There’s no accountability. I know so many people who lotteried for DCPS this year because their charter schools couldn’t get their heads out of their bums to come up with a reopening plan.

right - but OP isn’t slandering PAVE because she thinks schools should have reopened sooner. Neither sector showed itself to be particularly dedicated to kids during the pandemic. Will be interesting to see how they do next year.

I’m slandering PAVE because they’re funded by the Walton family who want to destroy public schools to cut taxes on the rich.

The two biggest state and local budget lines are schools and police and prisons. There’s a reason the Waltons and Charles Koch fund school “reform” and prison “reform”. They don’t care about the kids or the prisoners. They just want to shrink government to cut taxes on the ultra rich (themselves.)

It’s just hard to take any school reform organization seriously if it takes money from bad actors. Maybe PAVE will do good. Or maybe they have secretive conflicts of interest that affect what they do. We don’t know.

you know who ACTUALLY destroyed my child's schooling for the past 1.5 years? The teacher's union. So spare me the histrionics.

Do I have the following details wrong?
- The vast majority (all?) DC charter schools were closed for the entirety of last school year.
- With few exceptions, those schools do not have unionized teachers.

If those are both correct, then how did the teacher's union destroy your kid's school? Do they dictate policy for charter schools as well?

my kid goes to DCPS. based on the union’s conduct, I have zero trust in teacher’s unions critiques of education policy. it’s all self-interest, and not an honest assessment of charters. Separately, charters have issues of their own. But certainly charters did no worse than DCPS and some did better. My sense is they were able to pivot to DL better in some cases, but were not as good at reopening as quickly as DCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you kidding? Charters were a mess responding to the pandemic compared to DCPS. There’s no accountability. I know so many people who lotteried for DCPS this year because their charter schools couldn’t get their heads out of their bums to come up with a reopening plan.

right - but OP isn’t slandering PAVE because she thinks schools should have reopened sooner. Neither sector showed itself to be particularly dedicated to kids during the pandemic. Will be interesting to see how they do next year.

I’m slandering PAVE because they’re funded by the Walton family who want to destroy public schools to cut taxes on the rich.

The two biggest state and local budget lines are schools and police and prisons. There’s a reason the Waltons and Charles Koch fund school “reform” and prison “reform”. They don’t care about the kids or the prisoners. They just want to shrink government to cut taxes on the ultra rich (themselves.)

It’s just hard to take any school reform organization seriously if it takes money from bad actors. Maybe PAVE will do good. Or maybe they have secretive conflicts of interest that affect what they do. We don’t know.

you know who ACTUALLY destroyed my child's schooling for the past 1.5 years? The teacher's union. So spare me the histrionics.

Do I have the following details wrong?
- The vast majority (all?) DC charter schools were closed for the entirety of last school year.
- With few exceptions, those schools do not have unionized teachers.

If those are both correct, then how did the teacher's union destroy your kid's school? Do they dictate policy for charter schools as well?

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Anonymous wrote:What is PAVE trying to do?

the question is actually, what is OP trying to do by insinuating bad conduct by PAVE? Clearly OP is threatened by PAVE. Why is that, and how do we feel about charters post pandemic school closure? Personally, I used to buy the basic progressive anti-charter stance, but no longer. I don’t think it’s anything but a union-led attack. That’s not to say charters did better during the pandemic, but that I don’t trust the anti-charter faction to give an accurate public policy assessment of modes of public education that sidestep unions (charters, vouchers, testing, etc).

No, the question is actually what is PAVE trying to do. I really don't care what motivations a DCUM poster might have. I do care what motivations a well funded lobbying group might have. The fact that several have shown up here to defend them without addressing what they want, suggests that what they want won't be too popular.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you kidding? Charters were a mess responding to the pandemic compared to DCPS. There’s no accountability. I know so many people who lotteried for DCPS this year because their charter schools couldn’t get their heads out of their bums to come up with a reopening plan.

right - but OP isn’t slandering PAVE because she thinks schools should have reopened sooner. Neither sector showed itself to be particularly dedicated to kids during the pandemic. Will be interesting to see how they do next year.

I’m slandering PAVE because they’re funded by the Walton family who want to destroy public schools to cut taxes on the rich.

The two biggest state and local budget lines are schools and police and prisons. There’s a reason the Waltons and Charles Koch fund school “reform” and prison “reform”. They don’t care about the kids or the prisoners. They just want to shrink government to cut taxes on the ultra rich (themselves.)

It’s just hard to take any school reform organization seriously if it takes money from bad actors. Maybe PAVE will do good. Or maybe they have secretive conflicts of interest that affect what they do. We don’t know.

you know who ACTUALLY destroyed my child's schooling for the past 1.5 years? The teacher's union. So spare me the histrionics.

Do I have the following details wrong?
- The vast majority (all?) DC charter schools were closed for the entirety of last school year.
- With few exceptions, those schools do not have unionized teachers.

If those are both correct, then how did the teacher's union destroy your kid's school? Do they dictate policy for charter schools as well?

A lot of DC charter schools serve under-served communities, whose constituents did not want IPL. There was an article about KIPP making distance plans for next year, because their populations are not vaccinated and don't want to come in person. That's the reality--and it's good they are planning for it so kids don't fall behind. DCPS should do the same (make a plan B), since Delta is going to shut schools down anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:What is PAVE trying to do?

the question is actually, what is OP trying to do by insinuating bad conduct by PAVE? Clearly OP is threatened by PAVE. Why is that, and how do we feel about charters post pandemic school closure? Personally, I used to buy the basic progressive anti-charter stance, but no longer. I don’t think it’s anything but a union-led attack. That’s not to say charters did better during the pandemic, but that I don’t trust the anti-charter faction to give an accurate public policy assessment of modes of public education that sidestep unions (charters, vouchers, testing, etc).

No, the question is actually what is PAVE trying to do. I really don't care what motivations a DCUM poster might have. I do care what motivations a well funded lobbying group might have. The fact that several have shown up here to defend them without addressing what they want, suggests that what they want won't be too popular.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you kidding? Charters were a mess responding to the pandemic compared to DCPS. There’s no accountability. I know so many people who lotteried for DCPS this year because their charter schools couldn’t get their heads out of their bums to come up with a reopening plan.

right - but OP isn’t slandering PAVE because she thinks schools should have reopened sooner. Neither sector showed itself to be particularly dedicated to kids during the pandemic. Will be interesting to see how they do next year.

I’m slandering PAVE because they’re funded by the Walton family who want to destroy public schools to cut taxes on the rich.

The two biggest state and local budget lines are schools and police and prisons. There’s a reason the Waltons and Charles Koch fund school “reform” and prison “reform”. They don’t care about the kids or the prisoners. They just want to shrink government to cut taxes on the ultra rich (themselves.)

It’s just hard to take any school reform organization seriously if it takes money from bad actors. Maybe PAVE will do good. Or maybe they have secretive conflicts of interest that affect what they do. We don’t know.

you know who ACTUALLY destroyed my child's schooling for the past 1.5 years? The teacher's union. So spare me the histrionics.

Do I have the following details wrong?
- The vast majority (all?) DC charter schools were closed for the entirety of last school year.
- With few exceptions, those schools do not have unionized teachers.

If those are both correct, then how did the teacher's union destroy your kid's school? Do they dictate policy for charter schools as well?

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Anonymous wrote:Is it strange to pay people to be a part of their political constituency? Funders are Walton (Walmart) and others.

Well that explains it. I don't trust anything sourced to those crooks.

How are they “crooks”?

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Anonymous wrote:Are you kidding? Charters were a mess responding to the pandemic compared to DCPS. There’s no accountability. I know so many people who lotteried for DCPS this year because their charter schools couldn’t get their heads out of their bums to come up with a reopening plan.

right - but OP isn’t slandering PAVE because she thinks schools should have reopened sooner. Neither sector showed itself to be particularly dedicated to kids during the pandemic. Will be interesting to see how they do next year.

I’m slandering PAVE because they’re funded by the Walton family who want to destroy public schools to cut taxes on the rich.

The two biggest state and local budget lines are schools and police and prisons. There’s a reason the Waltons and Charles Koch fund school “reform” and prison “reform”. They don’t care about the kids or the prisoners. They just want to shrink government to cut taxes on the ultra rich (themselves.)

It’s just hard to take any school reform organization seriously if it takes money from bad actors. Maybe PAVE will do good. Or maybe they have secretive conflicts of interest that affect what they do. We don’t know.

you know who ACTUALLY destroyed my child's schooling for the past 1.5 years? The teacher's union. So spare me the histrionics.

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Anonymous wrote:What is PAVE trying to do?

the question is actually, what is OP trying to do by insinuating bad conduct by PAVE? Clearly OP is threatened by PAVE. Why is that, and how do we feel about charters post pandemic school closure? Personally, I used to buy the basic progressive anti-charter stance, but no longer. I don’t think it’s anything but a union-led attack. That’s not to say charters did better during the pandemic, but that I don’t trust the anti-charter faction to give an accurate public policy assessment of modes of public education that sidestep unions (charters, vouchers, testing, etc).