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Anonymous wrote:What would you want if you were in that situation? Have you talked to them? Asked them what they need?

I don't see how you expect them to care about what you want if you don't care about what they want. If you're approaching it from and adversarial standpoint you're just using your position of power to prioritize your needs over theirs.

Sorry, but I think this is naive, bad advice.

This person is living in front of OP's home, which means this homeless person could be watching OP's kids and family's comings and goings. I would not interact in any way. You have no idea what kind of mental and other problems this person has.

OP, please keep us posted. I agree with calling the support agency, but I, personally, would also call the police. I would want a complaint on file about this in the unfortunate event that things escalate.

So you're using this route. Got it. Just know that you're an unkind person. And if there's ever a conflict with someone in a higher position of power don't be shocked if they turn the tables on you.

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Anonymous wrote:What would you want if you were in that situation? Have you talked to them? Asked them what they need?

I don't see how you expect them to care about what you want if you don't care about what they want. If you're approaching it from and adversarial standpoint you're just using your position of power to prioritize your needs over theirs.

Sorry, but I think this is naive, bad advice.

This person is living in front of OP's home, which means this homeless person could be watching OP's kids and family's comings and goings. I would not interact in any way. You have no idea what kind of mental and other problems this person has.

OP, please keep us posted. I agree with calling the support agency, but I, personally, would also call the police. I would want a complaint on file about this in the unfortunate event that things escalate.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What would you want if you were in that situation? Have you talked to them? Asked them what they need?

I don't see how you expect them to care about what you want if you don't care about what they want. If you're approaching it from and adversarial standpoint you're just using your position of power to prioritize your needs over theirs.

Sorry, but I think this is naive, bad advice.

This person is living in front of OP's home, which means this homeless person could be watching OP's kids and family's comings and goings. I would not interact in any way. You have no idea what kind of mental and other problems this person has.

OP, please keep us posted. I agree with calling the support agency, but I, personally, would also call the police. I would want a complaint on file about this in the unfortunate event that things escalate.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What would you want if you were in that situation? Have you talked to them? Asked them what they need?

I don't see how you expect them to care about what you want if you don't care about what they want. If you're approaching it from and adversarial standpoint you're just using your position of power to prioritize your needs over theirs.

Sorry, but I think this is naive, bad advice.

This person is living in front of OP's home, which means this homeless person could be watching OP's kids and family's comings and goings. I would not interact in any way. You have no idea what kind of mental and other problems this person has.

OP, please keep us posted. I agree with calling the support agency, but I, personally, would also call the police. I would want a complaint on file about this in the unfortunate event that things escalate.

Anonymous wrote:What would you want if you were in that situation? Have you talked to them? Asked them what they need?

I don't see how you expect them to care about what you want if you don't care about what they want. If you're approaching it from and adversarial standpoint you're just using your position of power to prioritize your needs over theirs.

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Anonymous wrote:It's illegal. Call the cops.

Section 22-1307 of the DC Code is the District’s Blocking Passage statute. This law gives MPD officers the authority to prevent crowding, obstructing, or incommoding of public spaces. According to this statute, which was effective June 11, 2013, it is unlawful for one or more persons to crowd, obstruct, or incommode “(A) the use of any street, avenue, alley, road, highway, or sidewalk; (B) the entrance of any public or private building or enclosure; (C) the use of or passage through any public building or public conveyance; or (D) the passage through or within any park or reservation.” MPD officers are required to issue a move along order instructing any person who violates the above statute to cease doing so prior to issuing a citation. The law does not require proof that the person engaging in the activity actually “breached the peace.” Duffee v. D.C., 93 A.3d 1273, 1275 (D.C. 2014)

Those laws are likely unconstitutional https://www.npr.org/2019/12/16/788435163/supreme-court-wont-hear-case-to-ticket-homeless-for-sleeping-in-public-spaces and probably won’t be enforced

The 9th Circuit has no jurisdiction over DC and MPD already has a policy framework in place for enforcement. So everything you've posted is irrelevant.
https://policecomplaints.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/office%20of%20police%20complaints/publication/attachments/Blocking%20Passage%20Report.FINAL_.pdf

This.plus all lawyers know the Ninth Circus is ridiculous and also the most frequently reversed Circuit.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's illegal. Call the cops.

Section 22-1307 of the DC Code is the District’s Blocking Passage statute. This law gives MPD officers the authority to prevent crowding, obstructing, or incommoding of public spaces. According to this statute, which was effective June 11, 2013, it is unlawful for one or more persons to crowd, obstruct, or incommode “(A) the use of any street, avenue, alley, road, highway, or sidewalk; (B) the entrance of any public or private building or enclosure; (C) the use of or passage through any public building or public conveyance; or (D) the passage through or within any park or reservation.” MPD officers are required to issue a move along order instructing any person who violates the above statute to cease doing so prior to issuing a citation. The law does not require proof that the person engaging in the activity actually “breached the peace.” Duffee v. D.C., 93 A.3d 1273, 1275 (D.C. 2014)

Congrats, you're part of the problem. Shipping him off to jail is a) counter productive and b) more expensive than housing.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank your local nimby for making housing unaffordable.

Would the Ward Three Vision shill please explain how building thousands more glass upscale flats in Upper NW at market rates is going to fix things for this person?

Anonymous wrote:Thank your local nimby for making housing unaffordable.

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Anonymous wrote:I would watch and move their things when they are gone. And call the police/behavior health/shelter emergency line constantly. I’m all for supporting people but not allowing a homeless encampment to be established by my fence. Because it will never go away. They can camp beneath an underpass or on a median - not on a residential corner.

You are not a good person.

naively allowing a homeless encampment to grow in front of your house is not being a good person. it’s being naive and hurting yourself and your family, and not helping anyone. it some cases it’s hurting people because it becomes a loci of drug dealing and crime.

No one is suggesting just leaving him be. The compassionate people are advocating calling non-profit or government services that can HELP him rather than stealing his stuff, spraying him with a hose (!!) or calling the cops on him.

There's a lot of space between naiveté and calling the cops.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would watch and move their things when they are gone. And call the police/behavior health/shelter emergency line constantly. I’m all for supporting people but not allowing a homeless encampment to be established by my fence. Because it will never go away. They can camp beneath an underpass or on a median - not on a residential corner.

You are not a good person.

naively allowing a homeless encampment to grow in front of your house is not being a good person. it’s being naive and hurting yourself and your family, and not helping anyone. it some cases it’s hurting people because it becomes a loci of drug dealing and crime.

No one is suggesting just leaving him be. The compassionate people are advocating calling non-profit or government services that can HELP him rather than stealing his stuff, spraying him with a hose (!!) or calling the cops on him.

There's a lot of space between naiveté and calling the cops.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would watch and move their things when they are gone. And call the police/behavior health/shelter emergency line constantly. I’m all for supporting people but not allowing a homeless encampment to be established by my fence. Because it will never go away. They can camp beneath an underpass or on a median - not on a residential corner.

You are not a good person.

naively allowing a homeless encampment to grow in front of your house is not being a good person. it’s being naive and hurting yourself and your family, and not helping anyone. it some cases it’s hurting people because it becomes a loci of drug dealing and crime.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would watch and move their things when they are gone. And call the police/behavior health/shelter emergency line constantly. I’m all for supporting people but not allowing a homeless encampment to be established by my fence. Because it will never go away. They can camp beneath an underpass or on a median - not on a residential corner.

Don't touch their stuff. That's not legal.

it’s not illegal to move trash/stuff people leave on sidewalks. also, I don’t care. point is you must demonstrate that this corner is not a friendly place to take over. they will find someplace else. if you’re naive and do nothing you’ll end up with an entire encampment in front of your house.

This is not true and is not how property law works. The only legal thing you can do if you remove their things is to take it to a police station to be claimed. However, it is better to not do that as you have no reasonable belief that the property has been abandoned/lost.

ok sure, put it in a bag and take it to a police station. nobody can leave junk on public sidewalks and expect it to remain there.