I don't share your husband's opinion about what is safe and what isn't, but obviously lots of people on this website do and since they are stuck inside they have plenty of time to post. We are eating indoors, playing indoors and doing pretty much everything that we did before the pandemic right now.

Also with community spread so low and the risk to children being super low in general my thoughts are that the FDA won't approve the vaccines for kids younger than 12 for a long time, if ever. It just doesn't make sense to vaccinate kids, especially boys, if there is a 1 in 250,000 risk of heart issues due to the vaccines and a 1 in 5,000,000 risk of them getting COVID and then having a serious reaction to it. If the community spread were a lot lot higher, it might make sense, but right now there are just a handful of cases a day in the entire DC area.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here - I never mentioned the grocery store...don't know how that came about. We started getting our groceries delivered and will never stop. I look back at when we had our first baby and how much resistance DH gave then to going out. So I think COVID is just an excuse for him to stay home. Maybe this is a DH problem...

I'd like to address the vaccine. The baby won't be able to get it for another 6+ months when she is two. Also, it's like a million degrees outside and we don't take well to the heat, I'd rather eat inside.

I am super liberal and have been eating inside for months. You are more likely to get food poisoning than COVID at this point. Do not listen to the COVID crazies. They have severe anxiety disorders and cannot assess risk rationally.

And just to say it again--even with a seat belt/the best carseat you can buy, your kid is MUCH more likely to die in a car accident than from COVID. Also to drown. So, stay home if you are worried about car accidents or drowning so much so that you can't leave the house. COVID is like a boogeyman for loonies at this stage in the game.

OP here - my husband will go out to eat (inside) with just me. He was pissed when I told him I took our 4 year old to eat inside one time...at 4pm with no one else there.

I'm not asking what people do. I know my limits, I guess he knows his. We are on very different spectrums. I have little fear and if my kids catch covid (which is so so so unlikely) then they will very likely be OK. My husband still has a lot of fear. He calls me an anti-masker. I still make my 4 year old wear a mask inside and I do when I'm with her. I am frustrated because I accommodated his wants before we were vaccinated and cases were super low. If not now, then when?

Your kids are not vaccinated yet, why would you want to take the chance? Especially when a vaccine for them is probably just months away. Why in the world is taking small children out to eat so important? You really sound like a troll.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here - I never mentioned the grocery store...don't know how that came about. We started getting our groceries delivered and will never stop. I look back at when we had our first baby and how much resistance DH gave then to going out. So I think COVID is just an excuse for him to stay home. Maybe this is a DH problem...

I'd like to address the vaccine. The baby won't be able to get it for another 6+ months when she is two. Also, it's like a million degrees outside and we don't take well to the heat, I'd rather eat inside.

I am super liberal and have been eating inside for months. You are more likely to get food poisoning than COVID at this point. Do not listen to the COVID crazies. They have severe anxiety disorders and cannot assess risk rationally.

And just to say it again--even with a seat belt/the best carseat you can buy, your kid is MUCH more likely to die in a car accident than from COVID. Also to drown. So, stay home if you are worried about car accidents or drowning so much so that you can't leave the house. COVID is like a boogeyman for loonies at this stage in the game.

OP here - my husband will go out to eat (inside) with just me. He was pissed when I told him I took our 4 year old to eat inside one time...at 4pm with no one else there.

I'm not asking what people do. I know my limits, I guess he knows his. We are on very different spectrums. I have little fear and if my kids catch covid (which is so so so unlikely) then they will very likely be OK. My husband still has a lot of fear. He calls me an anti-masker. I still make my 4 year old wear a mask inside and I do when I'm with her. I am frustrated because I accommodated his wants before we were vaccinated and cases were super low. If not now, then when?

I’m sorry. He sounds ridiculous and exhausting.

I have a friend married to someone like your DH. We hike a lot and I asked her to hike with me in the fall, offered to wear masks even outside. He told her no. No risk is better than low risk. I don’t k is how she is married to him to be honest.

Anonymous wrote:I think some people got used to the hermit lifestyle during COVID and are having trouble coming back out into the world…

This.

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Anonymous wrote:I think some people got used to the hermit lifestyle during COVID and are having trouble coming back out into the world…

I socialize with other families (indoors and out), do normal stuff w/out my kids, and do mostly outdoor stuff w/kids (or with friends/family, just not random crowds). I'm really just not sure why eating in restaurants with kids is so important to society or my life. If you want to take your kids, great. But it isn't weird to reprioritize it.

Oh I agree with you and do the same sort of prioritization, but it sounded like OP’s DH wouldn’t be okay with family gatherings (with vaccinated adults) either. And there are plenty of people who are still enjoying their COVID bubble and find any excuse not to come out. Delta variant is a godsend for them

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Anonymous wrote:OP here - I never mentioned the grocery store...don't know how that came about. We started getting our groceries delivered and will never stop. I look back at when we had our first baby and how much resistance DH gave then to going out. So I think COVID is just an excuse for him to stay home. Maybe this is a DH problem...

I'd like to address the vaccine. The baby won't be able to get it for another 6+ months when she is two. Also, it's like a million degrees outside and we don't take well to the heat, I'd rather eat inside.

I am super liberal and have been eating inside for months. You are more likely to get food poisoning than COVID at this point. Do not listen to the COVID crazies. They have severe anxiety disorders and cannot assess risk rationally.

And just to say it again--even with a seat belt/the best carseat you can buy, your kid is MUCH more likely to die in a car accident than from COVID. Also to drown. So, stay home if you are worried about car accidents or drowning so much so that you can't leave the house. COVID is like a boogeyman for loonies at this stage in the game.

OP here - my husband will go out to eat (inside) with just me. He was pissed when I told him I took our 4 year old to eat inside one time...at 4pm with no one else there.

I'm not asking what people do. I know my limits, I guess he knows his. We are on very different spectrums. I have little fear and if my kids catch covid (which is so so so unlikely) then they will very likely be OK. My husband still has a lot of fear. He calls me an anti-masker. I still make my 4 year old wear a mask inside and I do when I'm with her. I am frustrated because I accommodated his wants before we were vaccinated and cases were super low. If not now, then when?

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Anonymous wrote:There is no way I would take a baby or toddler to eat indoors or go to an indoor pool right now.

Outdoor pool? Yes.
Get takeout or eat outdoors? Yes

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The illness in kids is very alarming. Children in Brazil are dying at a very high rate due to the Delta mutant. OP, do you not care for your kids? Or is there something else going on?

Except there's no community spread here, unlike Brazil, so that's an absurd comparison.

Anonymous wrote:I’m pretty lenient but am not doing things you describe.
My kids played spring sports, are in camp, we have had people over for dinner and play dates.

I’m still not eating indoors with my little kids - why not eat outside?
I am not taking my kids into stores - are errands with a toddler and preschooler even enjoyable?

Why do you need to go to an outdoor pool when there are splash pads and outdoor pools?

None of those things are for the kids. They are for you. Why don’t you focus on what they would enjoy and find a safe way to do it?

Because OP is a troll.

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Anonymous wrote:Man, it was great visiting family in Texas a couple of weeks ago. You realize what an anomaly this area is in regards to masking when it's unnecessary.

No death stares for being maskless? Sounds heavenly.

Please go and stay there.

Anonymous wrote:There is no way I would take a baby or toddler to eat indoors or go to an indoor pool right now.

Outdoor pool? Yes.
Get takeout or eat outdoors? Yes

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The illness in kids is very alarming. Children in Brazil are dying at a very high rate due to the Delta mutant. OP, do you not care for your kids? Or is there something else going on?

Anonymous wrote:OP here - I never mentioned the grocery store...don't know how that came about. We started getting our groceries delivered and will never stop. I look back at when we had our first baby and how much resistance DH gave then to going out. So I think COVID is just an excuse for him to stay home. Maybe this is a DH problem...

I'd like to address the vaccine. The baby won't be able to get it for another 6+ months when she is two. Also, it's like a million degrees outside and we don't take well to the heat, I'd rather eat inside.

So get meals to go and eat inside at home. Is it worth endangering your babies health to eat inside?
I would not think so, but it's up to you.

Anonymous wrote:Man, it was great visiting family in Texas a couple of weeks ago. You realize what an anomaly this area is in regards to masking when it's unnecessary.

No death stares for being maskless? Sounds heavenly.

What do you want us to say, OP? Your husband is very cautious and anxious about the kids getting covid yet he compromises to let your your older child go to daycare, goes out to dinner with you, etc. but he doesn’t want you to take the baby to an indoor restaurant. So don’t. It’s not like the baby would love eating indoors with you so it’s not a big deal to let it go.

I don't think your husbands POV sounds unreasonable. It's certainly on the more cautious side of COVID now, but he's not saying you "can't do anything with the kids"

There are about a zillion options in the summer around here that would be completely covid safe. Eating inside a restaurant is one of the riskier things to do when it comes to covid, and clearly not essential in any manner, it seems like a reasonable thing to skip until DH is a little more comfortable or the 2+ vaccine is available and your kid is old enough.