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Anonymous wrote:The funny thing is that we will never know how many people actually get the new variant since the CDC is only counting positives for vaccinated individuals if they die or are hospitalized, also a “positive” for a vaccinated individual is recorded after 28 cycles of the PCR test, according to the CDC direction which is quite low. The CDC is purposely trying to limit the data before we even get it. Why?

Because the tests can pick up dead virus in vaccinated individuals, that has absolutely no effect on them, nor is enough to be transmissible.

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If you are taking immune suppressors, you were supposed to talk to your doctor about stopping them before taking the vax. That's what my family member with Crohn's did and yes, you stop the immune suppressors.

That's great that your family member's Crohn's was mild enough that just stopping the meds was an option. My kid stopped his immunosuppressants and ended up spending 4 months in PICU, and never got off oxygen afterwards. People on chemo, which suppresses the immune system, can die from stopping, as can people with transplants.

But since your cousin with Crohn's did it . . . .

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If you are taking immune suppressors, you were supposed to talk to your doctor about stopping them before taking the vax. That's what my family member with Crohn's did and yes, you stop the immune suppressors.

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Anonymous wrote:What am I missing? If you are vaccinated, who cares? Not sure on all of them, but the Pfizer vaccine has good effectiveness against delta

Different poster. Well, the way I see it, as a glass half-full cautious parent, the delta variant is much more contagious and somewhat more severe than what was circulating mid-2020, so being vaccinated now brings the risk level back to where it was sans vacc' circa June 2020.

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Anonymous wrote:What am I missing? If you are vaccinated, who cares? Not sure on all of them, but the Pfizer vaccine has good effectiveness against delta

Different poster. Well, the way I see it, as a glass half-full cautious parent, the delta variant is much more contagious and somewhat more severe than what was circulating mid-2020, so being vaccinated now brings the risk level back to where it was sans vacc' circa June 2020.

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Anonymous wrote:The funny thing is that we will never know how many people actually get the new variant since the CDC is only counting positives for vaccinated individuals if they die or are hospitalized, also a “positive” for a vaccinated individual is recorded after 28 cycles of the PCR test, according to the CDC direction which is quite low. The CDC is purposely trying to limit the data before we even get it. Why?

Because the tests can pick up dead virus in vaccinated individuals, that has absolutely no effect on them, nor is enough to be transmissible.

But what about people who are sick, but just not sick enough to be hospitalized? We know from the past 18 months, that you can be really sick with Covid and not be deemed worthy of a hospital bed. I know at least 12 previously healthy people who were sick enough that they could not walk from bed to sofa but were sent home from the hospital.

Sounds like a bout with the flu.

Does the flu cause your oxygen levels to drop to 88 percent? I was in the ER three times for supplemental oxygen. Does the flu cause permanent heart and lung damage? COVID can. I had fever for 13 long days. Never heard of the flu causing two weeks of high fever. Does it take three months to recover from the flu. It took me almost that long to recover from COVID.

My case was considered “mild”. I am 52 years old. No other medical conditions. A marathon runner. Yoga teacher. Personal trainer. I’m in fantastic shape. COVID was nothing like the flu for me.

This just scares me so much. I'm immunocompromised and don't show any antibodies months after my second vaccine. Delta and whatever variants are to follow are concerning.

If you are taking immune suppressors, you were supposed to talk to your doctor about stopping them before taking the vax. That's what my family member with Crohn's did and yes, you stop the immune suppressors.

Also if you don't have antibodies at all, even months later, maybe you should talk about it now!

And if you are at a death-risk of Covid because of immune issues, you were of the flu before so you shouldn't have been leaving your house anyway.

I don't think Covid should give you sudden agoraphobia now. The cases are as low as they are ever going to be. Covid is here to stay. Just like flu, we knew there would be variants. Maybe you should see a therapist.

Anonymous wrote:What am I missing? If you are vaccinated, who cares? Not sure on all of them, but the Pfizer vaccine has good effectiveness against delta

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly I am not worried. Hospitalizations and deaths are extremely low in the Uk. It is not going to be bad here.

But to answer your question, it is already hitting Missouri and Colorado. Case numbers will go up everywhere in the next month.

Wrong

Those RED states are going to be filled with the variant. HAHAHAHAHA zero empathy. Yep that's right zero.

Disturbingly unkind. And I’m a very liberal Dem. You are the reason this great country remains so broken. These are human beings you are talking about. People who only know what they live. Instead of wishing them dead, maybe help show them a better way?

I also find this comment abhorrent, but we’ve been trying to show some of these states a better way since Reconstruction. They are not interested.

So death to all these people, then.

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Anonymous wrote:The funny thing is that we will never know how many people actually get the new variant since the CDC is only counting positives for vaccinated individuals if they die or are hospitalized, also a “positive” for a vaccinated individual is recorded after 28 cycles of the PCR test, according to the CDC direction which is quite low. The CDC is purposely trying to limit the data before we even get it. Why?

Because the tests can pick up dead virus in vaccinated individuals, that has absolutely no effect on them, nor is enough to be transmissible.

But what about people who are sick, but just not sick enough to be hospitalized? We know from the past 18 months, that you can be really sick with Covid and not be deemed worthy of a hospital bed. I know at least 12 previously healthy people who were sick enough that they could not walk from bed to sofa but were sent home from the hospital.

Sounds like a bout with the flu.

Does the flu cause your oxygen levels to drop to 88 percent? I was in the ER three times for supplemental oxygen. Does the flu cause permanent heart and lung damage? COVID can. I had fever for 13 long days. Never heard of the flu causing two weeks of high fever. Does it take three months to recover from the flu. It took me almost that long to recover from COVID.

My case was considered “mild”. I am 52 years old. No other medical conditions. A marathon runner. Yoga teacher. Personal trainer. I’m in fantastic shape. COVID was nothing like the flu for me.

And for every one of you stories there are stories of people with mild cases.

Different poster. Have you been asleep since March 2020? Yes, a fraction (much larger if delta) of those exposed will be infected. A fraction of those infected will have symptoms. A small fraction of those with symptoms will need hospitalization. Some will die. Some with or without symptoms during the initial infection will experience an odd array of symptoms for 6+ months. So totally, for every one horrendous mild case, there are several stories of mild mild cases. This s**t still ain't the flu, bro.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly I am not worried. Hospitalizations and deaths are extremely low in the Uk. It is not going to be bad here.

But to answer your question, it is already hitting Missouri and Colorado. Case numbers will go up everywhere in the next month.

Wrong

Those RED states are going to be filled with the variant. HAHAHAHAHA zero empathy. Yep that's right zero.

Disturbingly unkind. And I’m a very liberal Dem. You are the reason this great country remains so broken. These are human beings you are talking about. People who only know what they live. Instead of wishing them dead, maybe help show them a better way?

I also find this comment abhorrent, but we’ve been trying to show some of these states a better way since Reconstruction. They are not interested.

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Anonymous wrote:The funny thing is that we will never know how many people actually get the new variant since the CDC is only counting positives for vaccinated individuals if they die or are hospitalized, also a “positive” for a vaccinated individual is recorded after 28 cycles of the PCR test, according to the CDC direction which is quite low. The CDC is purposely trying to limit the data before we even get it. Why?

Because the tests can pick up dead virus in vaccinated individuals, that has absolutely no effect on them, nor is enough to be transmissible.

But what about people who are sick, but just not sick enough to be hospitalized? We know from the past 18 months, that you can be really sick with Covid and not be deemed worthy of a hospital bed. I know at least 12 previously healthy people who were sick enough that they could not walk from bed to sofa but were sent home from the hospital.

Sounds like a bout with the flu.

Does the flu cause your oxygen levels to drop to 88 percent? I was in the ER three times for supplemental oxygen. Does the flu cause permanent heart and lung damage? COVID can. I had fever for 13 long days. Never heard of the flu causing two weeks of high fever. Does it take three months to recover from the flu. It took me almost that long to recover from COVID.

My case was considered “mild”. I am 52 years old. No other medical conditions. A marathon runner. Yoga teacher. Personal trainer. I’m in fantastic shape. COVID was nothing like the flu for me.

This just scares me so much. I'm immunocompromised and don't show any antibodies months after my second vaccine. Delta and whatever variants are to follow are concerning.

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Anonymous wrote:The funny thing is that we will never know how many people actually get the new variant since the CDC is only counting positives for vaccinated individuals if they die or are hospitalized, also a “positive” for a vaccinated individual is recorded after 28 cycles of the PCR test, according to the CDC direction which is quite low. The CDC is purposely trying to limit the data before we even get it. Why?

Because the tests can pick up dead virus in vaccinated individuals, that has absolutely no effect on them, nor is enough to be transmissible.

But what about people who are sick, but just not sick enough to be hospitalized? We know from the past 18 months, that you can be really sick with Covid and not be deemed worthy of a hospital bed. I know at least 12 previously healthy people who were sick enough that they could not walk from bed to sofa but were sent home from the hospital.

Sounds like a bout with the flu.

Does the flu cause your oxygen levels to drop to 88 percent? I was in the ER three times for supplemental oxygen. Does the flu cause permanent heart and lung damage? COVID can. I had fever for 13 long days. Never heard of the flu causing two weeks of high fever. Does it take three months to recover from the flu. It took me almost that long to recover from COVID.

My case was considered “mild”. I am 52 years old. No other medical conditions. A marathon runner. Yoga teacher. Personal trainer. I’m in fantastic shape. COVID was nothing like the flu for me.