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Anonymous wrote:The primary election will be on June 28, 2022. Maybe you could hold on to this post for another few months, at least?

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I also don’t understand the angry tone.

My guess is that this post is a reaction to the weirdos on Twitter that are basically extremists under most definitions that post all sorts of crazy stuff about Elrich.

Some of the sole focused YIMBY people are indeed nuts on twitter.

That doesnt mean Elrich doesnt suck though. Because he does.

David Blair, obviously.

Elrich couldn't find his way out of a paper bag - total disaster.

YIMBY people and GGW are dominating SM, and are contributing to the developers who own the county. They donate to Council and get the tax breaks. Meanwhile infrastructure suffers.

Blair is just going to create more giveaways for developers.

What we need is someone to focus on economics: lets get some big businesses to land here, increase the tax base of high income, white collar workers, so the county has the funds for the infrastructure we need.

Sorry King Casey, but your plan of building more and more condos on the top, retail on the bottom doesn't do that. It brings low income jobs, and more people utilizing services that are already poor. It also doesn't bring enough long term money to the county. The sooner the Council and Planning Board figure this out, the better.

It will take a massive change in personnel for that to happen, and all I see is more of the same running for office.

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Anonymous wrote:OP is dumb.

MoCo completely BUNGLED the COVID vaccine roll out. So, soooooooooooo many MoCo residents got the vaccine outside of MoCo instead DUE TO THE STATE OF MD AND HOGAN, NOT ERLICH AND MOCO.

You have that completely backwards. Hogan decided the distribution of the vaccines early on, sending them disproportionately to his supporters in Ocean City. Elrich lobbied for a mass vax site in Gaithersburg which Hogan begrudgingly allowed, way too late.

Nope. Both myself and my wife got the vaccines at MD mass vax sites outside of MoCo, because of the deplorable roll out that MoCo did. Typical liberal run MoCo....so, soooooo many layers of stupidity and bureaucracy. I got my vax in PG at Six Flag. Wife got hers at the mass vax site in Hagerstown. Well worth the drives and only took 5 minutes every time. We didn't even get the notice that it was our turn for getting the fax in MoCo until many, many weeks later. MoCo was a disaster for rolling out the fax. Thank you State of MD and the mass vax sites. Way better.

By definition the county is not responsible for the “state run” mass vax sites. you may want to ask why the state government why MoCo didn’t get a state run mass vax site until very late.

Probably so that people in other counties had a fighting chance to get a shot when the supply was limited, as people in Montgomery County vacuumed up appointments all over the state. MoCO led the state in people vaccinated even before a mass vax site was established in MoCo. The state knew that people from MoCo could and would travel to get vaccinated. For its part, Montgomery County spent too much time wringing its hands about who was getting shots instead of how many vaccines were getting administered. At the height of scarcity, the county had thousands of doses in its freezers.

Do you realize that the state also set the rules about who was eligible for shots? Any excess shots that the county may have had (I’m not even sure if that’s true) would have been restricted on who they could be administered to. There were national stories about shots not being administered because of too strict rules. Those rules were set by the state of Maryland and not Montgomery County.

The county's rules were consistently more restrictive than the state's until the state told them they couldn't have more restrictive rules. So you're just wrong about that. I was eligible to be vaccinated at a state site well before I was eligible to be vaccinated at a county site.

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Anonymous wrote:The people who seem to think Elrich (or Gayles, or the Council) saved them from COVID make no sense to me. Frankly, its the people around here's risk tolerance and behaviors that helped. Heck, there hasn't been a single case of COVID in Bethesda in three weeks, positivity rate of 0, virtually every single person over 12 vaccinated, and still nearly everyone is wearing a mask in stores. People around here did, in general, way less indoor gatherings than most during the pandemic (and a good chunk of the country just went about life as normal....). Those are the things that got us where we are, not because you didn't watch your kids soccer game outdoors in a mask, or because your kid didn't go to school for over a year.

On the other hand, Elrich and Co. supported keeping MCPS shut for way way too long, upheld ridiculous restrictions on outdoor masked youth sports and spectator limits in massive open air spaces with masked spectators, went nuts and accused Hogan of opening too early and begged him to back off (they were wrong and the numbers have plummeted), complained and blamed Hogan for everything about vaccine rollout with misleading and often inaccurate numbers, kept public libraries shut, and supported some of the most mind-boggling inconsistent COVID restrictions that favored certain businesses or industries over others with no connection to real data and science.

"Not dying" from COVID is only part of the equation. A real leader does the tough risk based assessment. There's a lot more at stake with education, mental health, physical health, financial health and protecting local business, and taking accountability and ownership as a leader.

I would never vote for him again. Big mistake last time. Out of touch with certain realities of life or how to make the tough decisions. The pandemic exposed the downsides of a Takoma Park liberal who really only knows how to focus on social justice, equity and environmental issues (that I happen to agree with him on, just that's its only part of being a leader) and not actually manage a 1.1 million person county with difficult decisions and so much at stake.

This. You just need to look at neighboring counties, with similar risks and populations to compare.

MoCo started opening libraries a few weeks ago. Fairfax had them open for 2 months before.

MCPS was unable to adjust the schedule to allow more kids to go in-person (or let the in-person go for more days per week) this Spring. FCPS was able to pull it off.

Gayles overruled private school reopening last fall without ever reviewing their safety plans. Luckily Hogan overruled Gayles on that one.

Elrich is a nice guy as a person (I've met him many times), but a terrible manager.

I campaigned for Elrich last time. Will be voting for Blair.

Same.

Anonymous wrote:I'm voting for Marc Elrich for re-election in 2022, and I'd probably even vote for him in 2026 if he ran. I think he's doing a great job. I enjoyed not dying of COVID, and not giving away free money (subsidy and tax break) to wealthy real estate Oligarchs.

If this triggers you, please, tell me more about why you hate Unions and love Developers and Cops.

Doesn't make sense if you are actually paying attention to police reform.

UNIONS shield bad cops through their heavy-handed bargaining agreements. They skirt accountability and impede transparency to the public.

The agreement that Elrich has signed off on now, a few times, includes stuff like this:

1) Disciplinary actions are to be removed from Police Department files after five years, reprimands are to be
removed after one year, and performance evaluations are to be removed after five years (51C3).

2) FOP members who review an application for a vacant position may view the candidate’s performance
evaluations, letters of commendation, awards and training documents, but may not access other personnel
file documents (51B7g). (i.e., they can't see any disciplinary actions when evaluating a candidate for promotion/transfer).

3) The County will notify the FOP of all external requests for MVS (in car camera/dash cam) recordings, including subpoenas and
summonses, and will solicit the FOP’s opinion before responding to the request. If the County determines
that the request cannot be denied per the MPIA, the County will allow the FOP to file a reverse MPIA action
and will not grant the original MPIA request until a court orders the recording to be disclosed (66C13).

4) The County will deny all Maryland Public Information Act (MPIA) requests for stored AVL/PRL (GPS locator) data on the
movements and location of vehicles unless a court establishes that AVL/PRL data is subject to the MPIA.
County will defend its denials of MPIA requests for stored AVL/PRL data in trial courts and will continue to
defend these denials until a court establishes that AVL/PRL data is not confidential information (65D).

5) The County will review all external requests for BWCS recordings, including subpoenas and summonses, for
compliance with applicable standards, including those imposed by the CBA. If the FOP objects to release of
any portion of the recording, the FOP must promptly notify the County of its intent to file a reverse MPIA
claim (72E3).

6) Employees must not be impaired by, or the under influence of, alcohol while on duty (Appendix A, 3.1).
• “Impaired” is defined as a blood alcohol concentration (BAC) of .05%; “Under influence” is defined as BAC
of .10% (Appendix A, 3.1). (which means they can have some alcohol in their system. What happens if they engage in a use of force incident after a heavy night
of drinking? They are lawfully at work with only a 0.04 BAC, but is that OK with the public when the officer beats the crap out of someone?)





https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OLO/Resources/Files/2021_Reports/OLOReport2021-1.pdf

David Blair for me. Something has got to be done about the business environment in the County, and after 12 years each, it's clear neither Elrich nor Reimer can/wants to. Only a damn fool would open or maintain a business in MoCo right now, and it's killing us.

Elrich is completely incompetent and not suitable to lead. MOCO is the absolute worst place to have and grow a small business. I moved my office to VA right before COVID and will move out of the County in 2 years when my youngest has gone to college. N won’t end up mattering to me, but this County can not afford another anti-biz extremist., plain and simple. Moderates, please…

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is dumb.

MoCo completely BUNGLED the COVID vaccine roll out. So, soooooooooooo many MoCo residents got the vaccine outside of MoCo instead DUE TO THE STATE OF MD AND HOGAN, NOT ERLICH AND MOCO.

You have that completely backwards. Hogan decided the distribution of the vaccines early on, sending them disproportionately to his supporters in Ocean City. Elrich lobbied for a mass vax site in Gaithersburg which Hogan begrudgingly allowed, way too late.

Nope. Both myself and my wife got the vaccines at MD mass vax sites outside of MoCo, because of the deplorable roll out that MoCo did. Typical liberal run MoCo....so, soooooo many layers of stupidity and bureaucracy. I got my vax in PG at Six Flag. Wife got hers at the mass vax site in Hagerstown. Well worth the drives and only took 5 minutes every time. We didn't even get the notice that it was our turn for getting the fax in MoCo until many, many weeks later. MoCo was a disaster for rolling out the fax. Thank you State of MD and the mass vax sites. Way better.

By definition the county is not responsible for the “state run” mass vax sites. you may want to ask why the state government why MoCo didn’t get a state run mass vax site until very late.

Probably so that people in other counties had a fighting chance to get a shot when the supply was limited, as people in Montgomery County vacuumed up appointments all over the state. MoCO led the state in people vaccinated even before a mass vax site was established in MoCo. The state knew that people from MoCo could and would travel to get vaccinated. For its part, Montgomery County spent too much time wringing its hands about who was getting shots instead of how many vaccines were getting administered. At the height of scarcity, the county had thousands of doses in its freezers.

Do you realize that the state also set the rules about who was eligible for shots? Any excess shots that the county may have had (I’m not even sure if that’s true) would have been restricted on who they could be administered to. There were national stories about shots not being administered because of too strict rules. Those rules were set by the state of Maryland and not Montgomery County.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is dumb.

MoCo completely BUNGLED the COVID vaccine roll out. So, soooooooooooo many MoCo residents got the vaccine outside of MoCo instead DUE TO THE STATE OF MD AND HOGAN, NOT ERLICH AND MOCO.

You have that completely backwards. Hogan decided the distribution of the vaccines early on, sending them disproportionately to his supporters in Ocean City. Elrich lobbied for a mass vax site in Gaithersburg which Hogan begrudgingly allowed, way too late.

Nope. Both myself and my wife got the vaccines at MD mass vax sites outside of MoCo, because of the deplorable roll out that MoCo did. Typical liberal run MoCo....so, soooooo many layers of stupidity and bureaucracy. I got my vax in PG at Six Flag. Wife got hers at the mass vax site in Hagerstown. Well worth the drives and only took 5 minutes every time. We didn't even get the notice that it was our turn for getting the fax in MoCo until many, many weeks later. MoCo was a disaster for rolling out the fax. Thank you State of MD and the mass vax sites. Way better.

By definition the county is not responsible for the “state run” mass vax sites. you may want to ask why the state government why MoCo didn’t get a state run mass vax site until very late.

Probably so that people in other counties had a fighting chance to get a shot when the supply was limited, as people in Montgomery County vacuumed up appointments all over the state. MoCO led the state in people vaccinated even before a mass vax site was established in MoCo. The state knew that people from MoCo could and would travel to get vaccinated. For its part, Montgomery County spent too much time wringing its hands about who was getting shots instead of how many vaccines were getting administered. At the height of scarcity, the county had thousands of doses in its freezers.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is dumb.

MoCo completely BUNGLED the COVID vaccine roll out. So, soooooooooooo many MoCo residents got the vaccine outside of MoCo instead DUE TO THE STATE OF MD AND HOGAN, NOT ERLICH AND MOCO.

You have that completely backwards. Hogan decided the distribution of the vaccines early on, sending them disproportionately to his supporters in Ocean City. Elrich lobbied for a mass vax site in Gaithersburg which Hogan begrudgingly allowed, way too late.

Nope. Both myself and my wife got the vaccines at MD mass vax sites outside of MoCo, because of the deplorable roll out that MoCo did. Typical liberal run MoCo....so, soooooo many layers of stupidity and bureaucracy. I got my vax in PG at Six Flag. Wife got hers at the mass vax site in Hagerstown. Well worth the drives and only took 5 minutes every time. We didn't even get the notice that it was our turn for getting the fax in MoCo until many, many weeks later. MoCo was a disaster for rolling out the fax. Thank you State of MD and the mass vax sites. Way better.

By definition the county is not responsible for the “state run” mass vax sites. you may want to ask why the state government why MoCo didn’t get a state run mass vax site until very late.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is dumb.

MoCo completely BUNGLED the COVID vaccine roll out. So, soooooooooooo many MoCo residents got the vaccine outside of MoCo instead DUE TO THE STATE OF MD AND HOGAN, NOT ERLICH AND MOCO.

You have that completely backwards. Hogan decided the distribution of the vaccines early on, sending them disproportionately to his supporters in Ocean City. Elrich lobbied for a mass vax site in Gaithersburg which Hogan begrudgingly allowed, way too late.

Nope. Both myself and my wife got the vaccines at MD mass vax sites outside of MoCo, because of the deplorable roll out that MoCo did. Typical liberal run MoCo....so, soooooo many layers of stupidity and bureaucracy. I got my vax in PG at Six Flag. Wife got hers at the mass vax site in Hagerstown. Well worth the drives and only took 5 minutes every time. We didn't even get the notice that it was our turn for getting the fax in MoCo until many, many weeks later. MoCo was a disaster for rolling out the fax. Thank you State of MD and the mass vax sites. Way better.

Anonymous wrote:OP is dumb.

MoCo completely BUNGLED the COVID vaccine roll out. So, soooooooooooo many MoCo residents got the vaccine outside of MoCo instead DUE TO THE STATE OF MD AND HOGAN, NOT ERLICH AND MOCO.

You have that completely backwards. Hogan decided the distribution of the vaccines early on, sending them disproportionately to his supporters in Ocean City. Elrich lobbied for a mass vax site in Gaithersburg which Hogan begrudgingly allowed, way too late.

OP is dumb.

MoCo completely BUNGLED the COVID vaccine roll out. So, soooooooooooo many MoCo residents got the vaccine outside of MoCo instead DUE TO THE STATE OF MD AND HOGAN, NOT ERLICH AND MOCO.

Erlich is an unmitigated disaster, obstructionist, socialist, and terrible leader who is killing economic growth in the county. Stop giving credit where it isn't due. Stop supporting a python who is strangling our economy.

Anonymous wrote:I'm voting for Marc Elrich for re-election in 2022, and I'd probably even vote for him in 2026 if he ran. I think he's doing a great job. I enjoyed not dying of COVID, and not giving away free money (subsidy and tax break) to wealthy real estate Oligarchs.

If this triggers you, please, tell me more about why you hate Unions and love Developers and Cops.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The people who seem to think Elrich (or Gayles, or the Council) saved them from COVID make no sense to me. Frankly, its the people around here's risk tolerance and behaviors that helped. Heck, there hasn't been a single case of COVID in Bethesda in three weeks, positivity rate of 0, virtually every single person over 12 vaccinated, and still nearly everyone is wearing a mask in stores. People around here did, in general, way less indoor gatherings than most during the pandemic (and a good chunk of the country just went about life as normal....). Those are the things that got us where we are, not because you didn't watch your kids soccer game outdoors in a mask, or because your kid didn't go to school for over a year.

On the other hand, Elrich and Co. supported keeping MCPS shut for way way too long, upheld ridiculous restrictions on outdoor masked youth sports and spectator limits in massive open air spaces with masked spectators, went nuts and accused Hogan of opening too early and begged him to back off (they were wrong and the numbers have plummeted), complained and blamed Hogan for everything about vaccine rollout with misleading and often inaccurate numbers, kept public libraries shut, and supported some of the most mind-boggling inconsistent COVID restrictions that favored certain businesses or industries over others with no connection to real data and science.

"Not dying" from COVID is only part of the equation. A real leader does the tough risk based assessment. There's a lot more at stake with education, mental health, physical health, financial health and protecting local business, and taking accountability and ownership as a leader.

I would never vote for him again. Big mistake last time. Out of touch with certain realities of life or how to make the tough decisions. The pandemic exposed the downsides of a Takoma Park liberal who really only knows how to focus on social justice, equity and environmental issues (that I happen to agree with him on, just that's its only part of being a leader) and not actually manage a 1.1 million person county with difficult decisions and so much at stake.

This. You just need to look at neighboring counties, with similar risks and populations to compare.

MoCo started opening libraries a few weeks ago. Fairfax had them open for 2 months before.

MCPS was unable to adjust the schedule to allow more kids to go in-person (or let the in-person go for more days per week) this Spring. FCPS was able to pull it off.

Gayles overruled private school reopening last fall without ever reviewing their safety plans. Luckily Hogan overruled Gayles on that one.

Elrich is a nice guy as a person (I've met him many times), but a terrible manager.

I campaigned for Elrich last time. Will be voting for Blair.

I donated to Elrich and I’m on the fence. Probably the deciding factor for me will be how poorly behaved the anti-Elrich Riemer bros are. They may piss me off enough to vote for him again just to spite them.

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You mean the guys who are pathologically fixated on zoning policy and think that everyone who disagrees with them is a racist NIMBY?

Yeah I was also on the fence between Elrich (who is fine, whatever) and Blair (new blood would be nice) but now I’m leaning Elrich because these guys are so annoying.

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Anonymous wrote:The people who seem to think Elrich (or Gayles, or the Council) saved them from COVID make no sense to me. Frankly, its the people around here's risk tolerance and behaviors that helped. Heck, there hasn't been a single case of COVID in Bethesda in three weeks, positivity rate of 0, virtually every single person over 12 vaccinated, and still nearly everyone is wearing a mask in stores. People around here did, in general, way less indoor gatherings than most during the pandemic (and a good chunk of the country just went about life as normal....). Those are the things that got us where we are, not because you didn't watch your kids soccer game outdoors in a mask, or because your kid didn't go to school for over a year.

On the other hand, Elrich and Co. supported keeping MCPS shut for way way too long, upheld ridiculous restrictions on outdoor masked youth sports and spectator limits in massive open air spaces with masked spectators, went nuts and accused Hogan of opening too early and begged him to back off (they were wrong and the numbers have plummeted), complained and blamed Hogan for everything about vaccine rollout with misleading and often inaccurate numbers, kept public libraries shut, and supported some of the most mind-boggling inconsistent COVID restrictions that favored certain businesses or industries over others with no connection to real data and science.

"Not dying" from COVID is only part of the equation. A real leader does the tough risk based assessment. There's a lot more at stake with education, mental health, physical health, financial health and protecting local business, and taking accountability and ownership as a leader.

I would never vote for him again. Big mistake last time. Out of touch with certain realities of life or how to make the tough decisions. The pandemic exposed the downsides of a Takoma Park liberal who really only knows how to focus on social justice, equity and environmental issues (that I happen to agree with him on, just that's its only part of being a leader) and not actually manage a 1.1 million person county with difficult decisions and so much at stake.

This. You just need to look at neighboring counties, with similar risks and populations to compare.

MoCo started opening libraries a few weeks ago. Fairfax had them open for 2 months before.

MCPS was unable to adjust the schedule to allow more kids to go in-person (or let the in-person go for more days per week) this Spring. FCPS was able to pull it off.

Gayles overruled private school reopening last fall without ever reviewing their safety plans. Luckily Hogan overruled Gayles on that one.

Elrich is a nice guy as a person (I've met him many times), but a terrible manager.

I campaigned for Elrich last time. Will be voting for Blair.

I donated to Elrich and I’m on the fence. Probably the deciding factor for me will be how poorly behaved the anti-Elrich Riemer bros are. They may piss me off enough to vote for him again just to spite them.