Anonymous
Post 06/12/2021 09:13     Subject: Re:How is this fair?
Anonymous wrote:I work for a non profit that helps low income students apply to college. Our counselors do this every year.


Is your nonprofit in NoVA? If, so how do you select kids to help?
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2021 23:24     Subject: How is this fair?
I remember my high school guidance counselor helping a student to get off the waitlist at Brown. She emphasized that the student came from a very generous full-pay family.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2021 21:39     Subject: Re:How is this fair?
Anonymous wrote:I think I private schools do help with ED - if you already can afford to pay for private, and the counselor calls Northeestern or Brown and says the kid is really interested, that means full pay. It’s about yield and money more so than superior students. And yes, proving you can pay, and are a potential donor, is the biggest advantage for private schools. Same advantage goes to private school kids trying to get into Greek Life. It’s the same kind of system to favor and attract the rich. .


Its about relationships and reputation just like free TJ
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2021 21:37     Subject: How is this fair?
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Anonymous wrote:I would think that the majority of admissions counselors would hate this kind of thing. They aren't paid well, but have to take time out to listen to some counselor from a fancy private school go on and on about how special Thurston Gregory IV is?



Nope. It is a collegial community. This is part of the job for both of them.


I feel like the people who believe this most strongly turn in to the people talking up Elon once their kids acceptances come in


Yes because all private school kids go to Elon ???


Elon and Tulane seem to be the constant suggestion when people whine about the unfairness of grade deflation for their private school children who obviously really belong at HYPS


Maybe it's what you remember or want to read. 2/3 of the class from big 3 schools go to top/ivy colleges or top liberal arts school. People are not stupid to wasteful. If Tulane and Elon were the only options there would be a decrease in enrollment. Your comment just shows how ignorant you and your post are of the college admission process. Much of this information is publicly available so you actually want to throw daggers and be ignorant. If you wanted this for your kid why didn't you research college placement for your public or private school years ago. I can guarantee those parents you are busy calling stupid did.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2021 19:34     Subject: Re:How is this fair?
I think I private schools do help with ED - if you already can afford to pay for private, and the counselor calls Northeestern or Brown and says the kid is really interested, that means full pay. It’s about yield and money more so than superior students. And yes, proving you can pay, and are a potential donor, is the biggest advantage for private schools. Same advantage goes to private school kids trying to get into Greek Life. It’s the same kind of system to favor and attract the rich. .
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2021 19:12     Subject: Re:How is this fair?
Off-topic, but OP, why are you checking out the sites?
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2021 19:04     Subject: How is this fair?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I would think that the majority of admissions counselors would hate this kind of thing. They aren't paid well, but have to take time out to listen to some counselor from a fancy private school go on and on about how special Thurston Gregory IV is?



Nope. It is a collegial community. This is part of the job for both of them.


I feel like the people who believe this most strongly turn in to the people talking up Elon once their kids acceptances come in


Yes because all private school kids go to Elon ???


Elon and Tulane seem to be the constant suggestion when people whine about the unfairness of grade deflation for their private school children who obviously really belong at HYPS
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2021 18:39     Subject: How is this fair?
* have NEVER connected
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2021 18:39     Subject: Re:How is this fair?
My daughter goes to a huge, looked down upon by outsiders, FCPS school. An email from the Denison admissions officer said they communicate with many Northern Virginia high schools but have connected with ours. (Didn't sound like the were interested in it at all.) In terms of self-advocating, my daughter was told to try to get invited to a college fair at another NoVa high school. Yeah, right.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2021 18:22     Subject: Re:How is this fair?
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Anonymous wrote:I work for a non profit that helps low income students apply to college. Our counselors do this every year.


The low income and the high income are supported but as usual the middle has to find their own way.


Very few low income kids are supported. A few non profits like the one mentioned above barely make a dent in the gap that exists between low and middle income children.


Sorry, but I have to disagree. The low income students who are willing to work hard are very well supported by programs such as Questbridge and financial aid. I see plenty of low income students apply to elite schools without any thought about how they would pay the tuition because they know they will get a free ride if accepted. Lots of middle income students don't apply to elite school because their family can't afford the tuition and they know there is no merit aid. Have you read about students getting acceptances into a ridiculous number of colleges (like 50+)? Well, it's always about some low income kids that have overcome the odds. I bet that they put in that many application because they didn't have to pay a penny since they qualify for an application waiver. No middle income kids will apply to that many colleges because they just can't afford the application fees. So, yeah low income kids get plenty of support. In this country, you either have to very poor or very rich to have a decent chance at the top universities without going into debt. The middle class students are the ones who are often forgotten.


Wow! Your post is just unbelievable!


It seems entirely accurate. Fee waivers do exacerbate the problem and many great schools are in a position to meet all demonstrated need. The disconnect may be in getting that information out there.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2021 18:10     Subject: How is this fair?
Not sure what is unfair. Some public schools do the same. If you go to one that doesn't advocate for it.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2021 18:00     Subject: Re:How is this fair?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I work for a non profit that helps low income students apply to college. Our counselors do this every year.


The low income and the high income are supported but as usual the middle has to find their own way.


Very few low income kids are supported. A few non profits like the one mentioned above barely make a dent in the gap that exists between low and middle income children.


Sorry, but I have to disagree. The low income students who are willing to work hard are very well supported by programs such as Questbridge and financial aid. I see plenty of low income students apply to elite schools without any thought about how they would pay the tuition because they know they will get a free ride if accepted. Lots of middle income students don't apply to elite school because their family can't afford the tuition and they know there is no merit aid. Have you read about students getting acceptances into a ridiculous number of colleges (like 50+)? Well, it's always about some low income kids that have overcome the odds. I bet that they put in that many application because they didn't have to pay a penny since they qualify for an application waiver. No middle income kids will apply to that many colleges because they just can't afford the application fees. So, yeah low income kids get plenty of support. In this country, you either have to very poor or very rich to have a decent chance at the top universities without going into debt. The middle class students are the ones who are often forgotten.


Wow! Your post is just unbelievable!
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2021 16:12     Subject: How is this fair?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would think that the majority of admissions counselors would hate this kind of thing. They aren't paid well, but have to take time out to listen to some counselor from a fancy private school go on and on about how special Thurston Gregory IV is?



Nope. It is a collegial community. This is part of the job for both of them.


I feel like the people who believe this most strongly turn in to the people talking up Elon once their kids acceptances come in


Yes because all private school kids go to Elon ???
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2021 15:07     Subject: How is this fair?
Lots of private high schools are called feeder schools.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2021 14:58     Subject: How is this fair?
Life is not fair

Money buys power, influence and privilege.

Best to accept this and teach it to your teens.