Anonymous
Post 06/09/2021 16:10     Subject: Let's keep the outdoor dining, the streets reserved for walking, and the new bike lanes.
Going out to ride bikes with my kids today on a new bike lane/ slowed street. Excited!
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2021 06:43     Subject: Let's keep the outdoor dining, the streets reserved for walking, and the new bike lanes.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Two things:

If they keep dining in the curb lane on some major streets, they are going to have to do better than Jersey barriers, which are not just ugly, but also very unsafe to motorists without a transition and cushioning barriers. Second, as traffic rebounds, there has to be so,e consideration of road capacity and traffic diversion from the resulting constraints placed on major thoroughfare carrying capacity.

The rationale was to provide outdoor seating space due to indoor dining restrictions. Now that those restrictions have lifted, so has the rationale. I think as the summer goes on we will slowly see things return to pre-pandemic conditions. Otherwise the problem will be that businesses will complain that their customers cannot get there due to traffic jams.


The streeteries sure don't look like the restaurant customers can't get there...

If Jersey barriers are unsafe for motorists on low-speed streets in cities and urbanized suburbs, only imagine how unsafe they must be on high-speed limited-access highways like the Beltway and 270!
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2021 00:20     Subject: Let's keep the outdoor dining, the streets reserved for walking, and the new bike lanes.
Anonymous wrote:Two things:

If they keep dining in the curb lane on some major streets, they are going to have to do better than Jersey barriers, which are not just ugly, but also very unsafe to motorists without a transition and cushioning barriers. Second, as traffic rebounds, there has to be so,e consideration of road capacity and traffic diversion from the resulting constraints placed on major thoroughfare carrying capacity.

The rationale was to provide outdoor seating space due to indoor dining restrictions. Now that those restrictions have lifted, so has the rationale. I think as the summer goes on we will slowly see things return to pre-pandemic conditions. Otherwise the problem will be that businesses will complain that their customers cannot get there due to traffic jams.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2021 14:38     Subject: Let's keep the outdoor dining, the streets reserved for walking, and the new bike lanes.
Anonymous wrote:YES PLEASE.
Also: school busses for all lottery seats would help families a lot.


Umm . . . no. You have a close by option. If it's that important, use it. The city should not pay for your transportation across town because you don't want to send your kid to a nearby school.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2021 14:35     Subject: Re:Let's keep the outdoor dining, the streets reserved for walking, and the new bike lanes.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When it's 90 degrees with 80 percent humidity, there's nothing more I want to do than....go outside and ride a bike? That sounds awful.



I dont understand the appeal. It's a very slow way of getting around, you get all sweaty and disgusting doing it and there's a nontrivial chance that you will be killed doing it. No thank you.


I don’t understand how you can so casually do something, like driving a car, which has a non-trivial chance of killing or injuring someone. How anti-social!
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2021 14:34     Subject: Re:Let's keep the outdoor dining, the streets reserved for walking, and the new bike lanes.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I love and use the DC bike lanes ... and see plenty of other folks using them, esp during rush hour. I take 11th street up to spring, and then 14th street up past Walter Reed ... it's great


Then you can probably attest 1st hand how business on 14th street has been hampered by the addition of bike lanes there. It’s like a wasteland now compared to 15 years ago, right? Definitely not a vibrant area.

/s


It looks great to me
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2021 14:32     Subject: Re:Let's keep the outdoor dining, the streets reserved for walking, and the new bike lanes.
Anonymous wrote:

oh brother. talk about junk science. let me guess: multiple studies have also found that bike commuters are the best looking too, right?


Feel free to google it.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2021 14:31     Subject: Re:Let's keep the outdoor dining, the streets reserved for walking, and the new bike lanes.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When it's 90 degrees with 80 percent humidity, there's nothing more I want to do than....go outside and ride a bike? That sounds awful.



I dont understand the appeal. It's a very slow way of getting around, you get all sweaty and disgusting doing it and there's a nontrivial chance that you will be killed doing it. No thank you.



This is why 98 percent of Washingtonians will never once use a bike lane.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2021 14:30     Subject: Re:Let's keep the outdoor dining, the streets reserved for walking, and the new bike lanes.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When it's 90 degrees with 80 percent humidity, there's nothing more I want to do than....go outside and ride a bike? That sounds awful.


I dont understand the appeal. It's a very slow way of getting around, you get all sweaty and disgusting doing it and there's a nontrivial chance that you will be killed doing it. No thank you.


Then don't. Nobody is forcing you to ride a bike.

Mind you, especially for short (city) distances, it's often faster to go by bike than drive, especially during peak times and/or if you factor the need to park your car. And there's a nontrivial chance that you will be killed while driving.


^^^Also, multiple studies have found that the happiest commuters are bike commuters.


oh brother. talk about junk science. let me guess: multiple studies have also found that bike commuters are the best looking too, right?
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2021 14:25     Subject: Re:Let's keep the outdoor dining, the streets reserved for walking, and the new bike lanes.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When it's 90 degrees with 80 percent humidity, there's nothing more I want to do than....go outside and ride a bike? That sounds awful.


I dont understand the appeal. It's a very slow way of getting around, you get all sweaty and disgusting doing it and there's a nontrivial chance that you will be killed doing it. No thank you.


Then don't. Nobody is forcing you to ride a bike.

Mind you, especially for short (city) distances, it's often faster to go by bike than drive, especially during peak times and/or if you factor the need to park your car. And there's a nontrivial chance that you will be killed while driving.


^^^Also, multiple studies have found that the happiest commuters are bike commuters.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2021 14:23     Subject: Re:Let's keep the outdoor dining, the streets reserved for walking, and the new bike lanes.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When it's 90 degrees with 80 percent humidity, there's nothing more I want to do than....go outside and ride a bike? That sounds awful.


I dont understand the appeal. It's a very slow way of getting around, you get all sweaty and disgusting doing it and there's a nontrivial chance that you will be killed doing it. No thank you.


Then don't. Nobody is forcing you to ride a bike.

Mind you, especially for short (city) distances, it's often faster to go by bike than drive, especially during peak times and/or if you factor the need to park your car. And there's a nontrivial chance that you will be killed while driving.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2021 14:22     Subject: Let's keep the outdoor dining, the streets reserved for walking, and the new bike lanes.
Two things:

If they keep dining in the curb lane on some major streets, they are going to have to do better than Jersey barriers, which are not just ugly, but also very unsafe to motorists without a transition and cushioning barriers. Second, as traffic rebounds, there has to be so,e consideration of road capacity and traffic diversion from the resulting constraints placed on major thoroughfare carrying capacity.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2021 14:20     Subject: Re:Let's keep the outdoor dining, the streets reserved for walking, and the new bike lanes.
Anonymous wrote:When it's 90 degrees with 80 percent humidity, there's nothing more I want to do than....go outside and ride a bike? That sounds awful.



I dont understand the appeal. It's a very slow way of getting around, you get all sweaty and disgusting doing it and there's a nontrivial chance that you will be killed doing it. No thank you.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2021 14:18     Subject: Re:Let's keep the outdoor dining, the streets reserved for walking, and the new bike lanes.
Anonymous wrote:When it's 90 degrees with 80 percent humidity, there's nothing more I want to do than....go outside and ride a bike? That sounds awful.


I mean, I don't think of it as "I want to go outside and ride a bike!" I think of it as "I'm going to [Place A] to [do Task B]."

What I, personally, really hate doing when it's 90 degrees with 80 percent humidity, is getting into a baking-hot car. That's awful.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2021 14:15     Subject: Re:Let's keep the outdoor dining, the streets reserved for walking, and the new bike lanes.
Anonymous wrote:When it's 90 degrees with 80 percent humidity, there's nothing more I want to do than....go outside and ride a bike? That sounds awful.


Well it was in the mid-70s on my way into work and I don’t mind getting sweaty on the way home. A little sweaty vs a lot sweaty - who cares? I’m showing either way.

The only really awful thing is drivers who put my life at risk. Pay attention or GTFO.