Anonymous
Post 06/02/2021 17:03     Subject: Gansler is running for MD Governor
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Anonymous wrote:He’s a likable guy but I would not want him as a governor.


He's actually not.


He is not. I encountered him when he was MoCo county attorney, and he came across as a self-important jerk. All swagger but less substance.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2021 11:51     Subject: Gansler is running for MD Governor
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any word on his position on police reform? I don't see any mention of that. And since he's a former prosecutor, it would be interesting to see if his views have evolved at all.


This issue will be big.

I predict the Dem who wins the primary will have a progressive stance and the Republican will get the police union support while using squishy language on reform.

Note: we have a Republican Governor who easily defeated a Dem candidate the last two times. I’m not so sure MD is as progressive as we think we are.


You must have slept through the last gubernatorial election where the progressive democrat got slaughtered in the general. Perez has no shot.

The last two Dem candidates were just awful.

There was the "Obama" prototype moderate, Ivy educated candidate who is just a major dud of a person and a lazy candidate, but had a lot of establishment/machine support due to time in Annapolis.

Then there was the activist "progressive" candidate who was full of ideals but had no prior experience in elected office and offered no tangible or practical solutions to improve ordinary peoples lives.

Tom Perez is the perfect synthesis of these two people. He has nothing to offer people in Howard or Frederick County. He has nothing to offer people in Baltimore. And he has nothing to offer people on the Eastern Shore.

He probably doesn't even know what Maryland's key industries are (crabs, chickens, truck assembly, asset management/real estate investment) or could name the Fortune 500 companies headquartered in the state.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2021 09:18     Subject: Gansler is running for MD Governor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any word on his position on police reform? I don't see any mention of that. And since he's a former prosecutor, it would be interesting to see if his views have evolved at all.


This issue will be big.

I predict the Dem who wins the primary will have a progressive stance and the Republican will get the police union support while using squishy language on reform.

Note: we have a Republican Governor who easily defeated a Dem candidate the last two times. I’m not so sure MD is as progressive as we think we are.


You must have slept through the last gubernatorial election where the progressive democrat got slaughtered in the general. Perez has no shot.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2021 09:15     Subject: Gansler is running for MD Governor
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He’s a likable guy but I would not want him as a governor.


He's actually not.


Agree with that but he's at least pretty smart.

He's definitely a laxbro though.

It would have to be a pretty weak field before I'd vote for him.


He’s not smart al all.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2021 08:56     Subject: Gansler is running for MD Governor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any word on his position on police reform? I don't see any mention of that. And since he's a former prosecutor, it would be interesting to see if his views have evolved at all.


This issue will be big.

I predict the Dem who wins the primary will have a progressive stance and the Republican will get the police union support while using squishy language on reform.

Note: we have a Republican Governor who easily defeated a Dem candidate the last two times. I’m not so sure MD is as progressive as we think we are.


The police must be defunded in Maryland.


You know who suffers when that happens? Lower income Black and Brown people. Upper income people can afford to live in low crime neighborhoods, send their kids to low crime schools, drive later model cars that provide more safety in car crashes, and so on. But go ahead with your performative politics.


What does the bolded have to do with defunding the police?
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2021 08:41     Subject: Gansler is running for MD Governor
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think a MoCo guy has a chance. He’s pandering to Baltimore because he knows he needs votes across the state.

The Dem machine definitely picked a loser the last time around. But, who exactly comprises the Dem machine? And, who will they pick this time? Any chance the machine picked him? Or, is it Franchot?


They will pick Tom Perez if he runs.


LOL, no.

Franchot has way more name recognition, statewide popularity, and money.

Outside of some leftist DSA types, most people dont even know who Perez is.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2021 23:59     Subject: Gansler is running for MD Governor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think a MoCo guy has a chance. He’s pandering to Baltimore because he knows he needs votes across the state.

The Dem machine definitely picked a loser the last time around. But, who exactly comprises the Dem machine? And, who will they pick this time? Any chance the machine picked him? Or, is it Franchot?


They will pick Tom Perez if he runs.

LOL, no. Franchot is the machine politician this time and he has more pull in more places in this state than anyone. No one in Maryland really knows who Tom Perez is outside of party activities and he has no chits to call nor favors to grant. I'm not sure why people think that a one-term county councilmember from Takoma Park can win statewide.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2021 08:57     Subject: Gansler is running for MD Governor
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think a MoCo guy has a chance. He’s pandering to Baltimore because he knows he needs votes across the state.

The Dem machine definitely picked a loser the last time around. But, who exactly comprises the Dem machine? And, who will they pick this time? Any chance the machine picked him? Or, is it Franchot?


They will pick Tom Perez if he runs.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2021 08:12     Subject: Gansler is running for MD Governor
I don’t think a MoCo guy has a chance. He’s pandering to Baltimore because he knows he needs votes across the state.

The Dem machine definitely picked a loser the last time around. But, who exactly comprises the Dem machine? And, who will they pick this time? Any chance the machine picked him? Or, is it Franchot?
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2021 03:14     Subject: Gansler is running for MD Governor
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If he values diversity, I will consider supporting him


The white fraternity brother who went to all private schools and sent his kids to all private schools? Yes it is a huge concern for him.

He’s also already been elected to state wide office, so whatever your issues with Gansler the majority of Maryland voters did not share them.


He lost the primary for governor.

Which proves exactly what? The only thing that it proves in Maryland is that the establishment circled the wagons around one candidate who turned out to be a major loser and still is.

White guy who went to private school and sent kids to private school is exact profile of the last elected Democratic Governor of Maryland, who you seem to be very ignorant of.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2021 15:35     Subject: Gansler is running for MD Governor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If he values diversity, I will consider supporting him


The white fraternity brother who went to all private schools and sent his kids to all private schools? Yes it is a huge concern for him.

He’s also already been elected to state wide office, so whatever your issues with Gansler the majority of Maryland voters did not share them.


He lost the primary for governor.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2021 08:53     Subject: Gansler is running for MD Governor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any word on his position on police reform? I don't see any mention of that. And since he's a former prosecutor, it would be interesting to see if his views have evolved at all.


This issue will be big.

I predict the Dem who wins the primary will have a progressive stance and the Republican will get the police union support while using squishy language on reform.

Note: we have a Republican Governor who easily defeated a Dem candidate the last two times. I’m not so sure MD is as progressive as we think we are.


The police must be defunded in Maryland.


You know who suffers when that happens? Lower income Black and Brown people. Upper income people can afford to live in low crime neighborhoods, send their kids to low crime schools, drive later model cars that provide more safety in car crashes, and so on. But go ahead with your performative politics.

This is not a real issue in Maryland and absolutely no one who has a serious chance of winning is going to run for office, state or local, any where in this state that will make this a part of their program. So there’s really no point in discussing it.

I’m honestly not sure why y’all are fixated on police reform when it is not a salient issue is this state at the moment. The big issue right now is transportation, where MoCo based politicians are so dumb that they support tolling their constituents to improve 270. The rest of the state politicians were smart enough to remove toll lanes from the rest of the beltway.

There is going to be a big fight between these transit weirdos and the reality that more people want to and will drive post-Covid. This is the issue to watch and the pro-roads people will most likely win.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2021 08:41     Subject: Gansler is running for MD Governor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any word on his position on police reform? I don't see any mention of that. And since he's a former prosecutor, it would be interesting to see if his views have evolved at all.


This issue will be big.

I predict the Dem who wins the primary will have a progressive stance and the Republican will get the police union support while using squishy language on reform.

Note: we have a Republican Governor who easily defeated a Dem candidate the last two times. I’m not so sure MD is as progressive as we think we are.


The police must be defunded in Maryland.


You know who suffers when that happens? Lower income Black and Brown people. Upper income people can afford to live in low crime neighborhoods, send their kids to low crime schools, drive later model cars that provide more safety in car crashes, and so on. But go ahead with your performative politics.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2021 08:39     Subject: Gansler is running for MD Governor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any word on his position on police reform? I don't see any mention of that. And since he's a former prosecutor, it would be interesting to see if his views have evolved at all.

If he’s smart he positions himself like Val Demings in FL on this issue. Someone from within the criminal justice system that recognizes there are reforms that need to be made in policing, and changes to how we prosecute crimes particularly where mental health and drug abuse come into play, but that reform doesn’t involve defunding the police or giving people a free pass on serious violent crime. A more common sense approach that speaks to a broad spectrum of voters. While pockets of MD are AOC style progressive, the state as a whole does not vote that way, which is how we end up with a popular Republican governor. A Democrat that runs to the far left is not going to win statewide office.


I agree with you. Both in politics and policy.


+1.

There are a lot of ways he can carve out his position on this and position himself as someone with the perfect balance of maintaining public safety and advocating reform. He prosecuted the snipers, for example, and if he was a far left criminal justice crusader like Charles Allen in DC, the idea would be that Lee Malvo should now have a chance at freedom (his crimes were over 15 years ago and he was a juvie at the time), but most of us who lived through that would tell you the idea that he should get out is ludicrous. Contrast his real world experience as a part of law enforcement with the people on the far left who have never interacted with a victim of a violent crime or represented a community deeply affected by violence. It’s an easy one to hit out of the park in a state like Maryland that with its far left and far right communities balancing each other out falls largely in the moderate cateogry, be it Republican or Democrat.

Police reform is off the table as an issue in Maryland because the State Assembly already repealed to LEO Bill of Rights and included provisions in law to provide for civilian review. Reform is done in Maryland and all Gansler will have to say is that he supports it now and he supported it when he was AG. The end.


Oh no, it's not. The whole reason those changes don't become effective until 2022 is so that the General Assembly can go back next year and tweak the changes. There's way more in-party fighting than folks realize.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2021 08:33     Subject: Gansler is running for MD Governor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If he values diversity, I will consider supporting him


The white fraternity brother who went to all private schools and sent his kids to all private schools? Yes it is a huge concern for him.

He’s also already been elected to state wide office, so whatever your issues with Gansler the majority of Maryland voters did not share them.