Trying to defend the cheating? And then blaming the other team? Typical.

Anonymous wrote:I heard Madlax got crushed and the goalie had nothing to do with it. Upset Madlax parents took photos of Cavs kids with their helmets off and distributed through the community asking for identification. Not okay.

The goalie had nothing to do with it, so why did Cavs play a 9th grader in both semis and finals? Let me break it down for you - teams can't play nonrostered players and any player can't be attending high school. Should we post the championship picture that got posted on the Cavs FB page?

I heard Madlax got crushed and the goalie had nothing to do with it. Upset Madlax parents took photos of Cavs kids with their helmets off and distributed through the community asking for identification. Not okay.

It is not only cheating, it is a safety and liability issue. A ninth grader should not be playing a contact sport against sixth graders.

I don't think I've ever seen a lacrosse goalie make contact with anyone.

It's not like they put in a 9th grade attacker to bulldoze his way through the 6th grade defenders.

It is not only cheating, it is a safety and liability issue. A ninth grader should not be playing a contact sport against sixth graders. It blows my mind that coaches entrusted with kids could be so foolish and so unethical.

The guys who run Cavalier have generally a good reputation. Did they know about this? If I had a son who was considering joining Cavalier at any age, not just 2027, I would definitely ask how this happened and what they did about it. There is at least one travel program at a similar level and location (Evergreen, now Hammers) competing with Cavalier so families do have options.

Somebody said earlier that the Dad of the ninth grader is a HS coach himself - is that true and if so what school?

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Anonymous wrote:I've heard this team will be nonexistent in the fall with kids going to Hammers or to VLC. If either of those programs will have them.

Eh, the only Cavs player who is blameworthy here is the goalie. None of those players had any say in the coach's bad decision to put that goalie in. You can't expect kids that age to tell an adult coach "no, this is wrong, you can't do that".

I doubt their future teams will know or care about this debacle. You're good at lacrosse and your dad has the club fee? OK, you're in.

A low blow for the Cavs, what parent is going to tolerate their kid playing for a coach who's going to put in a high school player to win a 6th grade tournament?

Because the coach is a wonderful person who had a lapse of judgment. In a few months all this will blow over and everyone on this board will be back to dogging on Cabell and Trig.

hoco could give this wonderful person a 1 year suspension for cheating - nvyll would do the same - its not just an unrostered player. It's a HS player playing in a youth game 3 years beneath his grade. you're right, it will eventually blow over but don't be surprised if this team is called cheaters the rest of the summer and after.

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Anonymous wrote:I've heard this team will be nonexistent in the fall with kids going to Hammers or to VLC. If either of those programs will have them.

Eh, the only Cavs player who is blameworthy here is the goalie. None of those players had any say in the coach's bad decision to put that goalie in. You can't expect kids that age to tell an adult coach "no, this is wrong, you can't do that".

I doubt their future teams will know or care about this debacle. You're good at lacrosse and your dad has the club fee? OK, you're in.

A low blow for the Cavs, what parent is going to tolerate their kid playing for a coach who's going to put in a high school player to win a 6th grade tournament?

Because the coach is a wonderful person who had a lapse of judgment. In a few months all this will blow over and everyone on this board will be back to dogging on Cabell and Trig.

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A low blow for the Cavs, what parent is going to tolerate their kid playing for a coach who's going to put in a high school player to win a 6th grade tournament?

Who knows, maybe the team will implode, but plenty of parents will just regard it as a regrettable one-off. If it comes down to a choice between "drive a lot farther to the practice field" and "put up with a sleazy coach" then quite a few people will go with the former.

that's true. cavs can either replace the coach or pull down more players from cavs 24 to make a run at winning all their games this summer.

A low blow for the Cavs, what parent is going to tolerate their kid playing for a coach who's going to put in a high school player to win a 6th grade tournament?

Who knows, maybe the team will implode, but plenty of parents will just regard it as a regrettable one-off. If it comes down to a choice between "drive a lot farther to the practice field" and "put up with a sleazy coach" then quite a few people will go with the former.

Anonymous wrote:Where does the dad coach and does the school even know what happened? In my humble opinion both the dad and son should be canceled from high school lacrosse.

Wait. What?? Are you saying that the parent of the HS player is actually a HS coach himself?

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Anonymous wrote:I've heard this team will be nonexistent in the fall with kids going to Hammers or to VLC. If either of those programs will have them.

Eh, the only Cavs player who is blameworthy here is the goalie. None of those players had any say in the coach's bad decision to put that goalie in. You can't expect kids that age to tell an adult coach "no, this is wrong, you can't do that".

I doubt their future teams will know or care about this debacle. You're good at lacrosse and your dad has the club fee? OK, you're in.

A low blow for the Cavs, what parent is going to tolerate their kid playing for a coach who's going to put in a high school player to win a 6th grade tournament?

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Anonymous wrote:It's like they've never had to pick some random kid from their own team who's never played goalie to suit up. That happens at like 80% of rec games, and plenty of travel when all the goalies are at hockey tournaments.

That’s not quite the same as a high schooler getting picked up for a sixth grade championship game.

No it isn't. Clubs attending summer tourney events with Cavs 2027 may want to keep an eye out for this team.

I wonder if the goalie will put that film in his highlight reel.

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Anonymous wrote:It's like they've never had to pick some random kid from their own team who's never played goalie to suit up. That happens at like 80% of rec games, and plenty of travel when all the goalies are at hockey tournaments.

That’s not quite the same as a high schooler getting picked up for a sixth grade championship game.

Yeah that's what I meant. The only solution to not having goalie they could think of was to get a 24 to do it? It happens all the time that teams don't have goalies, so this isn't some weird scenario they've never seen before. No one could say "Well I guess that was just bad judgment but understandable how they could arrive at that based on these unusual circumstances."

Anonymous wrote:I've heard this team will be nonexistent in the fall with kids going to Hammers or to VLC. If either of those programs will have them.

Eh, the only Cavs player who is blameworthy here is the goalie. None of those players had any say in the coach's bad decision to put that goalie in. You can't expect kids that age to tell an adult coach "no, this is wrong, you can't do that".

I doubt their future teams will know or care about this debacle. You're good at lacrosse and your dad has the club fee? OK, you're in.