Anonymous
Post 05/10/2021 17:08     Subject: Smart kid wants a party/sports school (ugh)- Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, U Florida?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If he wants to do STEM, a lot of the big state schools that have a lot of good sports teams also have great STEM programs (engineering, bio fields, chem, etc.). Some ideas:
UofF
UofAriz
Marquette
Not sure if he's competitive with those scores, but those are all good schools for STEM. Weather is obviously different between the three!


Marquette?

It is a smaller parochial school in Milwaukee. Not a big state school.

Marquette is not attached to a parish. It is Catholic but not parochial.


It still isn't a state school with a lot of school spirit.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2021 17:08     Subject: Smart kid wants a party/sports school (ugh)- Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, U Florida?
Anonymous wrote:What is wrong with you - Wisconsin is actually a great pick


It is a great pick, but most like 1300 SATs are not going to hack it for admissions.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2021 16:35     Subject: Smart kid wants a party/sports school (ugh)- Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, U Florida?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If he wants to do STEM, a lot of the big state schools that have a lot of good sports teams also have great STEM programs (engineering, bio fields, chem, etc.). Some ideas:
UofF
UofAriz
Marquette
Not sure if he's competitive with those scores, but those are all good schools for STEM. Weather is obviously different between the three!


Marquette?

It is a smaller parochial school in Milwaukee. Not a big state school.

Marquette is not attached to a parish. It is Catholic but not parochial.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2021 16:32     Subject: Smart kid wants a party/sports school (ugh)- Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, U Florida?
What is wrong with you - Wisconsin is actually a great pick
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2021 16:30     Subject: Re:Smart kid wants a party/sports school (ugh)- Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, U Florida?
Anonymous wrote:Florida. How is this even a question? He wants a large, SEC Football school.

/Go Gators


UF grad here. Loved my time there. Go Gators!!!
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2021 16:27     Subject: Re:Smart kid wants a party/sports school (ugh)- Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, U Florida?
If he likes UCLA, then maybe look at San Diego State.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2021 16:12     Subject: Smart kid wants a party/sports school (ugh)- Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, U Florida?
Anonymous wrote:If he wants to do STEM, a lot of the big state schools that have a lot of good sports teams also have great STEM programs (engineering, bio fields, chem, etc.). Some ideas:
UofF
UofAriz
Marquette
Not sure if he's competitive with those scores, but those are all good schools for STEM. Weather is obviously different between the three!


Marquette?

It is a smaller parochial school in Milwaukee. Not a big state school.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2021 16:06     Subject: Smart kid wants a party/sports school (ugh)- Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, U Florida?
New Mexico!
http://scholarship.unm.edu/
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2021 15:39     Subject: Smart kid wants a party/sports school (ugh)- Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, U Florida?
Similar rankings to Penn State, Michigan State is pretty generous for out of states.

https://admissions.msu.edu/cost-aid/scholarships/freshman/high-achieving
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2021 15:37     Subject: Smart kid wants a party/sports school (ugh)- Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, U Florida?
What about West Virginia? He should get merit aid, it's got big12 sports and it's a party atmosphere.

Anonymous
Post 05/10/2021 15:31     Subject: Smart kid wants a party/sports school (ugh)- Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, U Florida?
Ohio State has a lot of school spirit, but having taught there, apart from athletes and some arts departments, it does seem mostly like in-state students. The engineering and science departments are very, very good.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2021 15:20     Subject: Smart kid wants a party/sports school (ugh)- Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, U Florida?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The upside of wanting a kid with good grades who wants to go to a party school is he has a good shot at serious merit money.

The University of Michigan offers full ride scholarships for students from Virginia who major in engineering: https://scholarships.engin.umich.edu/gloria-wille-bell-and-carlos-r-bell-scholarship/

Iowa State also offers generous merit scholarships to out-of-state students: https://www.admissions.iastate.edu/scholarships/freshman/md

The University of Iowa is very fun party school, popular among Chicagoland residents. Nonstop flights from DC, lots of scholarships for students who can keep a 3.50 G.P.A. amid all that partying: https://clas.uiowa.edu/students/scholarships#Entering%20First-Time%20First-Year

It says in that link that 2-5 scholarships per year are awarded and Virginia residents got $20k/year. not sure where you're getting full ride. and this kid probably wouldn't even get into michigan, let alone get a scholarship that is only given to a tiny tiny silver of the incoming class


I knew people who got the scholarship. It used to be a full ride.

It's hard to think of this in the highly competitive atmosphere of this area, but there are a lot of state flagships that would be happy to have your kid and their superior academic achievement bringing up the averages. Lots of scholarships that basically give you in-state tuition at the University of Georgia (presidential waiver), etc. Just look outside the colleges like Michigan, Delaware, etc that have a long track record of attracting out of staters.


He would be lucky to get into UGA with those scores. You have to submit a score there, and they do not do holistic admissions. So, I doubt he would get a presidential waiver. Just trying to help OP be realistic. He might get some aid at Clemson, and it is cheaper than say Wisconsin.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2021 15:07     Subject: Re:Smart kid wants a party/sports school (ugh)- Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, U Florida?
Florida. How is this even a question? He wants a large, SEC Football school.

/Go Gators
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2021 15:01     Subject: Smart kid wants a party/sports school (ugh)- Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, U Florida?
Anonymous wrote:UCLA test blind only for in state applicants.



They are test blind for *all* applicants:

"UC will not consider ACT or SAT test scores for admissions decisions or the awarding of Regents and Chancellors scholarships for any fall 2021 and fall 2022 applicants."


[Source: https://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/admission-requirements/freshman-requirements/exam-requirement/ ]
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2021 15:01     Subject: Smart kid wants a party/sports school (ugh)- Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, U Florida?
Anonymous wrote:It is only May. I would have your child determine which test he is stronger in (SAT or ACT) and retake, preferably by August. If you have $200,000 to spend on college, you can spend some of that on test prep.


I say this because there is a mismatch between your child's UWgpa and SAT score. Big state schools care a lot about test scores when doling out merit awards.