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Anonymous wrote:No. You are already paying for their skill, time, and product. I would not tip an extra $60 plus for 2 hrs of service. I would leave a $20-30 tip. Servers are making $3/hr, food service in a restaurant is not comparable

Wrong! They could have had 4 customers in those 2 hours and would have made way more than $20-$30 in tips! I would not keep you as a client if you used my time and tipped that way.

This is an honest question... why don’t you just charge what you think your time is worth? Your clients may tip 0-20%. Some tip extra at Christmas. Some don’t. Just charge $450 for a haircut and accept a tip as an extra is you get one?

NP - because most salons set the prices, not by individual stylist.

Yeah, at bubbles. If a stylist is any good, they are working for themselves.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, just like you'd pay 10% food tax on a $400 food bill. It's not based on your sticker shock.

If you tip nothing at a restaurant on a 400 bill, the server gets about $6-9 for your 2-3 hours of her time.

If you tip nothing at a hair salon on a 400 bill, the stylist either gets $400 (minus their chair rent which is spread out weekly or monthly) OR they give about 1/2 or even maybe 2/3 to the owner and honestly any place charging 400 for a few hours should ABSOLUTELY be booth rental, anyone good enough to be working there should have enough clients to be self-employed at a chair rental salon, if they aren't then customers are straight suckers for paying this for a stylist who is subpar.

I'm not saying don't tip. I am saying pretending all service industry jobs are the same is ridiculous.

No one ever says to tip a MD botox injector but that's just as much a service industry/ cosmetic thing as nails or dining out.

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Anonymous wrote:The anger about paying a talented worker for their services from a bunch of people who bill or who have spouse's who bill $300+ an hour is impressive.

Except those billing $300 plus per hr went to 10 yrs of medical training or 4 yrs of law school plus internships at the cost of several hundred thousand dollars in education to be able to bill as such. That is not a comparable skill and investment to cosmetology school and cutting/coloring hair. There time is certainly worth money and salons do charge a lot for services, but sorry, I'm not "tipping" an extra $60 for 2 hrs of work which I already am paying for.

WAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I'm more educated so I'm more important!!!

Who said “important”? Sounds like you’re insecure.

Anonymous wrote:I do tip 20% but I also am frustrated with it. Aren’t they paid a full salary for their job? Why don’t we also tip retail workers or all service providers? Do you tip the Verizon worker when they come to your house, or the plumber? I’m honestly curious? Also when I moved a few years ago and paid the moving company like $10,000, I still tipped the movers hundreds of dollars. Was that the right thing to do?

+1 I love being prompted to tip on self-service food.

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Anonymous wrote:The anger about paying a talented worker for their services from a bunch of people who bill or who have spouse's who bill $300+ an hour is impressive.

Except those billing $300 plus per hr went to 10 yrs of medical training or 4 yrs of law school plus internships at the cost of several hundred thousand dollars in education to be able to bill as such. That is not a comparable skill and investment to cosmetology school and cutting/coloring hair. There time is certainly worth money and salons do charge a lot for services, but sorry, I'm not "tipping" an extra $60 for 2 hrs of work which I already am paying for.

You are just cheap. I'm a lawyer and I don't feel like I deserve to tell other professions what they should or should not charge, not begrudge them a customary tip because they didn't go to extensive, expensive schooling. They aren't better than me.

** SORRY meant to say I am not better than them.

$10 tip on shampoo seems exaggerated. At 20pct that implies that the shampoo is a $50 service, which it is not. I give $5 directly to the person doing the shampoo. If it were a complicated treatment like keratin I would give much more to the shampoo person.

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Anonymous wrote:The anger about paying a talented worker for their services from a bunch of people who bill or who have spouse's who bill $300+ an hour is impressive.

Except those billing $300 plus per hr went to 10 yrs of medical training or 4 yrs of law school plus internships at the cost of several hundred thousand dollars in education to be able to bill as such. That is not a comparable skill and investment to cosmetology school and cutting/coloring hair. There time is certainly worth money and salons do charge a lot for services, but sorry, I'm not "tipping" an extra $60 for 2 hrs of work which I already am paying for.

You are just cheap. I'm a lawyer and I don't feel like I deserve to tell other professions what they should or should not charge, not begrudge them a customary tip because they didn't go to extensive, expensive schooling. They aren't better than me.

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Anonymous wrote:The anger about paying a talented worker for their services from a bunch of people who bill or who have spouse's who bill $300+ an hour is impressive.

Except those billing $300 plus per hr went to 10 yrs of medical training or 4 yrs of law school plus internships at the cost of several hundred thousand dollars in education to be able to bill as such. That is not a comparable skill and investment to cosmetology school and cutting/coloring hair. There time is certainly worth money and salons do charge a lot for services, but sorry, I'm not "tipping" an extra $60 for 2 hrs of work which I already am paying for.

WAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I'm more educated so I'm more important!!!

Anonymous wrote:The anger about paying a talented worker for their services from a bunch of people who bill or who have spouse's who bill $300+ an hour is impressive.

Except those billing $300 plus per hr went to 10 yrs of medical training or 4 yrs of law school plus internships at the cost of several hundred thousand dollars in education to be able to bill as such. That is not a comparable skill and investment to cosmetology school and cutting/coloring hair. There time is certainly worth money and salons do charge a lot for services, but sorry, I'm not "tipping" an extra $60 for 2 hrs of work which I already am paying for.

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Anonymous wrote:No. You are already paying for their skill, time, and product. I would not tip an extra $60 plus for 2 hrs of service. I would leave a $20-30 tip. Servers are making $3/hr, food service in a restaurant is not comparable

Wrong! They could have had 4 customers in those 2 hours and would have made way more than $20-$30 in tips! I would not keep you as a client if you used my time and tipped that way.

And you work two customers at a time. If the salon takes 50%, you are still making nearly $600 in the OP example. If it takes you three hours, you’re making $200 an hour.

I thought in addition to salons taking half (or more), the stylist also has to pay to rent the chair?

Why is everyone begrudging stylists a good income? They are on their feet all day, basically independent contractors, have to deal with ups and downs in demand (not a steady income month to month) and it must be tough job dealing with people every day (esp people like the ones who post on this board). Sheesh.

You just described most jobs. Is $50 -$100 an hour not enough for cutting hair?

You should really direct your outrage at the profiteering of corporate America & CEOs -- hair stylists are small potatoes in the scheme of things.

Oh, honey, they get it too. And me covering their butts by compensating for their greed isn’t helpful. You demanding better pay from them would.

PP here. I am not a hair stylist - thanks, though. You sound like a peach.

That’s me, yes. A peach who thinks corporate greed is wrong, people should be paid well, AND hairstylists don’t have to make as much as a pediatrician.

Exaggerate much? It's a free market, people can charge as much as people will pay... But clearly you know how much everyone should be paid, so please dictate that to the rest of us.

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Anonymous wrote:No. You are already paying for their skill, time, and product. I would not tip an extra $60 plus for 2 hrs of service. I would leave a $20-30 tip. Servers are making $3/hr, food service in a restaurant is not comparable

Wrong! They could have had 4 customers in those 2 hours and would have made way more than $20-$30 in tips! I would not keep you as a client if you used my time and tipped that way.

And you work two customers at a time. If the salon takes 50%, you are still making nearly $600 in the OP example. If it takes you three hours, you’re making $200 an hour.

I thought in addition to salons taking half (or more), the stylist also has to pay to rent the chair?

Why is everyone begrudging stylists a good income? They are on their feet all day, basically independent contractors, have to deal with ups and downs in demand (not a steady income month to month) and it must be tough job dealing with people every day (esp people like the ones who post on this board). Sheesh.

You just described most jobs. Is $50 -$100 an hour not enough for cutting hair?

You should really direct your outrage at the profiteering of corporate America & CEOs -- hair stylists are small potatoes in the scheme of things.

Oh, honey, they get it too. And me covering their butts by compensating for their greed isn’t helpful. You demanding better pay from them would.

PP here. I am not a hair stylist - thanks, though. You sound like a peach.

That’s me, yes. A peach who thinks corporate greed is wrong, people should be paid well, AND hairstylists don’t have to make as much as a pediatrician.

I do tip 20% but I also am frustrated with it. Aren’t they paid a full salary for their job? Why don’t we also tip retail workers or all service providers? Do you tip the Verizon worker when they come to your house, or the plumber? I’m honestly curious? Also when I moved a few years ago and paid the moving company like $10,000, I still tipped the movers hundreds of dollars. Was that the right thing to do?

Anonymous wrote:No, you are supposed to tip 20%.

You aren't "supposed" to tip any specific amount. Tipping is extra and at the discretion of the customer. This is such a racket.

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Anonymous wrote:No. You are already paying for their skill, time, and product. I would not tip an extra $60 plus for 2 hrs of service. I would leave a $20-30 tip. Servers are making $3/hr, food service in a restaurant is not comparable

Wrong! They could have had 4 customers in those 2 hours and would have made way more than $20-$30 in tips! I would not keep you as a client if you used my time and tipped that way.

And you work two customers at a time. If the salon takes 50%, you are still making nearly $600 in the OP example. If it takes you three hours, you’re making $200 an hour.

I thought in addition to salons taking half (or more), the stylist also has to pay to rent the chair?

Why is everyone begrudging stylists a good income? They are on their feet all day, basically independent contractors, have to deal with ups and downs in demand (not a steady income month to month) and it must be tough job dealing with people every day (esp people like the ones who post on this board). Sheesh.

You just described most jobs. Is $50 -$100 an hour not enough for cutting hair?

You should really direct your outrage at the profiteering of corporate America & CEOs -- hair stylists are small potatoes in the scheme of things.

Oh, honey, they get it too. And me covering their butts by compensating for their greed isn’t helpful. You demanding better pay from them would.

PP here. I am not a hair stylist - thanks, though. You sound like a peach.

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Anonymous wrote:No. You are already paying for their skill, time, and product. I would not tip an extra $60 plus for 2 hrs of service. I would leave a $20-30 tip. Servers are making $3/hr, food service in a restaurant is not comparable

Wrong! They could have had 4 customers in those 2 hours and would have made way more than $20-$30 in tips! I would not keep you as a client if you used my time and tipped that way.

And you work two customers at a time. If the salon takes 50%, you are still making nearly $600 in the OP example. If it takes you three hours, you’re making $200 an hour.

I thought in addition to salons taking half (or more), the stylist also has to pay to rent the chair?

Why is everyone begrudging stylists a good income? They are on their feet all day, basically independent contractors, have to deal with ups and downs in demand (not a steady income month to month) and it must be tough job dealing with people every day (esp people like the ones who post on this board). Sheesh.

You just described most jobs. Is $50 -$100 an hour not enough for cutting hair?

You should really direct your outrage at the profiteering of corporate America & CEOs -- hair stylists are small potatoes in the scheme of things.

Oh, honey, they get it too. And me covering their butts by compensating for their greed isn’t helpful. You demanding better pay from them would.