Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The second part of it is a bit disjointed.
However, she is on point saying you can be a contractor if you don't want to come in.
She is essentially right and what companies want is responsible employees.
Why are rental cars all double the price from a year ago? Why are all Airbnbs rented, also for double or triple price now?
The reason people need to be in the office is accountability. That you are working.
Let's be honest, productivity at home is not even close to productivy in office.
She knows it, you know it, we all know it.
Enough BS people. Show up for work or expect to be fired, in not too far of a future.

"Let's be honest, productivity at home is not even close to productivy in office."
LMAO, my producitivy will be cut by 2 hours when going back into work because of getting ready to work. commute etc..

Umm, you do realize that time isn’t considered working time. Nor is the time you spend during your current work day helping kids with zoom, doing laundry, and cooking.

Of course she doesn't! These lazy people think commute comes out of the working hours!
How many posts we had in the last year about how they can't manage the kids and working full time? Yet, now that the end of working from home is almost here, they all of a sudden are so productive from home?
Sure, they are remodeling their homes! During working hours!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gross. What a horrible CEO. And this is what she says in public. I can’t even imagine how she treats her employees when no one is looking.

What she is saying is that you have a job to do and you are not doing it. What she knows is that your are not working near as much as you used to in the office.
This spoiled crap of working from home needs to end. You are all fine with food service workers working in person the whole time. To serve YOU! But, you refuse to do the same in your profession.
Can't wait for all of you spoiled people to get fired.

I've been working at home for five years. You need to expand your horizons.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The best response I saw to this was that if your employees are spending 20 percent of their time on activities that "promote office culture," you should just institute a four-day workweek and you'd have the highest employee retention and satisfaction levels.

Amazing comment, standing ovation.

My thought when I read that 20% state was "Those extras are mostly done by the women in my office and that's exactly why so many women like telework. We can just do our jobs and not have to be the office mom, also."

I know it sounds mean and standoffish, but this is one of the reasons I never take part in office birthday parties, and if it's a pot luck (I think those are gone for good now), I'd bring in something easy like plates or drinks.

Women should never put themselves in the position of being office mom if they plan on climbing the career ladder. Men do not spend time bringing in homemade cookies and cupcakes. There is no reason we should take on that role.

Anonymous wrote:Gross. What a horrible CEO. And this is what she says in public. I can’t even imagine how she treats her employees when no one is looking.

What she is saying is that you have a job to do and you are not doing it. What she knows is that your are not working near as much as you used to in the office.
This spoiled crap of working from home needs to end. You are all fine with food service workers working in person the whole time. To serve YOU! But, you refuse to do the same in your profession.
Can't wait for all of you spoiled people to get fired.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The second part of it is a bit disjointed.
However, she is on point saying you can be a contractor if you don't want to come in.
She is essentially right and what companies want is responsible employees.
Why are rental cars all double the price from a year ago? Why are all Airbnbs rented, also for double or triple price now?
The reason people need to be in the office is accountability. That you are working.
Let's be honest, productivity at home is not even close to productivy in office.
She knows it, you know it, we all know it.
Enough BS people. Show up for work or expect to be fired, in not too far of a future.

"Let's be honest, productivity at home is not even close to productivy in office."
LMAO, my producitivy will be cut by 2 hours when going back into work because of getting ready to work. commute etc..

Umm, you do realize that time isn’t considered working time. Nor is the time you spend during your current work day helping kids with zoom, doing laundry, and cooking.

Anonymous wrote:The second part of it is a bit disjointed.
However, she is on point saying you can be a contractor if you don't want to come in.
She is essentially right and what companies want is responsible employees.
Why are rental cars all double the price from a year ago? Why are all Airbnbs rented, also for double or triple price now?
The reason people need to be in the office is accountability. That you are working.
Let's be honest, productivity at home is not even close to productivy in office.
She knows it, you know it, we all know it.
Enough BS people. Show up for work or expect to be fired, in not too far of a future.

Agree, people like working from home because it allows them to work less, not better. And there is some obvious sock puppeting in this thread.

Anonymous wrote:The second part of it is a bit disjointed.
However, she is on point saying you can be a contractor if you don't want to come in.
She is essentially right and what companies want is responsible employees.
Why are rental cars all double the price from a year ago? Why are all Airbnbs rented, also for double or triple price now?
The reason people need to be in the office is accountability. That you are working.
Let's be honest, productivity at home is not even close to productivy in office.
She knows it, you know it, we all know it.
Enough BS people. Show up for work or expect to be fired, in not too far of a future.

You think your productivity is helped when you are spending 90 minutes commuting each day. Commuting imposes huge societal costs, none of which this CEO acknowledges in her piece.

Cut out the commute and all the little office gabfests and there is a lot more time to get work done, see your kids, sleep a little later, etc. I think 100% work from home is extreme, but my office has definitely accomplished more with people working from home this past year.

Anonymous wrote:The second part of it is a bit disjointed.
However, she is on point saying you can be a contractor if you don't want to come in.
She is essentially right and what companies want is responsible employees.
Why are rental cars all double the price from a year ago? Why are all Airbnbs rented, also for double or triple price now?
The reason people need to be in the office is accountability. That you are working.
Let's be honest, productivity at home is not even close to productivy in office.
She knows it, you know it, we all know it.
Enough BS people. Show up for work or expect to be fired, in not too far of a future.

"Let's be honest, productivity at home is not even close to productivy in office."
LMAO, my producitivy will be cut by 2 hours when going back into work because of getting ready to work. commute etc..

Anonymous wrote:The second part of it is a bit disjointed.
However, she is on point saying you can be a contractor if you don't want to come in.
She is essentially right and what companies want is responsible employees.
Why are rental cars all double the price from a year ago? Why are all Airbnbs rented, also for double or triple price now?
The reason people need to be in the office is accountability. That you are working.
Let's be honest, productivity at home is not even close to productivy in office.
She knows it, you know it, we all know it.
Enough BS people. Show up for work or expect to be fired, in not too far of a future.

Reminds me of this guy who got caught driving on Zoom.

We all know people are taking advantage and not really focused on work while 'at' work from home.

Anonymous wrote:The second part of it is a bit disjointed.
However, she is on point saying you can be a contractor if you don't want to come in.
She is essentially right and what companies want is responsible employees.
Why are rental cars all double the price from a year ago? Why are all Airbnbs rented, also for double or triple price now?
The reason people need to be in the office is accountability. That you are working.
Let's be honest, productivity at home is not even close to productivy in office.
She knows it, you know it, we all know it.
Enough BS people. Show up for work or expect to be fired, in not too far of a future.

But you can show up for work at home, too. If people are getting their work done, why do you care if they are doing it from an Airbnb? What does it matter?

I have found it is actually much easier to gauge whether a worker is engaged and accountable when they are remote, because you have to rely on metrics like whether they meet deadlines, whether they show up to conference calls, and whether they are responsive and available when you need them. So basically, are they doing their actual job? If not, you find out pretty quick.

But in the office, this gets really muddied. If someone is sitting at their desk most of the day, but they are missing their deadlines, it's like "hmmm, is this a problem of them not having what they need or are they just messing around on the internet all day?" It's easier for someone who just messing around online and has poor organization skills to just say "Oh, this is taking me longer than I thought" and kind of weasel out of being productive, because after all, their butt is in their chair for the expected length of time every day.

Remote work makes work more like an actual job, instead of an attendance report. It's strips away a lot of the stuff that doesn't actually make the company any money or benefit anyone. It's truly the most efficient way to accomplish most white collar work. People who fight against it are really showing that it was never about productivity or getting work done for them. It's about controlling people.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The second part of it is a bit disjointed.
However, she is on point saying you can be a contractor if you don't want to come in.
She is essentially right and what companies want is responsible employees.
Why are rental cars all double the price from a year ago? Why are all Airbnbs rented, also for double or triple price now?
The reason people need to be in the office is accountability. That you are working.
Let's be honest, productivity at home is not even close to productivy in office.
She knows it, you know it, we all know it.
Enough BS people. Show up for work or expect to be fired, in not too far of a future.

This is simply not true. My productivity is higher at home. However, companies have to have good accountability programs/software. I have to submit a time sheet that isn't required for getting a pay check (non-exempt), but it is required for showing which projects and clients I'm working on each day. It's also used for renegotiating contract renewals.

I don't have a time sheet, but I do have work product and I produce far more at home. My hours are more irregular, but that works to my employer's benefit because I'm putting in more hours than I ever did in the office

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another example of why health care should not be tied to employment. So your employer can't threaten you with taking it away.

+ A FREAKING MILLION

Agree. She really showed her ass on this.

Anonymous wrote:The second part of it is a bit disjointed.
However, she is on point saying you can be a contractor if you don't want to come in.
She is essentially right and what companies want is responsible employees.
Why are rental cars all double the price from a year ago? Why are all Airbnbs rented, also for double or triple price now?
The reason people need to be in the office is accountability. That you are working.
Let's be honest, productivity at home is not even close to productivy in office.
She knows it, you know it, we all know it.
Enough BS people. Show up for work or expect to be fired, in not too far of a future.

This is simply not true. My productivity is higher at home. However, companies have to have good accountability programs/software. I have to submit a time sheet that isn't required for getting a pay check (non-exempt), but it is required for showing which projects and clients I'm working on each day. It's also used for renegotiating contract renewals.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The best response I saw to this was that if your employees are spending 20 percent of their time on activities that "promote office culture," you should just institute a four-day workweek and you'd have the highest employee retention and satisfaction levels.

Amazing comment, standing ovation.

My thought when I read that 20% state was "Those extras are mostly done by the women in my office and that's exactly why so many women like telework. We can just do our jobs and not have to be the office mom, also."

Yes! That's exactly right. I also think this is a big reason that you see such a generational difference in demand for work from home. Older workers are often very happy with this arrangement (including the women) because it's what they know. But younger workers, and especially younger women, see what's happening and want no part in it. A lot of workplace dynamics are messed up, but older workers can't see it because they are just used to it. Younger people see it and want no part.

The second part of it is a bit disjointed.
However, she is on point saying you can be a contractor if you don't want to come in.
She is essentially right and what companies want is responsible employees.
Why are rental cars all double the price from a year ago? Why are all Airbnbs rented, also for double or triple price now?
The reason people need to be in the office is accountability. That you are working.
Let's be honest, productivity at home is not even close to productivy in office.
She knows it, you know it, we all know it.
Enough BS people. Show up for work or expect to be fired, in not too far of a future.