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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the big hate in non wood windows.

It's a mix of snobbery and a lack of understanding that there's a massive difference between a prewar wavy glass window and a modern, overpriced wood window.

What’s snobby about preferring the product with greater longevity that also looks nicer?

Cause it is stupid. My old house I sold had wood windows. However the porch extension put in Back I’m 1991 had basic vinyl windows. I sold home in 2019. I noticed inspectors said windows are good by budget in 5-10 years possible replacement.

So that is 35 years life span. Wood costs double. So at 70 years maybe I have to replace vinyl a second time while wood still good. But at that point wood equals save price if vinyl since wood costs double. Now at year 105 I have to replace vinyl again so here is savings on wood.

But wait the wood would require painting, glazing, staining etc over these years the vinyl does not.

The average American lived in a home only 7 years. My last home I lived in 19 years.

But wood cause you like wood.

My mechanic used to say most new Honda buyers will pay more cause car will last 160k mikes vs a cheap Chevy that falls apart at 100k mikes. Yet trade them in every three years. They are paying more cause they like them, they ride better. But the cost benefit does not work.

I just relaxed all the old wood windows left with vinyl. I bought house and the five basement windows in well were switched to vinyl as well as all the bathrooms already. The wood crapped out after 40 years in those rooms and prior owner replaced. The ones left by 2019 were acting up

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the big hate in non wood windows.

It's a mix of snobbery and a lack of understanding that there's a massive difference between a prewar wavy glass window and a modern, overpriced wood window.

What’s snobby about preferring the product with greater longevity that also looks nicer?

Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the big hate in non wood windows.

No hate, but they are miles apart, especially in aesthetics. I bought a house that has custom wood/aluminum clad Marvin windows (to match originals in a historic house). It’s the number one thing people comment on, including passerbys when I am doing front yard work.

But, I think people should buy windows that match the general level of finish in the house. It’s weird to spend a ton of money on windows when all the other finishes are mid grade.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the big hate in non wood windows.

It's a mix of snobbery and a lack of understanding that there's a massive difference between a prewar wavy glass window and a modern, overpriced wood window.

It’s more about the character of wood versus vinyl, and for some the environment plays in too. A wood window can be repaired while a vinyl window will be chucked. You can also paint wood. And yeah there’s also snobbery. But I think people do understand that there’s a difference between much older wood windows and newer wood windows. On here, people always advocate trying to repair the older windows versus replacing with new wood windows.

We have Anderson 200 wood windows on a few windows and the rest have brand new fiberglass. Personally I prefer the wood and would love to have been able to afford doing the whole house in them. (Couldn’t get the husband on board.) I’ve always just liked wood. We have a wood deck too—even though composite is the thing to do and more expensive and therefore I guess “snobbier.” Although I guess ipe or cedar or redwood would have be the super high end thing to do.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the big hate in non wood windows.

It's a mix of snobbery and a lack of understanding that there's a massive difference between a prewar wavy glass window and a modern, overpriced wood window.

I don’t get the big hate in non wood windows.

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Anonymous wrote:Op, first you have to decide whether you want vinyl or wood and how high quality. Top of the line we windows are going to exceed $2000 window, at least during the current market.

OP here, I don't think I want to spend the money for wood. We have wood now, and our house is 25 years old. I guess over time they have expanded are all stuck, the springs cause them to open up unexpectedly. I don't want to spend $$$ though. I don't think when you have window treatments it will matter. Someone here can try to talk me out of it. I assumed that meant vinyl, but looks like I have some research to do on the diff. types. I don't live in a super old home, FWIW, only 25 yo

Hi OP! If you do decide you want to keep the wood, contact Josh Arnson. He’s incredibly kind, knowledgeable and affordable and will get your original wood windows sliding up and down like new. It took me a ton of research and lots of quotes before I found him and I’m so, so glad I did.

Josh Arnson
Colonel Josh Services L.L.C.
202-631-3376
cjsllc.org

OP here- Thank you! I would love to be able to repair them, seems wasteful to do that, but haven't found anyone interested/able. I will reach out

I mean seems wasteful to replace and not repair

I felt the same way! Josh got our windows to slide up and down like new and I love them again! Highly recommend

Anonymous wrote:Check out windows on Washington. We had a stellar experience with them after interviewing 4 companies we chose them.

I’d recommend against WoW. They were by far the most expensive bid of all the ones I got. Our salesman was wearing a giant watch and for good reason, he was making a killing. They aren’t making the windows and you can get the same windows elsewhere installed for less money. I had a quote for literally half his initial offer. When I showed it to him, he came down 20% immediately then a few days later I got an email offer for another 10% off. It was still 50% more than three other estimates I got for the same exact product.

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Anonymous wrote:Op, first you have to decide whether you want vinyl or wood and how high quality. Top of the line we windows are going to exceed $2000 window, at least during the current market.

OP here, I don't think I want to spend the money for wood. We have wood now, and our house is 25 years old. I guess over time they have expanded are all stuck, the springs cause them to open up unexpectedly. I don't want to spend $$$ though. I don't think when you have window treatments it will matter. Someone here can try to talk me out of it. I assumed that meant vinyl, but looks like I have some research to do on the diff. types. I don't live in a super old home, FWIW, only 25 yo

Hi OP! If you do decide you want to keep the wood, contact Josh Arnson. He’s incredibly kind, knowledgeable and affordable and will get your original wood windows sliding up and down like new. It took me a ton of research and lots of quotes before I found him and I’m so, so glad I did.

Josh Arnson
Colonel Josh Services L.L.C.
202-631-3376
cjsllc.org

OP here- Thank you! I would love to be able to repair them, seems wasteful to do that, but haven't found anyone interested/able. I will reach out

I mean seems wasteful to replace and not repair

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Op, first you have to decide whether you want vinyl or wood and how high quality. Top of the line we windows are going to exceed $2000 window, at least during the current market.

OP here, I don't think I want to spend the money for wood. We have wood now, and our house is 25 years old. I guess over time they have expanded are all stuck, the springs cause them to open up unexpectedly. I don't want to spend $$$ though. I don't think when you have window treatments it will matter. Someone here can try to talk me out of it. I assumed that meant vinyl, but looks like I have some research to do on the diff. types. I don't live in a super old home, FWIW, only 25 yo

Hi OP! If you do decide you want to keep the wood, contact Josh Arnson. He’s incredibly kind, knowledgeable and affordable and will get your original wood windows sliding up and down like new. It took me a ton of research and lots of quotes before I found him and I’m so, so glad I did.

Josh Arnson
Colonel Josh Services L.L.C.
202-631-3376
cjsllc.org

OP here- Thank you! I would love to be able to repair them, seems wasteful to do that, but haven't found anyone interested/able. I will reach out

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Anonymous wrote:Op, first you have to decide whether you want vinyl or wood and how high quality. Top of the line we windows are going to exceed $2000 window, at least during the current market.

A window does not cost 2k, not even top of the line. If you pay that price you used the wrong company.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Check out windows on Washington. We had a stellar experience with them after interviewing 4 companies we chose them.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op, first you have to decide whether you want vinyl or wood and how high quality. Top of the line we windows are going to exceed $2000 window, at least during the current market.

OP here, I don't think I want to spend the money for wood. We have wood now, and our house is 25 years old. I guess over time they have expanded are all stuck, the springs cause them to open up unexpectedly. I don't want to spend $$$ though. I don't think when you have window treatments it will matter. Someone here can try to talk me out of it. I assumed that meant vinyl, but looks like I have some research to do on the diff. types. I don't live in a super old home, FWIW, only 25 yo

Hi OP! If you do decide you want to keep the wood, contact Josh Arnson. He’s incredibly kind, knowledgeable and affordable and will get your original wood windows sliding up and down like new. It took me a ton of research and lots of quotes before I found him and I’m so, so glad I did.

Josh Arnson
Colonel Josh Services L.L.C.
202-631-3376
cjsllc.org

yes -- window salepeople are the same as used car dealers -- maybe worse. we had a good experience with thompson creek, but a horrible one with window nation. (opposite from an above poster.)

$2k / window is certainly in the realm for high quality installed wood double pane, true divided light windows