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Anonymous wrote:sounds like a cartel engaging in restraint of trade, I wonder if youth athletics is below the DoJs notice or if someone will decide that this is just too easy a win to pass up

Every league may have reasonable restrictions like this to enhance the quality of the league, even at the expense of unlimited competition for players. You could view prohibitions on payments to players through that lens. For some, it makes players slaves. For others, it makes them amateurs

The really nasty stuff is all in the MLS and FIFA rules, not MLS Next. MLS Territories, Homegrown player rules, FIFA Training compensation and solidarity payments - these really have teeth and if your kid is at DCU it's very likely no-one stopped to explain them to you and your kid is getting locked in by a set of rules which are very likely completely illegal.

For example, the FIFA rules can create a huge difference (>$500,000) to the cost of signing a US kid as compared to a local for a European club. The rules (both the domestic and international ones) are structured to ensure that the player can really only negotiate with a single club and thus ensure that the club, not facing realistic competition from other clubs, gets the best possible deal at the expense of the player.

no high school and approved tournaments only would make this a slam dunk if anyone cared to pursue it. MLS is terrified of the compensation rules being tested in an American court and they've backed down every time it's gotten close

Yeah - but if you're an aspiring player taking your potential employer to court before you land your first job may not be the smartest career move...

Maurice clarett among many others.

If he hadn't been terrible, it wouldn't have been an issue. Even with that, he was a third round pick and given an opportunity

Guy actually turned his life around lately... but yea- on topic- that’s a tough hill to climb!

Anyone know who will be coaching SYC 2007 MLS Next team next year?

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Anonymous wrote:So you're telling me that my DS, should he be good enough, could have the opportunity to play in either MLS Next or ECNL instead of CCL?

Sign me up.

SYC boys 2007 MLS next are at the bottom of the MLS teams.

Yeah I know right! DS is the top of his NCSL Div 2!!

DS is killing it in recreational!

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Anonymous wrote:sounds like a cartel engaging in restraint of trade, I wonder if youth athletics is below the DoJs notice or if someone will decide that this is just too easy a win to pass up

Every league may have reasonable restrictions like this to enhance the quality of the league, even at the expense of unlimited competition for players. You could view prohibitions on payments to players through that lens. For some, it makes players slaves. For others, it makes them amateurs

The really nasty stuff is all in the MLS and FIFA rules, not MLS Next. MLS Territories, Homegrown player rules, FIFA Training compensation and solidarity payments - these really have teeth and if your kid is at DCU it's very likely no-one stopped to explain them to you and your kid is getting locked in by a set of rules which are very likely completely illegal.

For example, the FIFA rules can create a huge difference (>$500,000) to the cost of signing a US kid as compared to a local for a European club. The rules (both the domestic and international ones) are structured to ensure that the player can really only negotiate with a single club and thus ensure that the club, not facing realistic competition from other clubs, gets the best possible deal at the expense of the player.

no high school and approved tournaments only would make this a slam dunk if anyone cared to pursue it. MLS is terrified of the compensation rules being tested in an American court and they've backed down every time it's gotten close

Yeah - but if you're an aspiring player taking your potential employer to court before you land your first job may not be the smartest career move...

Maurice clarett among many others.

If he hadn't been terrible, it wouldn't have been an issue. Even with that, he was a third round pick and given an opportunity

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:sounds like a cartel engaging in restraint of trade, I wonder if youth athletics is below the DoJs notice or if someone will decide that this is just too easy a win to pass up

Every league may have reasonable restrictions like this to enhance the quality of the league, even at the expense of unlimited competition for players. You could view prohibitions on payments to players through that lens. For some, it makes players slaves. For others, it makes them amateurs

The really nasty stuff is all in the MLS and FIFA rules, not MLS Next. MLS Territories, Homegrown player rules, FIFA Training compensation and solidarity payments - these really have teeth and if your kid is at DCU it's very likely no-one stopped to explain them to you and your kid is getting locked in by a set of rules which are very likely completely illegal.

For example, the FIFA rules can create a huge difference (>$500,000) to the cost of signing a US kid as compared to a local for a European club. The rules (both the domestic and international ones) are structured to ensure that the player can really only negotiate with a single club and thus ensure that the club, not facing realistic competition from other clubs, gets the best possible deal at the expense of the player.

no high school and approved tournaments only would make this a slam dunk if anyone cared to pursue it. MLS is terrified of the compensation rules being tested in an American court and they've backed down every time it's gotten close

Yeah - but if you're an aspiring player taking your potential employer to court before you land your first job may not be the smartest career move...

Maurice clarett among many others.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:sounds like a cartel engaging in restraint of trade, I wonder if youth athletics is below the DoJs notice or if someone will decide that this is just too easy a win to pass up

Every league may have reasonable restrictions like this to enhance the quality of the league, even at the expense of unlimited competition for players. You could view prohibitions on payments to players through that lens. For some, it makes players slaves. For others, it makes them amateurs

The really nasty stuff is all in the MLS and FIFA rules, not MLS Next. MLS Territories, Homegrown player rules, FIFA Training compensation and solidarity payments - these really have teeth and if your kid is at DCU it's very likely no-one stopped to explain them to you and your kid is getting locked in by a set of rules which are very likely completely illegal.

For example, the FIFA rules can create a huge difference (>$500,000) to the cost of signing a US kid as compared to a local for a European club. The rules (both the domestic and international ones) are structured to ensure that the player can really only negotiate with a single club and thus ensure that the club, not facing realistic competition from other clubs, gets the best possible deal at the expense of the player.

no high school and approved tournaments only would make this a slam dunk if anyone cared to pursue it. MLS is terrified of the compensation rules being tested in an American court and they've backed down every time it's gotten close

Yeah - but if you're an aspiring player taking your potential employer to court before you land your first job may not be the smartest career move...

Highschool soccer will go from mediocre to bottom of the barrel with all these players missing.

maybe some syc boys will choose ECNL over MLSNext due to high school rule?

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Anonymous wrote:sounds like a cartel engaging in restraint of trade, I wonder if youth athletics is below the DoJs notice or if someone will decide that this is just too easy a win to pass up

Every league may have reasonable restrictions like this to enhance the quality of the league, even at the expense of unlimited competition for players. You could view prohibitions on payments to players through that lens. For some, it makes players slaves. For others, it makes them amateurs

The really nasty stuff is all in the MLS and FIFA rules, not MLS Next. MLS Territories, Homegrown player rules, FIFA Training compensation and solidarity payments - these really have teeth and if your kid is at DCU it's very likely no-one stopped to explain them to you and your kid is getting locked in by a set of rules which are very likely completely illegal.

For example, the FIFA rules can create a huge difference (>$500,000) to the cost of signing a US kid as compared to a local for a European club. The rules (both the domestic and international ones) are structured to ensure that the player can really only negotiate with a single club and thus ensure that the club, not facing realistic competition from other clubs, gets the best possible deal at the expense of the player.

This would all be somewhat fine if the pro-affiliated youth teams compensated the kids in some manner to play for their club. Instead the kids parents have to pay. A complete racket. If your kid is essentially in the minor leagues they should be compensated. Else this is even worse than slavery. At least with slavery the owners provide food and housing and didn’t have the slave pay them for the honor of being their slave.

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Anonymous wrote:sounds like a cartel engaging in restraint of trade, I wonder if youth athletics is below the DoJs notice or if someone will decide that this is just too easy a win to pass up

Every league may have reasonable restrictions like this to enhance the quality of the league, even at the expense of unlimited competition for players. You could view prohibitions on payments to players through that lens. For some, it makes players slaves. For others, it makes them amateurs

The really nasty stuff is all in the MLS and FIFA rules, not MLS Next. MLS Territories, Homegrown player rules, FIFA Training compensation and solidarity payments - these really have teeth and if your kid is at DCU it's very likely no-one stopped to explain them to you and your kid is getting locked in by a set of rules which are very likely completely illegal.

For example, the FIFA rules can create a huge difference (>$500,000) to the cost of signing a US kid as compared to a local for a European club. The rules (both the domestic and international ones) are structured to ensure that the player can really only negotiate with a single club and thus ensure that the club, not facing realistic competition from other clubs, gets the best possible deal at the expense of the player.

no high school and approved tournaments only would make this a slam dunk if anyone cared to pursue it. MLS is terrified of the compensation rules being tested in an American court and they've backed down every time it's gotten close

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:sounds like a cartel engaging in restraint of trade, I wonder if youth athletics is below the DoJs notice or if someone will decide that this is just too easy a win to pass up

Every league may have reasonable restrictions like this to enhance the quality of the league, even at the expense of unlimited competition for players. You could view prohibitions on payments to players through that lens. For some, it makes players slaves. For others, it makes them amateurs

The really nasty stuff is all in the MLS and FIFA rules, not MLS Next. MLS Territories, Homegrown player rules, FIFA Training compensation and solidarity payments - these really have teeth and if your kid is at DCU it's very likely no-one stopped to explain them to you and your kid is getting locked in by a set of rules which are very likely completely illegal.

For example, the FIFA rules can create a huge difference (>$500,000) to the cost of signing a US kid as compared to a local for a European club. The rules (both the domestic and international ones) are structured to ensure that the player can really only negotiate with a single club and thus ensure that the club, not facing realistic competition from other clubs, gets the best possible deal at the expense of the player.

Anonymous wrote:MLS Next Rules and Regulations https://bsbproduction.s3.amazonaws.com/portals/116/docs/mls%20next%20rules%20and%20regulations%202020-2021%20-%20final%20-%209.8.20.pdf

A couple things jumped out at me from reading the MLS Next regulations PDF.

Club territory is dead – “No Club has exclusive territory rights. Clubs may recruit players for participation on Clubs from any geographic region.”

Unfortunately this text is immediately followed by: "These MLS NEXTRules do not in any supersede or invalidate any other territorial restrictions to which a Clubmay be subject" which essentially render the first text meaningless.

Anonymous wrote:sounds like a cartel engaging in restraint of trade, I wonder if youth athletics is below the DoJs notice or if someone will decide that this is just too easy a win to pass up

Every league may have reasonable restrictions like this to enhance the quality of the league, even at the expense of unlimited competition for players. You could view prohibitions on payments to players through that lens. For some, it makes players slaves. For others, it makes them amateurs

sounds like a cartel engaging in restraint of trade, I wonder if youth athletics is below the DoJs notice or if someone will decide that this is just too easy a win to pass up

MLS Next Rules and Regulations https://bsbproduction.s3.amazonaws.com/portals/116/docs/mls%20next%20rules%20and%20regulations%202020-2021%20-%20final%20-%209.8.20.pdf

A couple things jumped out at me from reading the MLS Next regulations PDF.

Club territory is dead – “No Club has exclusive territory rights. Clubs may recruit players for participation on Clubs from any geographic region.”

Clubs can play in outside tournaments – with permission and only in events that follow “the MLS NEXT Technical Framework and are in compliance with the standards outlined in the MLS NEXT Outside Competition Standards.”

No high school – “Club Players must agree to forgo participating simultaneously in both (1) MLS NEXT and (2) high school or middle school soccer.” Exceptions for soccer school scholarship players.

Full-Time players can only be added once a year – “Clubs will have one period during the MLS NEXT Season (September 1, 2020 through April 2, 2021) at which time Players may be added as full-time”

18 player on game-day roster – “For U-13 through U-19 MLS NEXT Games, only 18 Players from the Roster will be eligible to participate in each Game, and these Players must be placed on the Game Day Roster”
Recommended starts and minutes – players “are recommended but not required to start in at least 25% of their Club’s MLS NEXT Games during the season. Additionally, we recommend that U-13, U-14 and U-15 players participate in 50% of the minutes played each season in their age group.”

Game Length – U16-U19 45s minute halves. U15-U15 40 minute halves, U13 35 minute halves.

Limited subs moments and no re-entry – U14 to U19 “unlimited substitutions over three (3) moments in the game, plus half time with no re-entry after exiting the match.: U13 “Unlimited substitutions over three (3) moments per half, plus half time, with no re-entry per half.”