My husband graduated from Villanova Engineering 30 years ago. He's done very well and liked his time at the school.

Anonymous wrote:It shouldn't be we or us. Let them decide what they want and support their decision even if it isn't what you want.

My god, some of you are insufferable. Maybe the kid trusts their parents to collaborate on this decision? You have no idea, but here you are spouting your nonsense.

Anonymous wrote:Has he visited them?
I have a kid at Lehigh, so I’m a little biased, but they feel very different, and a student might prefer one environment over another.

Exactly. Villanova’s engineering program is relatively new. It offers a close-knit community and is overwhelmingly Catholic as it is a Catholic school. My sense is it skews a bit conservative. Villanova is much more well known than Lehigh nationally, although few recognize their engineering program. It is located in an affluent suburb.

Lehigh was first established as an Engineering school, so the program is well known, particularly in the Mid-Atlantic and NY/NJ/CT area. About 15% of the population is Jewish. Lehigh’s social policy has been in turmoil as the administration cracks down on fraternities. This is expected to continue under the new President, a Lehigh grad who was not a fraternity member. He is currently provost at Dartmouth. Lehigh’s campus is bordered by a not so great area - there is some crime impacting students, such as theft and break-ins.

Look at the Outcomes reports for both Engineering Schools. Looks like Lehigh has better placement with prestigious employers like Google, who is not listed on the Villanova report.

Hope this helps. Congrats to your son!

Lehigh. Dartmouth’s Provost Helble is the new President.

In his 16 years at Dartmouth, Helble brought prominence to Thayer School of Engineering while serving as the school's dean and a professor of engineering, and for the past year has led the institution's response to the COVID-19 pandemic.

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Anonymous wrote:I work with several Lehigh engineers, none from Villanova. I didn’t know Villanova had engineering.

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Engineer from PA

How this is supposed to be helpful is beyond me.

Because Villanova is not really known for their engineering and Lehigh is?

According to their CDSs, 13% of recent Villanova grads received engineering degrees, vs. 26% for Lehigh.

That’s not the same as ‘I don’t know anyone’. What percentage of kids receive engineering degrees at Ohio State? It sure isn’t 26%. Does that somehow mean it’s a lousy engineering school. It’s still not important.

And it's not the same as "I didn't even know Villanova offered engineering".

I grew up around there and knew a ton of kids who went to Nova, but none were engineering. It just wasn't discussed with my nerdy engineering friends. I legit didn't even know they had an engineering program.

What you legit don’t know doesn’t mean anything. I didn’t realize that Northwestern has engineering but it does. Is that supposed to mean something?

It means that the engineering program is obscure.

Okay so the Northwestern engineering program in my example is “obscure”. It’s also elite. So now we agree that obscure doesn’t matter.

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Anonymous wrote:I work with several Lehigh engineers, none from Villanova. I didn’t know Villanova had engineering.

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Engineer from PA

How this is supposed to be helpful is beyond me.

Because Villanova is not really known for their engineering and Lehigh is?

According to their CDSs, 13% of recent Villanova grads received engineering degrees, vs. 26% for Lehigh.

That’s not the same as ‘I don’t know anyone’. What percentage of kids receive engineering degrees at Ohio State? It sure isn’t 26%. Does that somehow mean it’s a lousy engineering school. It’s still not important.

And it's not the same as "I didn't even know Villanova offered engineering".

I grew up around there and knew a ton of kids who went to Nova, but none were engineering. It just wasn't discussed with my nerdy engineering friends. I legit didn't even know they had an engineering program.

What you legit don’t know doesn’t mean anything. I didn’t realize that Northwestern has engineering but it does. Is that supposed to mean something?

It means that the engineering program is obscure.

Lehigh’s Engineering and Business schools are very strong, and they have a strong and loyal alumni network throughout the northeast.

Lehigh alum here, so I’m biased.. but I loved my time there. Such a great engineering school and known for it.

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Anonymous wrote:I work with several Lehigh engineers, none from Villanova. I didn’t know Villanova had engineering.

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Engineer from PA

How this is supposed to be helpful is beyond me.

Because Villanova is not really known for their engineering and Lehigh is?

According to their CDSs, 13% of recent Villanova grads received engineering degrees, vs. 26% for Lehigh.

That’s not the same as ‘I don’t know anyone’. What percentage of kids receive engineering degrees at Ohio State? It sure isn’t 26%. Does that somehow mean it’s a lousy engineering school. It’s still not important.

And it's not the same as "I didn't even know Villanova offered engineering".

I grew up around there and knew a ton of kids who went to Nova, but none were engineering. It just wasn't discussed with my nerdy engineering friends. I legit didn't even know they had an engineering program.

What you legit don’t know doesn’t mean anything. I didn’t realize that Northwestern has engineering but it does. Is that supposed to mean something?

Anonymous wrote:Make sure wherever he/she goes has other majors they are interested in in case the engineering doesn’t work out. Lots of kids enthusiastically start the engineering major and then discover how hard it is and need to find another major.

Very good point

I don’t know anything about Villanova, but if your dc is female, go with Lehigh. There are so many amazing young women in their engineering program. My daughter is at Lehigh and half of her sorority sisters are engineering majors.

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Anonymous wrote:I work with several Lehigh engineers, none from Villanova. I didn’t know Villanova had engineering.

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Engineer from PA

How this is supposed to be helpful is beyond me.

Because Villanova is not really known for their engineering and Lehigh is?

According to their CDSs, 13% of recent Villanova grads received engineering degrees, vs. 26% for Lehigh.

That’s not the same as ‘I don’t know anyone’. What percentage of kids receive engineering degrees at Ohio State? It sure isn’t 26%. Does that somehow mean it’s a lousy engineering school. It’s still not important.

And it's not the same as "I didn't even know Villanova offered engineering".

I grew up around there and knew a ton of kids who went to Nova, but none were engineering. It just wasn't discussed with my nerdy engineering friends. I legit didn't even know they had an engineering program.

Anonymous wrote:The Catholicism/conservatism run deep at villanova - as much as they pretend this not to be the case.

This. When we visited in 2019 there were trump flags and don’t tread on me flags hung in a few dorm windows so they could be seen from the outside. Big turn off.

Lehigh all the way.
Better program, better job placement, and a party every night of the week if you want it.

The Catholicism/conservatism run deep at villanova - as much as they pretend this not to be the case.