Anonymous
04/23/2021 20:26
Subject: People treating the news that schools are cancelling AP classes as if it’s completely normal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nobody is canceling AP classes in DC. Wilson is requiring all kids in 11th grade take AP English and AP US History and people are freaking out about it because they assume (without evidence) that this means it won't be a "real" AP class. Of course, it will, because the College Board has to approve the curriculum/syllabus in order for it to be an AP class.
It's an effort to deal with a substantial segregation issue at Wilson with regard to which kids take AP classes and which don't. If it is to be successful, Wilson will have to devote a lot of resources to supporting some of these kids and it's not clear that they have a plan for doing so but time will tell. But MANY people are assuming it will be a disaster without giving it a chance.
If anything at all, not matter what, Wilson will have to devote a lot of resources to support the kids who are several grades behind. That has absolutely nothing to do with the whiteness of a certain classroom and whether advanced classes are racist.
Wilson should be held accountable for catching up its weakest students.
"AP for all" after what this forum has reported on "Honors for all" is just an enormous cruel trick on everyone. It sidesteps entirely the system's primary responsibility. You want more disadvantaged youth in AP? Tutor hothouse them until they can figuratively beat the shit out of that AP class. Come on, you can do it!
At the very least, if you're gonna have "varsity basketball for all," there should be a mini-trampoline next to the basket to accommodate the short, fat kids. You know, some kind of supports for them so they are able to keep up with the rest of the team. If you don't have that, then the team...kind of sucks.
Anonymous
04/23/2021 20:26
Subject: People treating the news that schools are cancelling AP classes as if it’s completely normal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nobody is canceling AP classes in DC. Wilson is requiring all kids in 11th grade take AP English and AP US History and people are freaking out about it because they assume (without evidence) that this means it won't be a "real" AP class. Of course, it will, because the College Board has to approve the curriculum/syllabus in order for it to be an AP class.
It's an effort to deal with a substantial segregation issue at Wilson with regard to which kids take AP classes and which don't. If it is to be successful, Wilson will have to devote a lot of resources to supporting some of these kids and it's not clear that they have a plan for doing so but time will tell. But MANY people are assuming it will be a disaster without giving it a chance.
If anything at all, not matter what, Wilson will have to devote a lot of resources to support the kids who are several grades behind. That has absolutely nothing to do with the whiteness of a certain classroom and whether advanced classes are racist.
Wilson should be held accountable for catching up its weakest students.
"AP for all" after what this forum has reported on "Honors for all" is just an enormous cruel trick on everyone. It sidesteps entirely the system's primary responsibility. You want more disadvantaged youth in AP? Tutor hothouse them until they can figuratively beat the shit out of that AP class. Come on, you can do it!
Same poster. Tutor hothouse them *before* putting them in an AP, until they belong.
Announcing 'AP for all because current AP is too white" is admitting how much you suck at catching up your students who need you most. Focus on sucking less.
Anonymous
04/23/2021 20:21
Subject: People treating the news that schools are cancelling AP classes as if it’s completely normal
Anonymous wrote:Nobody is canceling AP classes in DC. Wilson is requiring all kids in 11th grade take AP English and AP US History and people are freaking out about it because they assume (without evidence) that this means it won't be a "real" AP class. Of course, it will, because the College Board has to approve the curriculum/syllabus in order for it to be an AP class.
It's an effort to deal with a substantial segregation issue at Wilson with regard to which kids take AP classes and which don't. If it is to be successful, Wilson will have to devote a lot of resources to supporting some of these kids and it's not clear that they have a plan for doing so but time will tell. But MANY people are assuming it will be a disaster without giving it a chance.
If anything at all, not matter what, Wilson will have to devote a lot of resources to support the kids who are several grades behind. That has absolutely nothing to do with the whiteness of a certain classroom and whether advanced classes are racist.
Wilson should be held accountable for catching up its weakest students.
"AP for all" after what this forum has reported on "Honors for all" is just an enormous cruel trick on everyone. It sidesteps entirely the system's primary responsibility. You want more disadvantaged youth in AP? Tutor hothouse them until they can figuratively beat the shit out of that AP class. Come on, you can do it!
Anonymous
04/23/2021 20:15
Subject: People treating the news that schools are cancelling AP classes as if it’s completely normal
This was the plot of the animated movie ‘the incredibles.’ It’s so weird that it has come true in life.
It also smacks of desperation, and does nothing for the urms but set them up for failure.
It also smacks of desperation, and does nothing for the urms but set them up for failure.
Anonymous
04/23/2021 20:10
Subject: People treating the news that schools are cancelling AP classes as if it’s completely normal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yet another thread for folks to freak out on. 🙄 Including all students in AP classes is not cancelling AP classes.
Oooo. So Orwellian.
Eek. I don’t think you understand what “Orwellian” means.
That poster perfectly grasps what Orwellian means. Their grasp is Double Plus Good as you might say.
Why are only some people brilliant? Isn't everyone brilliant, if you really think about it?
No one is equally brilliant, though we can all potentially be brilliant in different ways. All humans are born with different gifts that should be explored and enhanced, imo, but we need a government that is willing to do that for them. Problem is, the kids who are born with the potential to be really good at certain academic subjects...DCPS not care so much.
You know what else is crazy? Why do the people on high school basketball teams have to be good?
Why can't the kids who are completely terrible be on the team too? All humans are born with different gifts that should be explored and that means the kids who are short, fat and totally uncoordinated should be given the same chance to start for the high school basketball team as the kids are who quote unquote good at basketball.
I mean. who is even to say who is good at basketball? Isn't that in the eye of the beholder? Why isn't the short, fat kid better at basketball than, say, Michael Jordan? Who, really, is to judge?
Varsity for All!
Anonymous
04/23/2021 19:58
Subject: Re:People treating the news that schools are cancelling AP classes as if it’s completely normal
LOL that College Board sets the curriculum so all AP classes are the same. The ability of the students and teacher is what really determines the rigor or whether it's a joke.
No wonder teachers are overwhelmed. Our expectations of them are getting ridiculous.
No wonder teachers are overwhelmed. Our expectations of them are getting ridiculous.
Anonymous
04/23/2021 19:41
Subject: People treating the news that schools are cancelling AP classes as if it’s completely normal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yet another thread for folks to freak out on. 🙄 Including all students in AP classes is not cancelling AP classes.
Oooo. So Orwellian.
Eek. I don’t think you understand what “Orwellian” means.
That poster perfectly grasps what Orwellian means. Their grasp is Double Plus Good as you might say.
Why are only some people brilliant? Isn't everyone brilliant, if you really think about it?
No one is equally brilliant, though we can all potentially be brilliant in different ways. All humans are born with different gifts that should be explored and enhanced, imo, but we need a government that is willing to do that for them. Problem is, the kids who are born with the potential to be really good at certain academic subjects...DCPS not care so much.
You know what else is crazy? Why do the people on high school basketball teams have to be good?
Why can't the kids who are completely terrible be on the team too? All humans are born with different gifts that should be explored and that means the kids who are short, fat and totally uncoordinated should be given the same chance to start for the high school basketball team as the kids are who quote unquote good at basketball.
I mean. who is even to say who is good at basketball? Isn't that in the eye of the beholder? Why isn't the short, fat kid better at basketball than, say, Michael Jordan? Who, really, is to judge?
Anonymous
04/23/2021 19:27
Subject: People treating the news that schools are cancelling AP classes as if it’s completely normal
Anonymous wrote:Nobody is canceling AP classes in DC. Wilson is requiring all kids in 11th grade take AP English and AP US History and people are freaking out about it because they assume (without evidence) that this means it won't be a "real" AP class. Of course, it will, because the College Board has to approve the curriculum/syllabus in order for it to be an AP class.
It's an effort to deal with a substantial segregation issue at Wilson with regard to which kids take AP classes and which don't. If it is to be successful, Wilson will have to devote a lot of resources to supporting some of these kids and it's not clear that they have a plan for doing so but time will tell. But MANY people are assuming it will be a disaster without giving it a chance.
What you fail to note is the objection many have to the fact that this is what DCPS is focused on. Kids literally have been out of school for a year. Many are far behind with standard course load and academics. Instead of focusing on resources to help these kids out - AP for All.
What the heck sense does this make? None. This is a knee jerk, put us on the news for our woke policy, garbage.
Anonymous
04/23/2021 19:06
Subject: People treating the news that schools are cancelling AP classes as if it’s completely normal
wow, for once, MCPS is managing this one better.
Anonymous
04/23/2021 18:54
Subject: Re:People treating the news that schools are cancelling AP classes as if it’s completely normal
Anonymous wrote:AP sets the curriculum. That doesn’t mean the curriculum gets presented well or in full.
Exactly this. Our local HS requires AP English for all juniors. But the class doesn't cover enough material to truly prepare students for the test. So most kids don't end up taking the test. Those who do need to study quite a bit on their own.
Anonymous
04/23/2021 18:41
Subject: Re:People treating the news that schools are cancelling AP classes as if it’s completely normal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The old policy was anyone who wanted to could take AP.
The new police is *everyone* *will* take AP.
Some of the PPs are rambling on about the old policy.
Then it’s not a real ap class. Can we just say our loud that putting poorly performing students with advanced students is not a good idea? Isn’t this obvious to everyone? Can’t they just critically reason in their minds about what the ultimate ramifications will be? Less qualified students, more kids leaving to go private causing more brain drain in public schools, and ultimately a less prepared country to handle the rigors of the 21st century. And then we have posters on here using euphemisms and clinical, sterile jargon and buzzwords to frame these changes.
It’s only AP if there is a velvet rope and a bouncer? Because if everyone is special than no one is special.
Anonymous
04/23/2021 18:38
Subject: People treating the news that schools are cancelling AP classes as if it’s completely normal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yet another thread for folks to freak out on. 🙄 Including all students in AP classes is not cancelling AP classes.
Oooo. So Orwellian.
Eek. I don’t think you understand what “Orwellian” means.
PP didn’t take AP English apparently.
PP took AP English for all.
Anonymous
04/23/2021 18:36
Subject: People treating the news that schools are cancelling AP classes as if it’s completely normal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yet another thread for folks to freak out on. 🙄 Including all students in AP classes is not cancelling AP classes.
Oooo. So Orwellian.
Eek. I don’t think you understand what “Orwellian” means.
PP didn’t take AP English apparently.
Anonymous
04/23/2021 18:25
Subject: People treating the news that schools are cancelling AP classes as if it’s completely normal
Anonymous wrote:Nobody is canceling AP classes in DC. Wilson is requiring all kids in 11th grade take AP English and AP US History and people are freaking out about it because they assume (without evidence) that this means it won't be a "real" AP class. Of course, it will, because the College Board has to approve the curriculum/syllabus in order for it to be an AP class.
It's an effort to deal with a substantial segregation issue at Wilson with regard to which kids take AP classes and which don't. If it is to be successful, Wilson will have to devote a lot of resources to supporting some of these kids and it's not clear that they have a plan for doing so but time will tell. But MANY people are assuming it will be a disaster without giving it a chance.
Even you acknowledge that it would require substantial additional resources. Absent any evidence of a plan for those additional resources, assuming disaster seems like the logical conclusion. Burden of proof is on them to show they've thought this through and have more of a plan than a name for the classes.
Anonymous
04/23/2021 18:15
Subject: People treating the news that schools are cancelling AP classes as if it’s completely normal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yet another thread for folks to freak out on. 🙄 Including all students in AP classes is not cancelling AP classes.
Oooo. So Orwellian.
Eek. I don’t think you understand what “Orwellian” means.
That poster perfectly grasps what Orwellian means. Their grasp is Double Plus Good as you might say.
Why are only some people brilliant? Isn't everyone brilliant, if you really think about it?
No one is equally brilliant, though we can all potentially be brilliant in different ways. All humans are born with different gifts that should be explored and enhanced, imo, but we need a government that is willing to do that for them. Problem is, the kids who are born with the potential to be really good at certain academic subjects...DCPS not care so much.
You have very thoroughly demonstrated an example of what the PP was only alluding to with sarcasm.