Anonymous
Post 04/23/2021 11:48     Subject: Do you agree with this undergrad list
ALso, Swarthmore probably provides better undergraduate education than Penn CAS.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2021 11:46     Subject: Do you agree with this undergrad list
Anonymous wrote:My personal list:

1. HYPSM
2. Columbia, Caltech, Wharton
3. Chicago, Penn (non-Wharton)
4. Duke, Northwestern
5. Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth, JHU
6. Amherst, Williams, Swarthmore, Pomona


This list sounds quite reasonable. Thankyou.

However, Brown, Dartmouth, Amherst and Williams should be ahead of Penn CAS. Penn CAS is not special in comparison.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2021 11:44     Subject: Do you agree with this undergrad list
My personal list:

1. HYPSM
2. Columbia, Caltech, Wharton
3. Chicago, Penn (non-Wharton)
4. Duke, Northwestern
5. Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth, JHU
6. Amherst, Williams, Swarthmore, Pomona
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2021 11:43     Subject: Do you agree with this undergrad list
How did that happen to Dartmouth ? A beautiful campus.
hard to believe. Too many athletes recruited ?

It has to bebetter than Penn CAS
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2021 11:41     Subject: Re:Do you agree with this undergrad list
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No...


Best undergraduate, I changed my mind a bit...
1. Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, MIT, Yale

1b. Columbia, Caltech, Upenn, U Chicago

2. Duke, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins, Dartmouth

2b. Brown, Williams, Amherst

3?. Vanderbilt, Cornell, Swarthmore, Rice, Pomona,

3b?. Emory, Notre Dame, WashU, Georgetown, Bowdoin, UCLA, UCB, CMU

4. UVA, Umich, Tufts, Wellesley, USC, UNC, CMC

I think 3 and 3b is splitting hairs.





This list holds pretty well. I’d move all of 2b up to 2 with Dartmouth (and Pomona), and move down Hopkins and Northwestern to 2B



Don't think Dartmouth / Pomona should move up. Dartmouth has been in secular decline for years and has cemented position as the bottom ivy
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2021 11:40     Subject: Do you agree with this undergrad list
Then, what are you doing on this baord and investing your time reading the comments?
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2021 11:40     Subject: Re:Do you agree with this undergrad list
Anonymous wrote:No...


Best undergraduate, I changed my mind a bit...
1. Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, MIT, Yale

1b. Columbia, Caltech, Upenn, U Chicago

2. Duke, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins, Dartmouth

2b. Brown, Williams, Amherst

3?. Vanderbilt, Cornell, Swarthmore, Rice, Pomona,

3b?. Emory, Notre Dame, WashU, Georgetown, Bowdoin, UCLA, UCB, CMU

4. UVA, Umich, Tufts, Wellesley, USC, UNC, CMC

I think 3 and 3b is splitting hairs.


List looks good. I would move JHU and Dartmouth down to 2b.

Anonymous
Post 04/23/2021 11:35     Subject: Do you agree with this undergrad list
Anonymous wrote:Add me to the chorus: If you think this is useful, practical or accurate in any way you are severely misguided and don’t understand anything about college, it’s value, or admissions.

If you are doing this as a parlor game it’s a dumb one played by idiots.


+1

Anonymous
Post 04/23/2021 11:35     Subject: Do you agree with this undergrad list
What about UMD and Virginia Tech?

Also, I think Emory should be grouped under 1, just based on the reputation of their Engineering program.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2021 11:35     Subject: Do you agree with this undergrad list
Anonymous wrote:Best for what?


+1

Anonymous
Post 04/23/2021 11:34     Subject: Do you agree with this undergrad list
Anonymous wrote:Add me to the chorus: If you think this is useful, practical or accurate in any way you are severely misguided and don’t understand anything about college, it’s value, or admissions.

If you are doing this as a parlor game it’s a dumb one played by idiots.


Maybe, but as far as parlor games go, it is one of the better ones. ...Especially when mega-millions of dollars are spent by companies to compile lists that are devoured by much of the world ( students and parents), which is a veritable gold mine in interest and publicity.

Meanwhile, as an adult male I am reading this nonsense because I am stuck with no date, let alone a hot one for this evening.

Anonymous
Post 04/23/2021 11:33     Subject: Do you agree with this undergrad list
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Best undergraduate
1. Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, MIT, Yale

1b. Columbia, Caltech, Upenn, U Chicago

2. Duke, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins

2b. Dartmouth, Brown


Based on what?


Are you new here?


Not at all. Just enjoy hearing tortured rationalizations.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2021 11:30     Subject: Re:Do you agree with this undergrad list
Anonymous wrote:No...


Best undergraduate, I changed my mind a bit...
1. Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, MIT, Yale

1b. Columbia, Caltech, Upenn, U Chicago

2. Duke, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins, Dartmouth

2b. Brown, Williams, Amherst

3?. Vanderbilt, Cornell, Swarthmore, Rice, Pomona,

3b?. Emory, Notre Dame, WashU, Georgetown, Bowdoin, UCLA, UCB, CMU

4. UVA, Umich, Tufts, Wellesley, USC, UNC, CMC

I think 3 and 3b is splitting hairs.





This list holds pretty well. I’d move all of 2b up to 2 with Dartmouth (and Pomona), and move down Hopkins and Northwestern to 2B
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2021 11:28     Subject: Do you agree with this undergrad list
Add me to the chorus: If you think this is useful, practical or accurate in any way you are severely misguided and don’t understand anything about college, it’s value, or admissions.

If you are doing this as a parlor game it’s a dumb one played by idiots.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2021 11:25     Subject: Do you agree with this undergrad list
I knew a psychiatrist who over 50 years later still thought about these lists and made believe even half a century later that he was accepted to tier 1, even though he wasn't.