Anonymous wrote:as seniors, right? Not so much before that. Plus the expectations on non-rev coaches has dramatically increased with youth industry. For example, Dorrance used to coach men and women, I believe, back in the late 80s. Probably out of a broom closet. Just look at year to year attrition for girls soccer rosters at some school. They bring in a load of dream seeking freshman (mostly their parents) and there's usually a handful of seniors left. Greek is impossible at any D1 school, even non-P5. I bet it'seven so at D2. The college soccer thing is not as advertised through the youth industry and especially if you aren't in a national league. I'm not saying take my word, I just said gather your facts straight from college coaches and players at ID camps. They'll tell the kids straight out what the life and expectations will be.

What the hell does this or the PP have to do with a new soccer club splitting from Herndon?

as seniors, right? Not so much before that. Plus the expectations on non-rev coaches has dramatically increased with youth industry. For example, Dorrance used to coach men and women, I believe, back in the late 80s. Probably out of a broom closet. Just look at year to year attrition for girls soccer rosters at some school. They bring in a load of dream seeking freshman (mostly their parents) and there's usually a handful of seniors left. Greek is impossible at any D1 school, even non-P5. I bet it'seven so at D2. The college soccer thing is not as advertised through the youth industry and especially if you aren't in a national league. I'm not saying take my word, I just said gather your facts straight from college coaches and players at ID camps. They'll tell the kids straight out what the life and expectations will be.

I went to a DIAA school and knew tons of happy non-rev athletes (all of them at our school since football and basketball operated at a loss). Most were in frats and sororities and they hit the bars with the rest of us as seniors.

The pay to play youth sports industry (i.e. non-revenue/Title IX college sports) operates on the naive dreams of kids and (mostly) parents... the adrenaline flows at the sight of adidas/UA-sweated college coaches roaming the fields at showcase tournaments. What school are they from?...are they coming to our field?...quick...a flyer! Granted, it is very exciting.

The problem is there is no distinction between the laborious commitment expected from revenue and non-revenue jox in college. Every coach for every sport has to justify their existence, so the non-revs approach their job as if the NFL or NBA were on the line. I used to hope non-revs were run like a youth club. Not at all. The ID camps are a great glimpse at reality...players and a few coaches lay it on the line in those settings. Me, personally, i never saw a current college player who was helping with camps smile. It kind of struck me. But they do tell the kids be prepared to eat, drink, sleep soccer...if you're not, you will fail. After-all. they don't want to commit kids who will decide they don't want to be tied to it. My kid once told me 18-22 doesn't come back. It is indeed the life for some, I think that's really how recruiting operates. For the kid who is willing to play in the ECNL or whatever national level leagues, there is more shot they won't question the college life. For an athletic kid at a lower level league, they don't reach out. The system ~works~. You just have to know if your kid is in long term and if you want to try out for those national leagues and commit the resources. I've heard of social misery even from D2 and D3 players.

The college thing just needs perspective and it's hard to not get sucked up into something you, as a parent, probably wouldn't do between 18-22.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are a strong player at Herndon, you will move with Nadir to DMV FC. If you are a strong player at GFR, you will move to DMV FC. MU is no longer a serious platform so players there will weigh playing with a weak team in a weak league with playing for a coach with a track-record of placing players in college. On the girls side, if NM can formalize a relationship with McLean ECNL, he will have the best non-ECNL/GA club in the region.

Hah. I doubt it. Breakaway clubs typically struggle and collapse fairly quickly. Don't get me wrong - I think the total futbol coaching is very good. But this split is going to end in tears for everyone - and more fool HYS for instigating it.

Why would McLean want anything to do with this?

Anonymous wrote:If you are a strong player at Herndon, you will move with Nadir to DMV FC. If you are a strong player at GFR, you will move to DMV FC. MU is no longer a serious platform so players there will weigh playing with a weak team in a weak league with playing for a coach with a track-record of placing players in college. On the girls side, if NM can formalize a relationship with McLean ECNL, he will have the best non-ECNL/GA club in the region.

Hah. I doubt it. Breakaway clubs typically struggle and collapse fairly quickly. Don't get me wrong - I think the total futbol coaching is very good. But this split is going to end in tears for everyone - and more fool HYS for instigating it.

Anonymous wrote:IMO this is sure to fail and Nadir & staff are all about $$$.

And he knows parents here are suckers.


Stop sustaining the lives of individuals who wouldn’t amount to more than a cash register if it weren’t for this bloated and festered youth soccer pay to play Ponzi scheme

Posters have said the mys gfr merger broke down over Wanting TF/N out.
Can someone explain why they wanted that? Seems like it just happened

If you are a strong player at Herndon, you will move with Nadir to DMV FC. If you are a strong player at GFR, you will move to DMV FC. MU is no longer a serious platform so players there will weigh playing with a weak team in a weak league with playing for a coach with a track-record of placing players in college. On the girls side, if NM can formalize a relationship with McLean ECNL, he will have the best non-ECNL/GA club in the region.

This will likely sustain and then probably combine with another club in a few years

IMO this is sure to fail and Nadir & staff are all about $$$.

Anonymous wrote:what league are they planning to play in? or just tournaments?

Who cares. It’ll die soon

what league are they planning to play in? or just tournaments?

Anonymous wrote:Is there a coach that has placed more kids in college in the past five years than NM? I am not on a TF or McLean team but give the guy his due.

lol he only coaches the oldest age group. Place me there and In five years I’ll have the same placement numbers.


Geez.... these amerikanz

Is there a coach that has placed more kids in college in the past five years than NM? I am not on a TF or McLean team but give the guy his due.