Anonymous
Post 04/18/2021 14:36     Subject: Re:When does the "not great kid" finally hang it up
I can’t wait! My kids are in the good category - starters first team, but I’ve now reached the “No F@cks to Give” stage of youth soccer with a U16&U13. Other than seeing my kids play well and have fun- I don’t give a sh@t about the games. I don’t care if there is a bad call or we lose or anything.

I have zero tolerance for all the screaming D-bags on the sidelines. Dude, this doesn’t matter.

I especially have reached the point of zero tolerance listening to people yelling at kids that are not their own (even if neither is one of my own). Wtf? These aren’t paid FIFA players—sit down and shut the f@ck up.

I can be zen like most of the game, but I do wonder when I will just snap as I have reached my breaking point and in true Comedy Central Roast style dress down every one of these mutha f—ers. Bam. Mic drop.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2021 14:12     Subject: When does the "not great kid" finally hang it up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When does the "not so good kid" finally get to the point where their parent stops paying for club soccer? When the roster expands and the number of teams shrinks? When middle and high school sports take affect? Our team has a couple kids who just aren't at the same level and the coach gives them equal playing time (as he should).


It doesn't make sense to me. I'm glad kids are playing sports but why is every kid in travel? We have a handful of unskilled, slow, overweight kids who should be playing rec. It's pretty obvious that they're terrible but parents insist on continuing travel. They'd be well positioned and sufficiently challenged in a lower league so why bring the whole team down? The biggest issue now is that you cannot say that some kids are better than others, or that another kids sucks. For some reason, everyone needs a medal and we can't hurt anyone's feelings. Parents, if your kid has man boobs, sports might not be for him. Your kid might not be good at soccer but could be great at programming, violin, languages, debate or a myriad of other things. I don't understand why we need to insist that all kids are good at all things. They're not and we should be honest about it.

OP, if your kid is a good player you either have to tough it out with your current team or try-out elsewhere. You'll have to decide whether the longer drive is worth it to you because these kids who can barely run each represent $2K to the club and they're not going anywhere.


PP you sound like your kid belongs to a club that is suffering the effects of cannibalization. If so you’ll know why.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2021 13:59     Subject: When does the "not great kid" finally hang it up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When does the "not so good kid" finally get to the point where their parent stops paying for club soccer? When the roster expands and the number of teams shrinks? When middle and high school sports take affect? Our team has a couple kids who just aren't at the same level and the coach gives them equal playing time (as he should).


It doesn't make sense to me. I'm glad kids are playing sports but why is every kid in travel? We have a handful of unskilled, slow, overweight kids who should be playing rec. It's pretty obvious that they're terrible but parents insist on continuing travel. They'd be well positioned and sufficiently challenged in a lower league so why bring the whole team down?


They're not bringing the whole team down. Without them, there wouldn't be a team. The "better" kids on this team couldn't make the next team up so they play on this team which needs a full roster so it can play games.

The biggest issue now is that you cannot say that some kids are better than others, or that another kids sucks.

Of course you can say this, as you always could. And it is just as rude to do so as it always was.

Parents, if your kid has man boobs, sports might not be for him. Your kid might not be good at soccer but could be great at programming, violin, languages, debate or a myriad of other things. I don't understand why we need to insist that all kids are good at all things. They're not and we should be honest about it.

Nobody's insisting anything. Kids who want to play go to tryouts and are put on a team based on their ability. If your kid wasn't good enough to get on a team with better teammates that's not the fault of other kids who want to play.

Anonymous
Post 04/18/2021 13:54     Subject: When does the "not great kid" finally hang it up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When it’s not longer fun for him/her.


My kids quit soccer and start golf at the age of 14. Best decisions ever. Soccer is full of corruption, favoritism, and nepotism. Coaches have too much power. Coaches can’t do that in golf because you are what the score says you are, and coaches can’t change that.



The poster child for white privilege


We’re not white. We’re Asians.


Asians still have white privilege. Don't you know anything?
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2021 13:42     Subject: When does the "not great kid" finally hang it up
Anonymous wrote:When does the "not so good kid" finally get to the point where their parent stops paying for club soccer? When the roster expands and the number of teams shrinks? When middle and high school sports take affect? Our team has a couple kids who just aren't at the same level and the coach gives them equal playing time (as he should).


It doesn't make sense to me. I'm glad kids are playing sports but why is every kid in travel? We have a handful of unskilled, slow, overweight kids who should be playing rec. It's pretty obvious that they're terrible but parents insist on continuing travel. They'd be well positioned and sufficiently challenged in a lower league so why bring the whole team down? The biggest issue now is that you cannot say that some kids are better than others, or that another kids sucks. For some reason, everyone needs a medal and we can't hurt anyone's feelings. Parents, if your kid has man boobs, sports might not be for him. Your kid might not be good at soccer but could be great at programming, violin, languages, debate or a myriad of other things. I don't understand why we need to insist that all kids are good at all things. They're not and we should be honest about it.

OP, if your kid is a good player you either have to tough it out with your current team or try-out elsewhere. You'll have to decide whether the longer drive is worth it to you because these kids who can barely run each represent $2K to the club and they're not going anywhere.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2021 13:24     Subject: When does the "not great kid" finally hang it up
If the coaches dont have the power to control the team who would? What a weird position to take. Should decisions be based on parental democracy? LOL
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2021 13:14     Subject: When does the "not great kid" finally hang it up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When it’s not longer fun for him/her.


My kids quit soccer and start golf at the age of 14. Best decisions ever. Soccer is full of corruption, favoritism, and nepotism. Coaches have too much power. Coaches can’t do that in golf because you are what the score says you are, and coaches can’t change that.


Happy your kid is happy but my kid is addicted to soccer even with all its crappy flaws. Loves it and golf is not even close to the same experience. It really is a fun sport. Good thing or no one tolerate all the nonsense.


Go kiss the coach a&s if you expect your kid to get anything out of it. Wonder if there is any sort of training for parents learning how to enhance parental skills to kiss your coach and TD As&$ so your kid gets play time, position rotation, opportunity to execute a free kick, corner kick,PK etc. All things that players should have exposures to be called soccer player.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2021 12:57     Subject: When does the "not great kid" finally hang it up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When it’s not longer fun for him/her.


My kids quit soccer and start golf at the age of 14. Best decisions ever. Soccer is full of corruption, favoritism, and nepotism. Coaches have too much power. Coaches can’t do that in golf because you are what the score says you are, and coaches can’t change that.


Happy your kid is happy but my kid is addicted to soccer even with all its crappy flaws. Loves it and golf is not even close to the same experience. It really is a fun sport. Good thing or no one tolerate all the nonsense.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2021 12:50     Subject: When does the "not great kid" finally hang it up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As long as the kid is having fun and enjoys playing, find the right level play for them and let them play! Why parents keep spending thousands for 5th and 6th string club teams when there are so many Recreation kids having a ball is beyond me.


Which clubs have strong girls rec leagues after 4th grade? Because from what I've seen, as the kids get older, the rec leagues drop off significantly and you end up with combined age groups of 2 - 3 years. Not sure how that is better than playing on a lower level travel team. Also, typically the kids who play travel at least want to be there (not always, but the vast majority), even if they aren't the most skilled player. That alone was the reason my DD wanted to play travel. She was tired of playing with girls who literally would just stand there during the games. Her current team isn't amazing, but the kids are all trying.


This is PP - I really wish the kids here didn't start travel until 5th grade. The rec leagues would stay stronger for longer periods, families would save money and time not traveling.


I totally agree in there and probably less burn out too. Kids starting travel in the 2nd/3rd grade is really insane. They’re not able to diversify in other sports, which is important for developing athletes.

My kid is definitely on the lower end of their team, but they have a strong passion. We will continue to pay until they are no longer interested or they don’t make the team. The rec teams at their level (middle school) are in some cases very frustrating to play on. Kids only know how to kick the ball out of bounds and don’t understand positions? That’s what can happen with parent volunteers sadly.


Alex Morgan started playing club soccer at age 13, see where she is now.


True and she didn't make the club team the first time she tried out. This has really encouraged my daughter to keep trying (she's on a low level team).


Samantha Kerr didn’t even play soccer. She moved to play soccer at age 13 and by age 15 she was spotted as a great player. What clubs do in DMV for young kids is purely propaganda. Parents pay for imaginary mini pro legues for the young kids. Unfortunately coaching is only motivated by clubs making the numbers for ever season.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2021 12:49     Subject: When does the "not great kid" finally hang it up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When it’s not longer fun for him/her.


My kids quit soccer and start golf at the age of 14. Best decisions ever. Soccer is full of corruption, favoritism, and nepotism. Coaches have too much power. Coaches can’t do that in golf because you are what the score says you are, and coaches can’t change that.



The poster child for white privilege


We’re not white. We’re Asians.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2021 12:38     Subject: When does the "not great kid" finally hang it up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When it’s not longer fun for him/her.


My kids quit soccer and start golf at the age of 14. Best decisions ever. Soccer is full of corruption, favoritism, and nepotism. Coaches have too much power. Coaches can’t do that in golf because you are what the score says you are, and coaches can’t change that.



The poster child for white privilege
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2021 12:32     Subject: When does the "not great kid" finally hang it up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As long as the kid is having fun and enjoys playing, find the right level play for them and let them play! Why parents keep spending thousands for 5th and 6th string club teams when there are so many Recreation kids having a ball is beyond me.


Which clubs have strong girls rec leagues after 4th grade? Because from what I've seen, as the kids get older, the rec leagues drop off significantly and you end up with combined age groups of 2 - 3 years. Not sure how that is better than playing on a lower level travel team. Also, typically the kids who play travel at least want to be there (not always, but the vast majority), even if they aren't the most skilled player. That alone was the reason my DD wanted to play travel. She was tired of playing with girls who literally would just stand there during the games. Her current team isn't amazing, but the kids are all trying.


This is PP - I really wish the kids here didn't start travel until 5th grade. The rec leagues would stay stronger for longer periods, families would save money and time not traveling.


I totally agree in there and probably less burn out too. Kids starting travel in the 2nd/3rd grade is really insane. They’re not able to diversify in other sports, which is important for developing athletes.

My kid is definitely on the lower end of their team, but they have a strong passion. We will continue to pay until they are no longer interested or they don’t make the team. The rec teams at their level (middle school) are in some cases very frustrating to play on. Kids only know how to kick the ball out of bounds and don’t understand positions? That’s what can happen with parent volunteers sadly.


Alex Morgan started playing club soccer at age 13, see where she is now.


True and she didn't make the club team the first time she tried out. This has really encouraged my daughter to keep trying (she's on a low level team).
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2021 12:30     Subject: When does the "not great kid" finally hang it up
Anonymous wrote:When it’s not longer fun for him/her.


My kids quit soccer and start golf at the age of 14. Best decisions ever. Soccer is full of corruption, favoritism, and nepotism. Coaches have too much power. Coaches can’t do that in golf because you are what the score says you are, and coaches can’t change that.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2021 12:23     Subject: When does the "not great kid" finally hang it up
When it’s not longer fun for him/her.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2021 12:13     Subject: When does the "not great kid" finally hang it up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As long as the kid is having fun and enjoys playing, find the right level play for them and let them play! Why parents keep spending thousands for 5th and 6th string club teams when there are so many Recreation kids having a ball is beyond me.


Which clubs have strong girls rec leagues after 4th grade? Because from what I've seen, as the kids get older, the rec leagues drop off significantly and you end up with combined age groups of 2 - 3 years. Not sure how that is better than playing on a lower level travel team. Also, typically the kids who play travel at least want to be there (not always, but the vast majority), even if they aren't the most skilled player. That alone was the reason my DD wanted to play travel. She was tired of playing with girls who literally would just stand there during the games. Her current team isn't amazing, but the kids are all trying.


This is PP - I really wish the kids here didn't start travel until 5th grade. The rec leagues would stay stronger for longer periods, families would save money and time not traveling.


I totally agree in there and probably less burn out too. Kids starting travel in the 2nd/3rd grade is really insane. They’re not able to diversify in other sports, which is important for developing athletes.

My kid is definitely on the lower end of their team, but they have a strong passion. We will continue to pay until they are no longer interested or they don’t make the team. The rec teams at their level (middle school) are in some cases very frustrating to play on. Kids only know how to kick the ball out of bounds and don’t understand positions? That’s what can happen with parent volunteers sadly.


Alex Morgan started playing club soccer at age 13, see where she is now.