Anonymous
Post 04/11/2021 22:41     Subject: Marylanders - Are you fearful that police will not be able to recruit quality candidates?
Anonymous wrote:This is the same scare line used any time people are held accountable: "But no one will do the job if they can be prosecuted/sued for what they do on the job." And yet, we still have doctors, lawyers, LE, and so on. So, no, not worried.


There's a slight pay difference...
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2021 22:40     Subject: Marylanders - Are you fearful that police will not be able to recruit quality candidates?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I mean we got pentagon cops gunning down people in Takoma so the less qualified still can find jobs apparently.


gunning down car thieves. Not saying it's justified, but wanetd to correct that for you ^


Yes, because the punishment for trying to break into a car should be death, and an off duty police officer is the judge and jury.


What's wrong with teaching people to not break into cars and steal them, to not carjack, and to not hurt others? Very different from taking a loaf old bread because you're hungry. Car thieves are HURTING and killing people.


PP here. I mean teach your kids to not mug, steal, and carjack. Pretty basic values.

Teaching =\= murdering
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2021 22:36     Subject: Marylanders - Are you fearful that police will not be able to recruit quality candidates?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is the same scare line used any time people are held accountable: "But no one will do the job if they can be prosecuted/sued for what they do on the job." And yet, we still have doctors, lawyers, LE, and so on. So, no, not worried.


Doctors pay huge fees in malpractice insurance. They also get to plan out their surgeries, and ask for a second opinion. It's not a split-second decision.

What other jobs are like that?


Have you heard of the ER?
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2021 22:33     Subject: Marylanders - Are you fearful that police will not be able to recruit quality candidates?
Anonymous wrote:This is the same scare line used any time people are held accountable: "But no one will do the job if they can be prosecuted/sued for what they do on the job." And yet, we still have doctors, lawyers, LE, and so on. So, no, not worried.


Doctors pay huge fees in malpractice insurance. They also get to plan out their surgeries, and ask for a second opinion. It's not a split-second decision.

What other jobs are like that?
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2021 22:27     Subject: Marylanders - Are you fearful that police will not be able to recruit quality candidates?
Anonymous wrote:
Cops seem to make the right call 99% of the time, but you make a mistake once and a person is dead and you're in prison.


How often do cops end up in prison?


Also relevant: what did those cops -- the ones who are in prison -- do to be put there?
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2021 22:21     Subject: Marylanders - Are you fearful that police will not be able to recruit quality candidates?
Cops seem to make the right call 99% of the time, but you make a mistake once and a person is dead and you're in prison.


How often do cops end up in prison?
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2021 22:18     Subject: Marylanders - Are you fearful that police will not be able to recruit quality candidates?
This is the same scare line used any time people are held accountable: "But no one will do the job if they can be prosecuted/sued for what they do on the job." And yet, we still have doctors, lawyers, LE, and so on. So, no, not worried.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2021 22:16     Subject: Re:Marylanders - Are you fearful that police will not be able to recruit quality candidates?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There was already a recruitment issue. I was at Hagerstown getting my vaccine and drove past a billboard recruiting people to join the MoCo police. They wouldn't need to do that if they had enough recruits in MoCo itself.

I think being a police officer is a tough job. You have to make split-second life-threatening decisions on a daily basis. Is the suspect reaching for his gun or a cellphone? Do you shoot or not? If you get it wrong, you can end up in prison.

Not many jobs out there, especially at that pay level, where a mistake during routine everyday work tasks can end up with you in prison.


Daily basis? Please. How many cops end up in prison?

It's a tough job. It's made tougher by all the terrible cops that are impossible to fire.


Every day cops are reporting to a domestic violence situation (the riskiest -- tempers are up) or a traffic stop (the second riskiest -- who has a gun under their seat). Cops seem to make the right call 99% of the time, but you make a mistake once and a person is dead and you're in prison.

In my job, if I make a mistake the consequences are minor, and I get paid more than most cops do too. I wouldn't take on a job with that level of risk. Everyone makes mistakes, so I know I'd end up making a mistake and someone may die because of it.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2021 22:14     Subject: Marylanders - Are you fearful that police will not be able to recruit quality candidates?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean we got pentagon cops gunning down people in Takoma so the less qualified still can find jobs apparently.


gunning down car thieves. Not saying it's justified, but wanetd to correct that for you ^


Yes, because the punishment for trying to break into a car should be death, and an off duty police officer is the judge and jury.


What's wrong with teaching people to not break into cars and steal them, to not carjack, and to not hurt others? Very different from taking a loaf old bread because you're hungry. Car thieves are HURTING and killing people.


There will always be misfits who steal things like cars. They should be shot at?
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2021 22:13     Subject: Marylanders - Are you fearful that police will not be able to recruit quality candidates?
Anonymous wrote:Increase pay and then select the non-morons.

Vs scraping the bottom of the barrel, like we’re doing now in both policing and education.


+1
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2021 22:13     Subject: Marylanders - Are you fearful that police will not be able to recruit quality candidates?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean we got pentagon cops gunning down people in Takoma so the less qualified still can find jobs apparently.


gunning down car thieves. Not saying it's justified, but wanetd to correct that for you ^


Yes, because the punishment for trying to break into a car should be death, and an off duty police officer is the judge and jury.


What's wrong with teaching people to not break into cars and steal them, to not carjack, and to not hurt others? Very different from taking a loaf old bread because you're hungry. Car thieves are HURTING and killing people.


Teaching =\= murdering
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2021 22:12     Subject: Re:Marylanders - Are you fearful that police will not be able to recruit quality candidates?
Anonymous wrote:There was already a recruitment issue. I was at Hagerstown getting my vaccine and drove past a billboard recruiting people to join the MoCo police. They wouldn't need to do that if they had enough recruits in MoCo itself.

I think being a police officer is a tough job. You have to make split-second life-threatening decisions on a daily basis. Is the suspect reaching for his gun or a cellphone? Do you shoot or not? If you get it wrong, you can end up in prison.

Not many jobs out there, especially at that pay level, where a mistake during routine everyday work tasks can end up with you in prison.


Daily basis? Please. How many cops end up in prison?

It's a tough job. It's made tougher by all the terrible cops that are impossible to fire.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2021 22:10     Subject: Re:Marylanders - Are you fearful that police will not be able to recruit quality candidates?
There was already a recruitment issue. I was at Hagerstown getting my vaccine and drove past a billboard recruiting people to join the MoCo police. They wouldn't need to do that if they had enough recruits in MoCo itself.

I think being a police officer is a tough job. You have to make split-second life-threatening decisions on a daily basis. Is the suspect reaching for his gun or a cellphone? Do you shoot or not? If you get it wrong, you can end up in prison.

Not many jobs out there, especially at that pay level, where a mistake during routine everyday work tasks can end up with you in prison.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2021 21:45     Subject: Marylanders - Are you fearful that police will not be able to recruit quality candidates?
What's wrong with teaching kids right from wrong by beating them, especially if they were stealing or doing something else clearly wrong?

Proportionality.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2021 21:42     Subject: Marylanders - Are you fearful that police will not be able to recruit quality candidates?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean we got pentagon cops gunning down people in Takoma so the less qualified still can find jobs apparently.


gunning down car thieves. Not saying it's justified, but wanetd to correct that for you ^


Yes, because the punishment for trying to break into a car should be death, and an off duty police officer is the judge and jury.


What's wrong with teaching people to not break into cars and steal them, to not carjack, and to not hurt others? Very different from taking a loaf old bread because you're hungry. Car thieves are HURTING and killing people.