Anonymous wrote:I still don’t think that’s what people mean when they say UES. First of all, the fratty part is Yorkville. Second, you’d say “Murray Hill” if you wanted to convey fratty. It’s just confusing unless you mean stuffy/ wealthy if you say UES.

I think she was trying to say that Ballston is the fanciest neighborhood in town and therefore I’m in camp “Bahahahahahaha”.

I’d need to hear the full comment and see what photo(s) she shared to know for sure, but I find that really unlikely. Maybe OP can share more details.

Anyway, without more info the fresh grad comparison makes the most sense.

I still don’t think that’s what people mean when they say UES. First of all, the fratty part is Yorkville. Second, you’d say “Murray Hill” if you wanted to convey fratty. It’s just confusing unless you mean stuffy/ wealthy if you say UES.

I think she was trying to say that Ballston is the fanciest neighborhood in town and therefore I’m in camp “Bahahahahahaha”.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe like Murray Hill? Or as a pp noted the parts of the UES that are younger and frattier? The UES is trending in that direction, so I'm guessing the IG poster is younger and moved to the UES right after college and hung out at a lot of sports bars. That is the the newer stereotype of the UES.

???

It's been like that for many, many years...

I know. But I think when many people hear "Upper East Side" they think of the stodgy, stuffy, monied park avenues. I stand by the understanding that the sports bar stereotype has emerged more recently (past 20-25 years?) than the rich upper crust stereotype. The neighborhood is trending away from the latter and towards the former.

It’s weird that people who claim they are from NY don’t know this.

I don't think of Ballston as upper east sidish at all, but are the folks who are scoffing at it aware of all the new construction and all the $1.5M apartments with courtyards etc. going up there, within the last two years or so? It's becoming more weirdly urban than it used to be. I live closer to Westover and again this whole area is not at all New Yorkish, as if, but it seemed to me as though Ballston was, I dunno, elevating a little from what it was before with all the new housing etc.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe like Murray Hill? Or as a pp noted the parts of the UES that are younger and frattier? The UES is trending in that direction, so I'm guessing the IG poster is younger and moved to the UES right after college and hung out at a lot of sports bars. That is the the newer stereotype of the UES.

???

It's been like that for many, many years...

I know. But I think when many people hear "Upper East Side" they think of the stodgy, stuffy, monied park avenues. I stand by the understanding that the sports bar stereotype has emerged more recently (past 20-25 years?) than the rich upper crust stereotype. The neighborhood is trending away from the latter and towards the former.

Yuck!