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Anonymous wrote:I actually don’t think moving it to 3ft distance does much. You may get another 2-3 kids in most classrooms. 3 ft is much bigger than what is the norm in my room. My school has tables and at most the kids are sitting 1 foot from each other. This is for the entire school.

tables will be replaced by desks, obv.

You have to be kidding, right? Who is going to pay to replace all the tables with desks?

I don’t care.

most schools I know that do tables push desks together anyway. your school’s failure to think ahead isn’t going to dictate what the rest of us can do.

So I’m currently teaching in person and I certainly am not trying to dictate what other schools can do. I was just pointing out that people probably need to keep their expectations in check about this change.

This won’t be for term 4, just watch and wait.

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Anonymous wrote:I actually don’t think moving it to 3ft distance does much. You may get another 2-3 kids in most classrooms. 3 ft is much bigger than what is the norm in my room. My school has tables and at most the kids are sitting 1 foot from each other. This is for the entire school.

tables will be replaced by desks, obv.

You have to be kidding, right? Who is going to pay to replace all the tables with desks?

I don’t care.

most schools I know that do tables push desks together anyway. your school’s failure to think ahead isn’t going to dictate what the rest of us can do.

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Anonymous wrote:But still require 6 ft and mayor said "no comment" in response to question about changing distancing mandate in light of the research.

Hehe this will be in the FALL. The MOA that they signed requires 6ft. The WTU won't let them get away with that.

It requires 6’ between the students’ desks and the teacher’s work station. It does not require six feet between each of the student desks.

You're reading it incorrectly, it's indeed student desks.

Nope, at best it’s ambiguous so can go to arbitration which would strike it and default to the strict adherence to OSSE and DCHealth guidelines. - contract lawyer

That is good news, but is DCPS going to take this on for Term 4? I doubt it. I agree though that the way it is written it sounds like it applies to the distance between the teacher's desk and the students, which makes complete sense, and is how it is handled in other countries. Why should the teachers care how far the students are apart from each other? So maybe principals can just take it to mean what it appears to mean and work from there.

Maybe teachers care about students? And students’ families?

LOL

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Anonymous wrote:I actually don’t think moving it to 3ft distance does much. You may get another 2-3 kids in most classrooms. 3 ft is much bigger than what is the norm in my room. My school has tables and at most the kids are sitting 1 foot from each other. This is for the entire school.

tables will be replaced by desks, obv.

My school replaced all of the 4 student tables with desks and the 2 student tables can only be used by 1 student. 3' distance would make a difference.

What school?

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Anonymous wrote:But still require 6 ft and mayor said "no comment" in response to question about changing distancing mandate in light of the research.

Hehe this will be in the FALL. The MOA that they signed requires 6ft. The WTU won't let them get away with that.

It requires 6’ between the students’ desks and the teacher’s work station. It does not require six feet between each of the student desks.

You're reading it incorrectly, it's indeed student desks.

Nope, at best it’s ambiguous so can go to arbitration which would strike it and default to the strict adherence to OSSE and DCHealth guidelines. - contract lawyer

That is good news, but is DCPS going to take this on for Term 4? I doubt it. I agree though that the way it is written it sounds like it applies to the distance between the teacher's desk and the students, which makes complete sense, and is how it is handled in other countries. Why should the teachers care how far the students are apart from each other? So maybe principals can just take it to mean what it appears to mean and work from there.

Maybe teachers care about students? And students’ families?

LOL

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Anonymous wrote:I actually don’t think moving it to 3ft distance does much. You may get another 2-3 kids in most classrooms. 3 ft is much bigger than what is the norm in my room. My school has tables and at most the kids are sitting 1 foot from each other. This is for the entire school.

tables will be replaced by desks, obv.

My school replaced all of the 4 student tables with desks and the 2 student tables can only be used by 1 student. 3' distance would make a difference.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But still require 6 ft and mayor said "no comment" in response to question about changing distancing mandate in light of the research.

Hehe this will be in the FALL. The MOA that they signed requires 6ft. The WTU won't let them get away with that.

It requires 6’ between the students’ desks and the teacher’s work station. It does not require six feet between each of the student desks.

You're reading it incorrectly, it's indeed student desks.

Nope, at best it’s ambiguous so can go to arbitration which would strike it and default to the strict adherence to OSSE and DCHealth guidelines. - contract lawyer

That is good news, but is DCPS going to take this on for Term 4? I doubt it. I agree though that the way it is written it sounds like it applies to the distance between the teacher's desk and the students, which makes complete sense, and is how it is handled in other countries. Why should the teachers care how far the students are apart from each other? So maybe principals can just take it to mean what it appears to mean and work from there.

Maybe teachers care about students? And students’ families?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But still require 6 ft and mayor said "no comment" in response to question about changing distancing mandate in light of the research.

Hehe this will be in the FALL. The MOA that they signed requires 6ft. The WTU won't let them get away with that.

It requires 6’ between the students’ desks and the teacher’s work station. It does not require six feet between each of the student desks.

You're reading it incorrectly, it's indeed student desks.

Nope, at best it’s ambiguous so can go to arbitration which would strike it and default to the strict adherence to OSSE and DCHealth guidelines. - contract lawyer

That is good news, but is DCPS going to take this on for Term 4? I doubt it. I agree though that the way it is written it sounds like it applies to the distance between the teacher's desk and the students, which makes complete sense, and is how it is handled in other countries. Why should the teachers care how far the students are apart from each other? So maybe principals can just take it to mean what it appears to mean and work from there.

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Anonymous wrote:DC will change the 6 ft guidance after CDC does.

Yeah, what Bowser actually said is that she understands the CDC is reconsidering the 6-foot guidance and DC will see after that. No guarantees but very promising.

Looks like the research was based on districts that had a 3 foot limit in policy, but schools may have used greater than 3 feet in practice. There’s no way to know what three feet looks like if strictly implemented. Maybe 4.5 feet is as good as 6, but 4 isn’t.

https://apple.news/AW4ugW8twR0KwYj-onXS4bw

Looks like you are going to try whatever you can to cast doubt on the idea that 3 feet could possibly be safe, in order to argue that we can't possibly know or we can't possibly take the risk, no matter how big the damage to kids from keeping them out of school

FYI, there is other research conducted outside of schools that has looked at virus transmission over certain distances. They have not found a meaningful increase in safety between 3 and 6 feet when masks are involved.

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Anonymous wrote:I actually don’t think moving it to 3ft distance does much. You may get another 2-3 kids in most classrooms. 3 ft is much bigger than what is the norm in my room. My school has tables and at most the kids are sitting 1 foot from each other. This is for the entire school.

tables will be replaced by desks, obv.

You have to be kidding, right? Who is going to pay to replace all the tables with desks?

We just got a ton of money from the feds for education

They are using that money for summer school or acceleration academies (as they are calling them).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC will change the 6 ft guidance after CDC does.

Yeah, what Bowser actually said is that she understands the CDC is reconsidering the 6-foot guidance and DC will see after that. No guarantees but very promising.

Looks like the research was based on districts that had a 3 foot limit in policy, but schools may have used greater than 3 feet in practice. There’s no way to know what three feet looks like if strictly implemented. Maybe 4.5 feet is as good as 6, but 4 isn’t.

https://apple.news/AW4ugW8twR0KwYj-onXS4bw

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually don’t think moving it to 3ft distance does much. You may get another 2-3 kids in most classrooms. 3 ft is much bigger than what is the norm in my room. My school has tables and at most the kids are sitting 1 foot from each other. This is for the entire school.

tables will be replaced by desks, obv.

You have to be kidding, right? Who is going to pay to replace all the tables with desks?

We just got a ton of money from the feds for education

Anonymous wrote:I actually don’t think moving it to 3ft distance does much. You may get another 2-3 kids in most classrooms. 3 ft is much bigger than what is the norm in my room. My school has tables and at most the kids are sitting 1 foot from each other. This is for the entire school.

It would at our school, rooms are big. But I don't know if this soft removal of cohort size limits will really be used. Schools may still try to stay within the cohort limits.

Very interested if any schools are actively now changing their plans for term 4?

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Anonymous wrote:I actually don’t think moving it to 3ft distance does much. You may get another 2-3 kids in most classrooms. 3 ft is much bigger than what is the norm in my room. My school has tables and at most the kids are sitting 1 foot from each other. This is for the entire school.

tables will be replaced by desks, obv.

You have to be kidding, right? Who is going to pay to replace all the tables with desks?