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Anonymous wrote:Kids in diapers squat to poop, so.thr straight colon argument makes no sense to me

Oh Crap works for a lot of people but it's not an infallible Bible. I've known people who tried other methods and succeeded. Given how varied everything is with kids, why would potty training be the exception to that?

Preschool teacher here and all my kids currently stand to poop in a diaper. I’ve had a few squatters over the years but most kids do stand. Especially in their cribs where they like to poop before nap. If your kids squat - that’s great! It easier to potty train.

My 20 month old stands to poop and pee too! She's diaper-less during the day and when I put her on the potty, she stands up to pee or poop on the bathroom floor because she doesn't want to do her business while sitting.

What should I try now?

My Dad's a pediatrician and his big advice is start before age 3. Other than that he says just pick a method and be consistent on it, as inconsistency confuses young kids.

Anonymous wrote:Buy oh crap book and just do it! I completely agree that there is no "readiness" cue. The only cue you need is that your kid wants to please you. 2 and 3 year olds don't want to please you the way 1.5 year olds do, so I think the earlier the better. Historically kids trained a lot sooner than 3, which is when my mom was told to train when we were little. I think the longer you wait, the more issues that can happen like constipation.

Also, just want to say that the first day is always hard. Lots of accidents. Luckily the weather is so fab- have your kid run around naked on the deck with a potty out there.

I agree with this. I trained my first right at 24 months and we had some issues with him starting to get defiant with refusing to sit on the potty on my command, like before leaving the house. I felt at the time I had actually waited too long but it did work out in the end even though I got funny looks from friends who weren't planning to start with their boys till 3. Also our ped told us to quit and go back to diapers but I ignored that advice and continued, just backed off on the overprompting. I'm so glad I went that route as that did the trick.

My second is 18 mo and she's showing signs- dry after naps all last week and signals when she want a diaper change but she's behind in expressive language so I'm going to wait a couple more months and reassess.

Anonymous wrote:Doctor here.
To Mayo Clinic poster: when, exactly, do you think doctors learn “what age to potty train”, or do research on potty training at different ages?

This isn’t about vaccines or antibiotics or rashes. Mayo Clinic doctors who know about potty training know about potty training because they are parents.

Oh Crap plus many parents that try it are as qualified as Mayo Clinic docs to talk about potty training age.

I'm sure you're a Doctor and that Oh Crap is as qualified as Mayo Clinic. Please post where you practice, so we can all avoid you!

Doctor here.
To Mayo Clinic poster: when, exactly, do you think doctors learn “what age to potty train”, or do research on potty training at different ages?

This isn’t about vaccines or antibiotics or rashes. Mayo Clinic doctors who know about potty training know about potty training because they are parents.

Oh Crap plus many parents that try it are as qualified as Mayo Clinic docs to talk about potty training age.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids in diapers squat to poop, so.thr straight colon argument makes no sense to me

Oh Crap works for a lot of people but it's not an infallible Bible. I've known people who tried other methods and succeeded. Given how varied everything is with kids, why would potty training be the exception to that?

Preschool teacher here and all my kids currently stand to poop in a diaper. I’ve had a few squatters over the years but most kids do stand. Especially in their cribs where they like to poop before nap. If your kids squat - that’s great! It easier to potty train.

You don’t need to look further than... most of the world, particularly going back two or three decades to see that most any developmentally normal kid can be potty trained before two (if not well before). This delayed potty training and idea of Karla needing to be “ready” is ridiculous and gross.

Anonymous wrote:Kids in diapers squat to poop, so.thr straight colon argument makes no sense to me

Oh Crap works for a lot of people but it's not an infallible Bible. I've known people who tried other methods and succeeded. Given how varied everything is with kids, why would potty training be the exception to that?

Preschool teacher here and all my kids currently stand to poop in a diaper. I’ve had a few squatters over the years but most kids do stand. Especially in their cribs where they like to poop before nap. If your kids squat - that’s great! It easier to potty train.

Anonymous wrote: So, I'm quoting directly from the Mayo Clinic, and you got your 'science' from Oh Crap. But I'm nuts.

You aren’t reading what the poster wrote, PP. Hopkins is quoting was parents are reporting and not what is possible or even preferable. Both Hopkins and AAP are stating what IS which is not in dispute. We all know 3.5 yr old who aren’t potty trained. The poster was asking for one study proving that physically a child isn’t ready to toilet train.

Kids in diapers squat to poop, so.thr straight colon argument makes no sense to me

Oh Crap works for a lot of people but it's not an infallible Bible. I've known people who tried other methods and succeeded. Given how varied everything is with kids, why would potty training be the exception to that?

So, I'm quoting directly from the Mayo Clinic, and you got your 'science' from Oh Crap. But I'm nuts.

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Anonymous wrote:“Readiness” in toilet training is total bullsh*t. All developmentally normal children can easily toilet-train by two-years-old.

That is literally not true. Really, you just made that up. From the Mayo Clinic

Many children show signs of being ready for potty training between ages 18 and 24 months. However, others might not be ready until they're 3 years old. There's no rush. If you start too early, it might take longer to train your child.

But Oh Crap says so, so it must be so

History says it is so. Do you think bladders and bowels have suddenly become harder for children to control since at disposable diaper was invented?

NP here and the “signs of readiness” were written by an internist sponsored by the disposable diaper industry.

Normally developed children are able at two.

Um, ok, that doesn't sound nuts or anything...so you think the renowned Mayo Clinic is misleading parents of toilet training kids, because of one random internist that was supposedly sponsored by the disposable diaper industry? The AAP says essentially the same thing-are they in cahoots too? Golly, it sounds like a conspiracy

Oh, come on! Have you honestly no clue how this works?

AAP an d and Hopkins are quoting averages supplied by parents. Nothing more. Show me one study that shows physiological proof that some kinds have a physical inability to toilet train until 3.

You’re truly nuts.