Anonymous wrote:Like it or not, it's a commonly accepted term now.

You're wasting your common sense on OP.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as a "Public Ivy." It's like calling Brown a "Private ACC."

Stop it.

The public Ivy concept derives from a book in the late 1980s that made the case that many public institutions offered a comparable education to the Ivy League at a fraction of the cost. Broadly speaking, the point is valid, even if economics and institution quality have changed since then.

No need to get all butthurt.

OP's point is Ivy League only references sports and has nothing to do with the academic institutions. I'm guessing it's the same deranged poster who inserts that comment into every post that mentions the Ivy League as short hand for the high caliber academic institutions that are a part of the League. I guess it makes her/him feel good in some way.

Anonymous wrote:"Public Ivy" is actually "No Ivy."

So, this thread is basically No Ivy vs. Ivy.

Public Ivy is Cornell for one.

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Anonymous wrote:UVM, Miami Ohio, and UVA are definitely all in the same tier. Not sure why people have an issue with this.

What is UVM?

University of Vermont, and it is not as selective as UVA. Lovely school, great location, but not as selective as UVA.

Still, both are public Ivies so same tier.

"Public Ivy" is actually "No Ivy."

So, this thread is basically No Ivy vs. Ivy.

Anonymous wrote:UVM, Miami Ohio, and UVA are definitely all in the same tier. Not sure why people have an issue with this.

I would no longer include Miami in that list.

-- Miami grad 1993.

It's a fine school. Used to be considered the best in Ohio. And it's a great undergraduate school. But I don't know that its kept pace with the rigor as the others on the original list.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a poison ivy ??

Penn

More like Dartmouth with all the booze and drugs.

Anonymous wrote:Is there a poison ivy ??

Penn

Is there a poison ivy ??

Anonymous wrote:This is silly. No one thinks Stanford sucks because it’s not an Ivy. Everyone knows what you mean when you say a public Ivy.

True re Stanford, but no one would agree on what a “public Ivy” is, random book from the 80s that tried to make the phrase mainstream or no. If you said that your kid attends an excellent State flagship, on the other hand, most people would be able to name which of the 10 or so public universities that might mean (and that number would definitely include UT Austin and UNC, but not Miami of Ohio).

This is silly. No one thinks Stanford sucks because it’s not an Ivy. Everyone knows what you mean when you say a public Ivy.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as a "Public Ivy." It's like calling Brown a "Private ACC."

Stop it.

Whoa. I didn’t know this. And I say “public ivy” all the time in reference to UVA, Michigan, UT Austin, Cal, Minnesota, and possibly UNC. But now that I’ve read this post I will definitely stop saying that. Thanks OP!

UT Austin, UNC??? are you kidding me?? Please!

Well, compare UT in engineering, computer science, science, to UVA. Also a top undergraduate business school.

I’d take UNC over Cornell any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Cornell is both an Ivy and a public Ivy!

And in beautiful Ithaca as a bonus. We have a winner.

The notion that the “Ivy League” must be referenced only as a sports league or the idea that “Public Ivy” is meaningless because it’s an author’s construct is nonsense. People are always working to group and name things. It’s part of the process of thinking and communicating! You may not like the names or the contents of those references, but if enough people use them to mean the same thing, they are a useful cultural references.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as a "Public Ivy." It's like calling Brown a "Private ACC."

Stop it.

Whoa. I didn’t know this. And I say “public ivy” all the time in reference to UVA, Michigan, UT Austin, Cal, Minnesota, and possibly UNC. But now that I’ve read this post I will definitely stop saying that. Thanks OP!

UT Austin, UNC??? are you kidding me?? Please!

Well, compare UT in engineering, computer science, science, to UVA. Also a top undergraduate business school.

I’d take UNC over Cornell any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Cornell is both an Ivy and a public Ivy!

SUNY Ithaca FTW!

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as a "Public Ivy." It's like calling Brown a "Private ACC."

Stop it.

Whoa. I didn’t know this. And I say “public ivy” all the time in reference to UVA, Michigan, UT Austin, Cal, Minnesota, and possibly UNC. But now that I’ve read this post I will definitely stop saying that. Thanks OP!

UT Austin, UNC??? are you kidding me?? Please!

Well, compare UT in engineering, computer science, science, to UVA. Also a top undergraduate business school.

I’d take UNC over Cornell any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Cornell is both an Ivy and a public Ivy!