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Anonymous wrote:I would not think of UVA or BC as peers to Tufts. Tufts peers are Amherst, Williams and the like.

Except you'd be wrong. For that to be the case, you'd have to have applicants turning down Amherst or Williams for Tufts. Which rarely happens.

Amherst and Williams are colleges not universities.

Amherst and Williams are the "ivy" of colleges they are not even ranked with universities.

Tufts is a university. It's like Brown or Cornell of universities. So yes, Amherst and Williams are more like Harvard and Yale of colleges... but if they had to be compared to Universities, clearly they are not Harvard or Yale.

So it is hard to compare a university like Tufts to colleges like Amherst.

Huh??

they meant that elite SLACS are not comparable to Harvard or Yale, and they are wrong. Williams graduates end up in the same grad programs and Harvard graduates

What I am saying is Amherst and Williams are not part of University Rankings because they are Colleges. Look at US News and World report rankings, there are 2 different rankings 1 for Universities, 1 for colleges.

In college rankings they are #1 and #2. If they were Universities, they would not be #1 and #2 because Harvard and Princeton would be, they would be much lower... but yes they are comparable to Harvard with relation to colleges.

I agree that grads from Harvard/Princeton/Tufts/Amherst/Williams end up in the same place.

Tufts is ranked with Universities, btw.

do you think the average Williams student would have been excepted by Tufts? Do you think the average Tufts student would have been accepted by Williams?

Yes.

Anonymous wrote:Tufts is too hard to pronounce.

Long u! A lot of people don't know that.

Tufts is too hard to pronounce.

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Anonymous wrote:Rankings aside, we have neighbors with three kids who went to, respectively, Yale, Dartmouth and Tufts. The parents think Tufts offered the best education.

Did the parents attend classes with the kids?

Ha! I doubt it, but they're certainly aware of how the school contributed to their child's development. As the parent of three students who are now in college and grad school, I'm in a good position to assess how they've benefited from the teaching, curriculum, research opportunities, and extracurricular activities.

Such absolute and unadulterated hogwash. Even if you really are "in a good position to assess how they've benefitted," which you likely aren't, you still can't assess what was "offered."

I've had four kids go to four different colleges. They're all doing well. I couldn't tell you a thing about their education other than what schools they went to.

Parents are sooo weird.

Yea m, I think those parents are just saying that because they don't want the Tufts student to feel bad or inadequate.

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Anonymous wrote:Rankings aside, we have neighbors with three kids who went to, respectively, Yale, Dartmouth and Tufts. The parents think Tufts offered the best education.

Did the parents attend classes with the kids?

Ha! I doubt it, but they're certainly aware of how the school contributed to their child's development. As the parent of three students who are now in college and grad school, I'm in a good position to assess how they've benefited from the teaching, curriculum, research opportunities, and extracurricular activities.

Such absolute and unadulterated hogwash. Even if you really are "in a good position to assess how they've benefitted," which you likely aren't, you still can't assess what was "offered."

I've had four kids go to four different colleges. They're all doing well. I couldn't tell you a thing about their education other than what schools they went to.

Parents are sooo weird.

Anonymous wrote:I don't think so - the other schools in that range are also great schools. The difference between 20 and 30 isn't really a meaningful one.

I will say that my kids friends who went to Tufts didn't totally love it, not sure what it is about the school but both my kids visited and chose not to apply.

Would you say that if Tufts were to drop to 32 (just outside top 30) would you still say the same? And let's take UCLA and Emory at around 20 would you say there's not much difference between them and say Duke and Dartmouth at around 12?

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Anonymous wrote:Achievement of their grads any good? I only know one and she works at a dead end job since forever.

I’m a Tufts grad. I am a senior leader in an NGO now working on COVID and other health threats. My close Tufts friends are now a department chair in a large Midwest U, a poet, a law partner in a big fancy Boston firm, an engineer, two doctors, and a yoga teacher.

Tufts grads do ok. So much.so that the alum magazine will reprint an obituary of a 50 or 60 y.o. and the obituary will mention that he "lived an ordinary life." That ordinary life is usually far above the ordinary even though the guy wasn't the founder of eBay, a movie director, international business person, C suite for a network, etc.

Lots of law, business, academia and medicine with some pursuing actual high level commitment to social change. I'm not the university president and the endowment isn't my responsibility so I don't care if it's underrated but I believe the school provides an overall excellent education to smart people.

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Anonymous wrote:Rankings aside, we have neighbors with three kids who went to, respectively, Yale, Dartmouth and Tufts. The parents think Tufts offered the best education.

Did the parents attend classes with the kids?

Ha! I doubt it, but they're certainly aware of how the school contributed to their child's development. As the parent of three students who are now in college and grad school, I'm in a good position to assess how they've benefited from the teaching, curriculum, research opportunities, and extracurricular activities.

Anonymous wrote:I would not think of UVA or BC as peers to Tufts. Tufts peers are Amherst, Williams and the like.

Oh please is we're comparing it to LACs then it's more on a Davidson, Haverford level, maybe Washington and Lee.

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I’m a Tufts grad. I am a senior leader in an NGO now working on COVID and other health threats. My close Tufts friends are now a department chair in a large Midwest U, a poet, a law partner in a big fancy Boston firm, an engineer, two doctors, and a yoga teacher.

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Anonymous wrote:I would not think of UVA or BC as peers to Tufts. Tufts peers are Amherst, Williams and the like.

Except you'd be wrong. For that to be the case, you'd have to have applicants turning down Amherst or Williams for Tufts. Which rarely happens.

Amherst and Williams are colleges not universities.

Amherst and Williams are the "ivy" of colleges they are not even ranked with universities.

Tufts is a university. It's like Brown or Cornell of universities. So yes, Amherst and Williams are more like Harvard and Yale of colleges... but if they had to be compared to Universities, clearly they are not Harvard or Yale.

So it is hard to compare a university like Tufts to colleges like Amherst.

Huh??

they meant that elite SLACS are not comparable to Harvard or Yale, and they are wrong. Williams graduates end up in the same grad programs and Harvard graduates

What I am saying is Amherst and Williams are not part of University Rankings because they are Colleges. Look at US News and World report rankings, there are 2 different rankings 1 for Universities, 1 for colleges.

In college rankings they are #1 and #2. If they were Universities, they would not be #1 and #2 because Harvard and Princeton would be, they would be much lower... but yes they are comparable to Harvard with relation to colleges.

I agree that grads from Harvard/Princeton/Tufts/Amherst/Williams end up in the same place.

Tufts is ranked with Universities, btw.

do you think the average Williams student would have been excepted by Tufts? Do you think the average Tufts student would have been accepted by Williams?

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Anonymous wrote:Tufts parent here so I am obviously biased, but there is no shortage of kids who are very happy at Tufts currently. Moreover, it did very well on a very large "consumer satisfaction" survey of 146,345 college graduates by Strada-Gallup. Tufts came in at #19. See

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brandonbusteed/2020/10/21/the-top-25-universities-according-to-alumni-ratings/?sh=5770f7b711dd

It also seems to be a "desirable school" based on the desirability rankings from Academic Influence, coming in at #25, which are based on data from admitted students and identifies which schools were picked by applicants over others. See

https://academicinfluence.com/articles/schools/best-colleges-universities

https://academicinfluence.com/resources/guidance/what-is-desirability

People associated with Tufts seem to have an inferiority complex and it's coming across in this thread pretty clearly

Huh, I thought by linking the above articles I was providing some information about Tufts that wasn't purely anecdotal, based on (very) small sample sizes, or dated. Better than making pronouncements based on little or dated information....

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Anonymous wrote:I would not think of UVA or BC as peers to Tufts. Tufts peers are Amherst, Williams and the like.

Tufst is much less selective. It's also just very generic??

It's not less selective.

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Anonymous wrote:I would not think of UVA or BC as peers to Tufts. Tufts peers are Amherst, Williams and the like.

Except you'd be wrong. For that to be the case, you'd have to have applicants turning down Amherst or Williams for Tufts. Which rarely happens.

Amherst and Williams are colleges not universities.

Amherst and Williams are the "ivy" of colleges they are not even ranked with universities.

Tufts is a university. It's like Brown or Cornell of universities. So yes, Amherst and Williams are more like Harvard and Yale of colleges... but if they had to be compared to Universities, clearly they are not Harvard or Yale.

So it is hard to compare a university like Tufts to colleges like Amherst.

Huh??

they meant that elite SLACS are not comparable to Harvard or Yale, and they are wrong. Williams graduates end up in the same grad programs and Harvard graduates

What I am saying is Amherst and Williams are not part of University Rankings because they are Colleges. Look at US News and World report rankings, there are 2 different rankings 1 for Universities, 1 for colleges.

In college rankings they are #1 and #2. If they were Universities, they would not be #1 and #2 because Harvard and Princeton would be, they would be much lower... but yes they are comparable to Harvard with relation to colleges.

I agree that grads from Harvard/Princeton/Tufts/Amherst/Williams end up in the same place.

Tufts is ranked with Universities, btw.

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Anonymous wrote:I would not think of UVA or BC as peers to Tufts. Tufts peers are Amherst, Williams and the like.

Except you'd be wrong. For that to be the case, you'd have to have applicants turning down Amherst or Williams for Tufts. Which rarely happens.

Amherst and Williams are colleges not universities.

Amherst and Williams are the "ivy" of colleges they are not even ranked with universities.

Tufts is a university. It's like Brown or Cornell of universities. So yes, Amherst and Williams are more like Harvard and Yale of colleges... but if they had to be compared to Universities, clearly they are not Harvard or Yale.

So it is hard to compare a university like Tufts to colleges like Amherst.

Huh??

You do know there are college rankings and university rankings? Amherst is not ranked with Universities, because it is a college. Go to US news and world report and look at University Ranking you won't find Amherst because it's not a university.