Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They must've done extensive market research to price point these giant SUVs. They know there are a subset of people - mostly men - who will never, ever, EVER buy a minivan. But they absolutely need the seat and storage capacity because of the sheer number of spawn they need to transport.
Therefore, the car companies have figured out the maximum price point where these buyers will endure the most pain to avoid the minivan. And let's say they add a buffer on the MSRP so the dealer can knock $5K-10K off so he's convinced he's "getting a deal."
What do large families in Europe do? I never see minivans or large SUVs over there.
A lot of people I know who have these here have them because they need to tow a boat, a camper, a horse trailer, etc. Minivans are limited to what they can tow. Europeans don't tow all of this stuff.
Anonymous wrote:They must've done extensive market research to price point these giant SUVs. They know there are a subset of people - mostly men - who will never, ever, EVER buy a minivan. But they absolutely need the seat and storage capacity because of the sheer number of spawn they need to transport.
Therefore, the car companies have figured out the maximum price point where these buyers will endure the most pain to avoid the minivan. And let's say they add a buffer on the MSRP so the dealer can knock $5K-10K off so he's convinced he's "getting a deal."
What do large families in Europe do? I never see minivans or large SUVs over there.

Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had no idea! Are they really that great?
https://www.koonstysonschevybuickgmc.com/VehicleSearchResults?search=new&make=GMC&model=Yukon&trim=4WD%204dr%20Denali&year=2021
Nobody actually pays MSRP for any fully kitted high-margin SUV. Yukons are solid for -$10,000 under MSRP. I love them. Nobody does large SUVs better than General Motors.
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Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Don't pollute unless you really need that for your job.
Or you have a big family and/or drive carpool/and/or take lots of trips by car with aforementioned family
Anonymous wrote:I had no idea! Are they really that great?
https://www.koonstysonschevybuickgmc.com/VehicleSearchResults?search=new&make=GMC&model=Yukon&trim=4WD%204dr%20Denali&year=2021
Nobody actually pays MSRP for any fully kitted high-margin SUV. Yukons are solid for -$10,000 under MSRP. I love them. Nobody does large SUVs better than General Motors.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well now it makes sense. My DH went to get our 2009 Denali (low mileage, excellent shape) in for routine service and came back with a new one. He said they were basically throwing it at him. They clearly wanted our used one to sell high.
Dealers have been using these lines for decades. They're always sending postcards and talking up customers who come in for service saying oh we're short on used inventory and there is record-high demand for your <insert vehicle here> so we'll throw money at you just to take that 'ol thing off your hands.
What the dealer wants you to do is, they want you to come on down to the dealership and trade in your old car on a new one. They might not even keep your old car. They might wholesale it to Billy the Wholesale Guy who comes around every Thursday at three with Dunkin’ Donuts. The truth is, they’re just trying to sell some more new cars.
Nothing wrong with upgrading after getting 12 solid years of use out of a vehicle, but do it because it's the right time for you. Not because you're taking advantage of some once in a blue moon opportunity re: your old trade-in and must act now.
Well we got a brand new 2021 for under 45k. Seemed like a great move, I hope Billy the Wholesale Guy enjoys it.