Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 10:07     Subject: Ivy League Recruited Athletes How Do They Do Long Term?
Anonymous wrote:I think Princeton did a study that athletes did better overall in terms salary and donations. It’s not all about test scores.


According to The Price of Admission, that advantage was the result of jobs in financial services, was evident only in the initial years after graduation, and washed out over time.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 10:02     Subject: Ivy League Recruited Athletes How Do They Do Long Term?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They are the “B” students managing the “A” students, because of their political and people skills at a business started by a “c”
Student from public colleges.

"People skills" was only ever enough to become a mediocre lower/middle-management type. And in today's highly technical world, its not even enough to be lower-middle management, as management is expected to keep up technically with the staff.

The overwhelming number of CEOs and executive suite, even moreso today, tend to be those that excelled in an academic environment from an early age, went to magnet schools, etc.

The trope of B-students managing A-students is essentially a trope for dummies to feel good about themselves.

As for athletes in Ivy League schools, these students are more than capable of doing well, especially with the rampant grade inflation at the Ivies where failing a class is impossible. They get tutors, generally come from wealth because sports tend to cost a fortune, went to prep schools and thus have familial connections.

Being an athlete can be an advantage for business schools (MBA), and recruiters look highly upon athletes as they know the student is dedicated and is able to manage time.

Note that the vast majority of Ivy sports are esoteric sports that the vast majority of US population doesn't participate in i.e. equestrian, rowing, skiing, etc., not football, basketball, etc.


There are no recruited athletes for "club" teams at Ivies like skiing and equestrian. Completely irrelevant to this discussion.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 09:25     Subject: Ivy League Recruited Athletes How Do They Do Long Term?
Used to go to a well-known sport club, where it displays the photos of its most successful athletes from each year and their jobs. Indeed, a majority went to Ives (not sure if recruited or not). A lot of the HS graduates before and around early 2000 went to work in the financial industry (IB or HF), but it has become rare in the recent years.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 09:20     Subject: Re:Ivy League Recruited Athletes How Do They Do Long Term?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^Those other teams are rowing, equestrian, polo, et. al. These are sports that require an extremely large parental financial investment from an early age, so no wonder their students do well in academics as well.


My kids sport was track. Shoes are relatively cheap. I met many engineering majors on his team. Several from modest backgrounds.


Also pp listed club sports which are not recruited
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 09:07     Subject: Re:Ivy League Recruited Athletes How Do They Do Long Term?
Anonymous wrote:^Those other teams are rowing, equestrian, polo, et. al. These are sports that require an extremely large parental financial investment from an early age, so no wonder their students do well in academics as well.


My kids sport was track. Shoes are relatively cheap. I met many engineering majors on his team. Several from modest backgrounds.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 08:52     Subject: Ivy League Recruited Athletes How Do They Do Long Term?
Knew a few people

Wharton graduate. self-employed.

Yale graduate. financial advisor.

Stanford. software programmer.

Harvard. Did a string of average jobs.


It's too early to say whether they will be stars in their respective fields.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 08:45     Subject: Re:Ivy League Recruited Athletes How Do They Do Long Term?
^Those other teams are rowing, equestrian, polo, et. al. These are sports that require an extremely large parental financial investment from an early age, so no wonder their students do well in academics as well.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 08:32     Subject: Re:Ivy League Recruited Athletes How Do They Do Long Term?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The OP seems to assume that the curriculum at the Ivies are so tough that above-average students wouldn't be able to cut it or even pass classes.

It's not. Perhaps if we were talking about engineering/physics at MIT or Caltech, OP would have a point. But its impossible to fail humanities courses at any college in America.


This.

Most Ivy athletes are business or communications... not engineering. Maybe 1 or 2 on the roster can handle engineering.


That might be true for football or basketball but there are many engineering majors on other teams. Also many of the teams, particularly women’s teams, have average gpas that are higher than the student body average.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 07:45     Subject: Re:Ivy League Recruited Athletes How Do They Do Long Term?
Anonymous wrote:The OP seems to assume that the curriculum at the Ivies are so tough that above-average students wouldn't be able to cut it or even pass classes.

It's not. Perhaps if we were talking about engineering/physics at MIT or Caltech, OP would have a point. But its impossible to fail humanities courses at any college in America.


This.

Most Ivy athletes are business or communications... not engineering. Maybe 1 or 2 on the roster can handle engineering.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 07:41     Subject: Ivy League Recruited Athletes How Do They Do Long Term?
Just fine. Ivy isn’t all that. The hard part is getting in.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 07:40     Subject: Re:Ivy League Recruited Athletes How Do They Do Long Term?
The OP seems to assume that the curriculum at the Ivies are so tough that above-average students wouldn't be able to cut it or even pass classes.

It's not. Perhaps if we were talking about engineering/physics at MIT or Caltech, OP would have a point. But its impossible to fail humanities courses at any college in America.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 07:33     Subject: Ivy League Recruited Athletes How Do They Do Long Term?
Anonymous wrote:Good with math, good with people. I’d say the folks who I knew who were athletes at a lower Ivy (Penn) fit the bill. This is what Corporations are looking for - not the know it all brainiac who is as conceited as the earlier poster. Remember you have to have skills to motivate your peers and to understand the data you are getting - what better training than being an athlete on a solid team? What is a sport but a very advanced and real time spatial exam? In addition the greatest lesson an athlete learns is time management.


This. College athletes come out with great management (time and team) skills and many make honor roll etc. Many are super smart, especially on certain teams (not ball and football where lower GPAs and test scores are more acceptable because these are moneymaker teams). Data is out there. Employers know and want these skill sets.

-parent of college athlete who had no idea how great sports can be for some students until faced with one of my own
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 07:03     Subject: Ivy League Recruited Athletes How Do They Do Long Term?
Anonymous wrote:Recruits’ minimal requirements are 3.5 HS gpa and 1250 SAT. They do as well as any 3.5 1250 students.


There is actually an Ivy calculator and as GpA slides down SAT must slide up.

You can find it online.

Also very few athletes meet the minimum Ivy calculator results. You have to be a top starter as a freshman and possible Olympic/pro to be considered for the bottom.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 06:37     Subject: Ivy League Recruited Athletes How Do They Do Long Term?
Good with math, good with people. I’d say the folks who I knew who were athletes at a lower Ivy (Penn) fit the bill. This is what Corporations are looking for - not the know it all brainiac who is as conceited as the earlier poster. Remember you have to have skills to motivate your peers and to understand the data you are getting - what better training than being an athlete on a solid team? What is a sport but a very advanced and real time spatial exam? In addition the greatest lesson an athlete learns is time management.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 06:12     Subject: Ivy League Recruited Athletes How Do They Do Long Term?
Anonymous wrote:Recruits’ minimal requirements are 3.5 HS gpa and 1250 SAT. They do as well as any 3.5 1250 students.


If they weren’t recruited athletes people on this board would be arguing whether they are even college material and recommend trade schools.