Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 10:04     Subject: I used to like Taylor Swift, but now I find her annoying.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I also really dislike her bangs and hairstyle in general.

Why are women so hard on women?
You don’t like her bangs? JFC


Yes, I have an opinion on her hairstyle. I'm sorry that it bothers you that you can't control that.



^^^^^ defensive wow!


Np. Reading this thread (plus seeing the numerous threads praising her mediocrity) seems more like Taylor Swift fans are very much the defensive ones.


Nope! You are super defensive.

People like her you don’t, who cares.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 09:52     Subject: I used to like Taylor Swift, but now I find her annoying.
Just want to say Pink’s vocals are underrated.

Also there is a difference between critiquing Taylor as a celebrity (which is a function of our overly celeb obsessed and not a little misogynist culture but I get it—I swim in the cultural waters too) and critiquing her as an artist.

Seems like the OP was doing the former.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 09:36     Subject: I used to like Taylor Swift, but now I find her annoying.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She’s killing it now, but she really would have killed it in the 70s when singer /songwriters were the go to. She is amazing at storytelling. Her vocals have improved through the years, and I give her a lot of credit for that.

It’s an interesting conundrum, because I find people who can sing almost unlistenable sometimes, like Mariah Carey, Celine, and Beyoncé. We all know you can sing the hell out of a cereal box... so stop over singing and tell me a real story. This is also a place I like artists like Pink, Gaga, and Miley... when they decide to really show their talent, it’s incredible.


I’ll never understand this. I rather listen to someone with actual range and pitch then listen to someone struggle sing.

Also, I wouldn’t pull Gaga down to Miley, Pink or Taylor level. Gaga is immensely talented with great vocals.


Miley Cyrus is a fantastic vocalist. Gaga is meh. And you can find a million vocalists with range and pitch in church choirs across the country - songwriting and composition and delivery are much more than that! That said, good vocals are one reason I like country. But good vocals also don’t make up for hackneyed writing and composition and delivery.


Gaga is meh?! Are you kidding me? I think you need to get your ears checked.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 09:35     Subject: I used to like Taylor Swift, but now I find her annoying.
Taylor Swift has a much better voice than Bob Dylan. People just are not very kind towards women with lower vocal ranges.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 09:33     Subject: I used to like Taylor Swift, but now I find her annoying.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She’s killing it now, but she really would have killed it in the 70s when singer /songwriters were the go to. She is amazing at storytelling. Her vocals have improved through the years, and I give her a lot of credit for that.

It’s an interesting conundrum, because I find people who can sing almost unlistenable sometimes, like Mariah Carey, Celine, and Beyoncé. We all know you can sing the hell out of a cereal box... so stop over singing and tell me a real story. This is also a place I like artists like Pink, Gaga, and Miley... when they decide to really show their talent, it’s incredible.


I’ll never understand this. I rather listen to someone with actual range and pitch then listen to someone struggle sing.

Also, I wouldn’t pull Gaga down to Miley, Pink or Taylor level. Gaga is immensely talented with great vocals.


Miley Cyrus is a fantastic vocalist. Gaga is meh. And you can find a million vocalists with range and pitch in church choirs across the country - songwriting and composition and delivery are much more than that! That said, good vocals are one reason I like country. But good vocals also don’t make up for hackneyed writing and composition and delivery.


Your ears hear something differently bc when I hear Miley I hear a lisp and struggle. Gaga has demonstrated her range and talent. You can find a million Miley’s struggling to make it. She got where she is bc of her father.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 09:08     Subject: I used to like Taylor Swift, but now I find her annoying.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She’s killing it now, but she really would have killed it in the 70s when singer /songwriters were the go to. She is amazing at storytelling. Her vocals have improved through the years, and I give her a lot of credit for that.

It’s an interesting conundrum, because I find people who can sing almost unlistenable sometimes, like Mariah Carey, Celine, and Beyoncé. We all know you can sing the hell out of a cereal box... so stop over singing and tell me a real story. This is also a place I like artists like Pink, Gaga, and Miley... when they decide to really show their talent, it’s incredible.


I’ll never understand this. I rather listen to someone with actual range and pitch then listen to someone struggle sing.

Also, I wouldn’t pull Gaga down to Miley, Pink or Taylor level. Gaga is immensely talented with great vocals.


Miley Cyrus is a fantastic vocalist. Gaga is meh. And you can find a million vocalists with range and pitch in church choirs across the country - songwriting and composition and delivery are much more than that! That said, good vocals are one reason I like country. But good vocals also don’t make up for hackneyed writing and composition and delivery.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 09:05     Subject: I used to like Taylor Swift, but now I find her annoying.
Anonymous wrote:She’s killing it now, but she really would have killed it in the 70s when singer /songwriters were the go to. She is amazing at storytelling. Her vocals have improved through the years, and I give her a lot of credit for that.

It’s an interesting conundrum, because I find people who can sing almost unlistenable sometimes, like Mariah Carey, Celine, and Beyoncé. We all know you can sing the hell out of a cereal box... so stop over singing and tell me a real story. This is also a place I like artists like Pink, Gaga, and Miley... when they decide to really show their talent, it’s incredible.


I love Beyonce but I know exactly what you mean! The storytelling is the Nashville/country roots. And there’s a certain niche for singer-songwriters who don’t have the best voices - think Bob Dylan, Springsteen, etc.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 08:33     Subject: I used to like Taylor Swift, but now I find her annoying.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'd rather have my daughters listen to and or admire Swift than filthy skanks like the Jenners, Kardashians, Nicki Minaj and Ariana Grande.


Ariana Grande is downright vanilla, and unlike the other ones you listed, her target market is age 10-13 and her lyrics reflect that. But your misogyny and anger reminds me of something she and her fans went through because someone thought she was a "filthy skank."

22 dead, many of them minors, left to suffer and die for 40 minutes. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/victims-of-manchester-arena-bombing-were-denied-vital-assistance/ar-BB1dzIbS


Np. So I listen to new music by Ariana Grande and she definitely isn’t for kids. She sings about sex. However, I’m guessing her older stuff was geared more for kids? But she’s an adult and unlike Swift she didn’t wait to turn 30 before moving to more adult lyrics. I wouldn’t call her or any woman for that matter a filthy skank bc gross. Idk why someone would need to use that phrase when claiming to raise daughters. How wonderful to grow up in that environment where those terms are used.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 08:02     Subject: I used to like Taylor Swift, but now I find her annoying.
Anonymous wrote:I'd rather have my daughters listen to and or admire Swift than filthy skanks like the Jenners, Kardashians, Nicki Minaj and Ariana Grande.


Ariana Grande is downright vanilla, and unlike the other ones you listed, her target market is age 10-13 and her lyrics reflect that. But your misogyny and anger reminds me of something she and her fans went through because someone thought she was a "filthy skank."

22 dead, many of them minors, left to suffer and die for 40 minutes. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/victims-of-manchester-arena-bombing-were-denied-vital-assistance/ar-BB1dzIbS
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 07:59     Subject: I used to like Taylor Swift, but now I find her annoying.
Anonymous wrote:She’s killing it now, but she really would have killed it in the 70s when singer /songwriters were the go to. She is amazing at storytelling. Her vocals have improved through the years, and I give her a lot of credit for that.

It’s an interesting conundrum, because I find people who can sing almost unlistenable sometimes, like Mariah Carey, Celine, and Beyoncé. We all know you can sing the hell out of a cereal box... so stop over singing and tell me a real story. This is also a place I like artists like Pink, Gaga, and Miley... when they decide to really show their talent, it’s incredible.


I’ll never understand this. I rather listen to someone with actual range and pitch then listen to someone struggle sing.

Also, I wouldn’t pull Gaga down to Miley, Pink or Taylor level. Gaga is immensely talented with great vocals.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 07:55     Subject: I used to like Taylor Swift, but now I find her annoying.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I also really dislike her bangs and hairstyle in general.

Why are women so hard on women?
You don’t like her bangs? JFC


Yes, I have an opinion on her hairstyle. I'm sorry that it bothers you that you can't control that.



^^^^^ defensive wow!


Np. Reading this thread (plus seeing the numerous threads praising her mediocrity) seems more like Taylor Swift fans are very much the defensive ones.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 07:09     Subject: I used to like Taylor Swift, but now I find her annoying.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I also really dislike her bangs and hairstyle in general.

Why are women so hard on women?
You don’t like her bangs? JFC


Yes, I have an opinion on her hairstyle. I'm sorry that it bothers you that you can't control that.



^^^^^ defensive wow!
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2021 07:06     Subject: I used to like Taylor Swift, but now I find her annoying.
She’s killing it now, but she really would have killed it in the 70s when singer /songwriters were the go to. She is amazing at storytelling. Her vocals have improved through the years, and I give her a lot of credit for that.

It’s an interesting conundrum, because I find people who can sing almost unlistenable sometimes, like Mariah Carey, Celine, and Beyoncé. We all know you can sing the hell out of a cereal box... so stop over singing and tell me a real story. This is also a place I like artists like Pink, Gaga, and Miley... when they decide to really show their talent, it’s incredible.
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2021 23:20     Subject: Re:I used to like Taylor Swift, but now I find her annoying.
Anonymous wrote:I think Folklore and Evermore are fantastic. I wish I enjoyed her voice more. It’s good, no doubt about it, but always strikes me as a little one-note. I get bored by it.


She’s not a great vocalist and she had acknowledged such. It’s improved a lot but yeah her tone and range aren’t awesome. Her brilliance is in her songwriting. Kind of like Bob Dylan.
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2021 23:17     Subject: I used to like Taylor Swift, but now I find her annoying.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:maybe over the years, you just grew up...


Says someone who almost certainly hasn’t listened to any of her new albums.


DP. Agree with the PP you were quoting and I "certainly" have listened to her albums, though they were difficult to get through. People can listen to your hero and still not care for her albums.


+1