Anonymous
Post 02/12/2021 21:40     Subject: What if we made this lost year up to parents with a tax break?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a high number of childless people here who are angry about the proposal to help somebody that isn't them.

Plausibly, the only reason you would be here then is that you're teachers.

You are mad parents might get help and not teachers.

So, like, my question is: is teaching the MOST self-centered profession or just close to it?


You must be in terrific shape to make this enormous leap of logic. How do you do it?


Alright, tell me who is likely to be the other group of childless people around here?
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2021 20:31     Subject: What if we made this lost year up to parents with a tax break?
Anonymous wrote:The financial and mental health strain of the last year has been severe for our family, largely due to the loss of both school and childcare. I know we are far from alone.

I think we should consider giving a semi-permanent tax break to families under a certain threshold amount (I feel like 75k/150k for single/dual income households with children would be about right) to help them recover from this. They could use it for tutoring, mental health services, recouping moving costs if they had to relocate during the pandemic, replenishing savings they had to spend on childcare, etc. Again, semi-permanent, maybe it could expire in 5 years (longer if the current situation continues for another year or more). Not sure of the amount, but I think it needs to be substantial. It should be paired with a tax hike on the people who suffered least during the pandemic (the wealthy).

Yep, it's redistribution. But for the last year, the pain of this pandemic has been distributed primarily onto working families. I think we should be compensated for that burden, and I think the people who run and own the business we work for, who stand to benefit from the work are putting into raising kids who will one day be part of that capitalism machine, who have profited off our pain, should pay for it.


I’ve been a poor parent. Post divorce. Tutoring is not where I would have been able to put the extra money back in taxes. I would have bought food, clothing, repaired my car, and paid some overdue bills.
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2021 19:42     Subject: What if we made this lost year up to parents with a tax break?
Anonymous wrote:How many posts have we read about husbands not carrying an equal load? Is this the government's responsibility?


Both parents (if both are there) doing equal share is necessary, but it isn’t a sufficient solution. Two full time jobs + distance learning is too much.
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2021 19:24     Subject: What if we made this lost year up to parents with a tax break?
Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a high number of childless people here who are angry about the proposal to help somebody that isn't them.

Plausibly, the only reason you would be here then is that you're teachers.

You are mad parents might get help and not teachers.

So, like, my question is: is teaching the MOST self-centered profession or just close to it?


You must be in terrific shape to make this enormous leap of logic. How do you do it?
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2021 19:19     Subject: What if we made this lost year up to parents with a tax break?
This sounds like the dumbest idea ever. Especially since the tax rolls of every municipality and state in the US has been decimated by COVID.

This is why we have fiscal stimulus and deficit spending. The child stimulus is a better way to go.
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2021 10:16     Subject: What if we made this lost year up to parents with a tax break?
Some districts are indeed returning funds:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/naperville-sun/ct-nvs-naperville-203-student-fees-st-0203-20210203-j4gdbjyvlzhibittea7sh4nvh4-story.html
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2021 08:59     Subject: What if we made this lost year up to parents with a tax break?
Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a high number of childless people here who are angry about the proposal to help somebody that isn't them.

Plausibly, the only reason you would be here then is that you're teachers.

You are mad parents might get help and not teachers.

So, like, my question is: is teaching the MOST self-centered profession or just close to it?

This is the stupidest thing I’ve ever read. Parents already get tax breaks for the sheer virtue of having children, and are disproportionately using tax payer funded services like schools and parks as well. Do you not realize most teachers are also parents?
Being a parent seems to mean you expect the entire world to kowtow to you, support you financially, and acknowledge that you alone know struggle.
Anonymous
Post 02/12/2021 07:50     Subject: What if we made this lost year up to parents with a tax break?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So families above 150k didn’t have any stress this year?

Here in coastal California, 150k doesn’t buy much. It doesn’t buy a big house (or frankly, any house, in some areas). It doesn’t buy nannies or tutors for multiple children. And it certainly doesn’t buy children that don’t have medical or learning problems.

Any tax break would need to be given to all families in order to be fair, no matter their income.


Yeah, that's a no go. We're never going to pass a relief package that will send money to the children of millionaires and corporate lawyers. I get saying that 150k is too low, there is an argument to be made for that. But it's absolutely true that the stress of the pandemic increases as you go down the income ladder. The people with the least have suffered the most and need the most help. I you don't understand that "to be fair" we need to focus relief on those folks, I can't help you.


Agree. We have money so we hired help (nanny) and the pandemic hasn’t been too bad for us. We know people with a similar HHI, perhaps a bit lower, and they’re keeping their kids out of daycare/not hiring help because they’re cheap and like the extra savings, and simultaneously complaining. No need to help them
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2021 05:26     Subject: What if we made this lost year up to parents with a tax break?
In my region, schools are back. Maybe this tax break should be state specific. Call your governor.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2021 17:06     Subject: What if we made this lost year up to parents with a tax break?
There seems to be a high number of childless people here who are angry about the proposal to help somebody that isn't them.

Plausibly, the only reason you would be here then is that you're teachers.

You are mad parents might get help and not teachers.

So, like, my question is: is teaching the MOST self-centered profession or just close to it?