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Anonymous wrote:You do realize there are plenty of ways to eat protein without meat, right?

The whole protein intake thing is a myth, by the way. You're fine without it.

Sounds to me like you're still taking in too many calories. Also, smoked meat is horrible for you.

Dude. She doesn't want to be a vegan. What is your damage? You suggested it, she said it wasn't for her for a variety of reasons. Perhaps you are so dogged and testy because you are hangry since all you've eaten this month is cabbage.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get rid of that meat. It has too many calories. Become vegan for two months, no pasta or bread. You will lose 10lbs or more in 2,3 months. If you don't cheat more than once a week, and you keep up your exercise.
Make sure you work out is not the kind where you hold onto handles for dear life with hands, or where you are walking at 2mph. That is not exercise, it is hardly doing anything.
Eat cabbage, on pp, gave a recipe for a head of cabbage in an iron skillet in the oven with chicken on top. Don't make the chicken, make the cabbage, Delicious and you can eat it for half an hour and it delish.
The only thing I see from your menu is too many high-calorie meats. High calorie, low volume food.
Watch Greg Doucette on youtube. Best advice ever.
But, yes, weight loss is hard.

^^ sounds like an eating disorder. OP ignore this advice. Especially if don't want major hair loss and sallow skin. 2 servings of meat per day is not "too much meat" OP isn't eating a platter of bacon. She said a piece of chicken or salmon.

Not eating meat = eating disorder? No meat is one of the tenets of a "whole foods, plant-based diet," which has resulted in weight loss and improved health for many. (See "Forks Over Knives," "Eat to Live," etc) Not saying it's what OP has to do, but to say avoiding meat for two months = an eating disorder is a stretch. I think the pp's point is to add higher volume, lower calorie food.

Anonymous wrote:You do realize there are plenty of ways to eat protein without meat, right?

The whole protein intake thing is a myth, by the way. You're fine without it.

Sounds to me like you're still taking in too many calories. Also, smoked meat is horrible for you.

Anonymous wrote:Just a vent. Starting January 1, I started detoxing - no alcohol, no sugar, no simple carbs. Most days I also fast from 7 pm - 11 am.

I started at 158 and am down to 152. I'd love to be below 140, but I think a reasonable goal for me is to stay between 140 - 143. I'm 5'7.

An average day looks like this....

Wake up. Have coffee with sweetener and a splash of milk.

Eat something around 11 a.m. Sometimes 2 eggs w/ mushrooms and turkey smoked sausage, sometimes more lunch food -- a can of soup, cottage cheese and fruit, or dinner leftovers (meat like chicken or pork and some vegetables).

Dinner around 6 pm, usually meat and vegetables - salmon, chicken, pork, occasionally beef, and a vegetable on the side. Sometimes throughout the day I will also have a snack of fruit, a few nuts, or a Triple Zero yogurt.

As far as exercise, I get in 1.5 hours of cardio twice a week, get 30 minutes of cardio 3-4 times a week, do strength/flexibility 2-3 times a week, or on a really light day will just walk a few miles. It's very rare I do absolutely no exercise.

I guess I hoped to lose it faster because I was eating pretty poorly late last year. I don't drink much, but I had gotten very sloppy with sweets and simple carbs and mid-day snacks.

Does this sound like an ok pace? Am I expecting too much?

Anonymous wrote:
Yes. It's hard to well-nigh impossible for people no longer young with slow metabolism.

I gave up from Christmas to now. Preparing myself mentally to start again.

Give me courage!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get rid of that meat. It has too many calories. Become vegan for two months, no pasta or bread. You will lose 10lbs or more in 2,3 months. If you don't cheat more than once a week, and you keep up your exercise.
Make sure you work out is not the kind where you hold onto handles for dear life with hands, or where you are walking at 2mph. That is not exercise, it is hardly doing anything.
Eat cabbage, on pp, gave a recipe for a head of cabbage in an iron skillet in the oven with chicken on top. Don't make the chicken, make the cabbage, Delicious and you can eat it for half an hour and it delish.
The only thing I see from your menu is too many high-calorie meats. High calorie, low volume food.
Watch Greg Doucette on youtube. Best advice ever.
But, yes, weight loss is hard.

^^ sounds like an eating disorder. OP ignore this advice. Especially if don't want major hair loss and sallow skin. 2 servings of meat per day is not "too much meat" OP isn't eating a platter of bacon. She said a piece of chicken or salmon.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get rid of that meat. It has too many calories. Become vegan for two months, no pasta or bread. You will lose 10lbs or more in 2,3 months. If you don't cheat more than once a week, and you keep up your exercise.
Make sure you work out is not the kind where you hold onto handles for dear life with hands, or where you are walking at 2mph. That is not exercise, it is hardly doing anything.
Eat cabbage, on pp, gave a recipe for a head of cabbage in an iron skillet in the oven with chicken on top. Don't make the chicken, make the cabbage, Delicious and you can eat it for half an hour and it delish.
The only thing I see from your menu is too many high-calorie meats. High calorie, low volume food.
Watch Greg Doucette on youtube. Best advice ever.
But, yes, weight loss is hard.

I'm not sure I can be vegan. I play a sport pretty vigorously (right now only twice a week but in the spring it will be 4-5 times a week) and if I don't eat enough protein beforehand I get really lightheaded. I think I have to keep the salmon, lean pork chops, chicken breast, in my diet.

I do find completely avoiding sweets and pasta/bread is the key for me. I have had a lot of problems in the past with just "one piece of birthday cake" that blends into leftovers the next day, and pasta the next, and so on. I have horrible willpower - I wish I could do moderation with sweets and carbs but I find it very, very difficult.

That's BS. You don't need meat to be an athlete. It is a myth. Do you live in the 1960s? Plus, I posted this before I saw how much you lost in a short period of time. But, I stand by it, nobody needs as much meat as you are eating. Meat is full of calories, it is a low volume, high-calorie food.

No it isn't. You are disordered. A serving of 3 oz salmon has 120 calories. A serving of 3 oz chicken breast has 128 calories. While I don't think you NEED meat, you do need protein, and I think lean meat is fine to include if that is how you want to get your protein. A half-head of cabbage is not a nutritional dinner. OP did not ask what is the easiest way to starve herself while still eating "something"

Oh, no another dcum pp called someone disordered! Are you sitting in your dcum diagnostic chair? Athletes do not need to eat meat, nor if they eat it do they need a ton of it. Please try reading what written as opposed to assuming and yelling your head out. If this is op, no wonder you are overweight! You live in some past time where musicle=meat! Even Swarzenneger has changed his view on that, but not our overweight op! I am not disordered, you do not need meat to be an athlete. Plain and simple, fact. If this is op, do you really think at your height and weight you should be calling anyone disordered? And after losing 6lbs in less than a month, which is insane?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get rid of that meat. It has too many calories. Become vegan for two months, no pasta or bread. You will lose 10lbs or more in 2,3 months. If you don't cheat more than once a week, and you keep up your exercise.
Make sure you work out is not the kind where you hold onto handles for dear life with hands, or where you are walking at 2mph. That is not exercise, it is hardly doing anything.
Eat cabbage, on pp, gave a recipe for a head of cabbage in an iron skillet in the oven with chicken on top. Don't make the chicken, make the cabbage, Delicious and you can eat it for half an hour and it delish.
The only thing I see from your menu is too many high-calorie meats. High calorie, low volume food.
Watch Greg Doucette on youtube. Best advice ever.
But, yes, weight loss is hard.

I'm not sure I can be vegan. I play a sport pretty vigorously (right now only twice a week but in the spring it will be 4-5 times a week) and if I don't eat enough protein beforehand I get really lightheaded. I think I have to keep the salmon, lean pork chops, chicken breast, in my diet.

I do find completely avoiding sweets and pasta/bread is the key for me. I have had a lot of problems in the past with just "one piece of birthday cake" that blends into leftovers the next day, and pasta the next, and so on. I have horrible willpower - I wish I could do moderation with sweets and carbs but I find it very, very difficult.

That's BS. You don't need meat to be an athlete. It is a myth. Do you live in the 1960s? Plus, I posted this before I saw how much you lost in a short period of time. But, I stand by it, nobody needs as much meat as you are eating. Meat is full of calories, it is a low volume, high-calorie food.

No it isn't. You are disordered. A serving of 3 oz salmon has 120 calories. A serving of 3 oz chicken breast has 128 calories. While I don't think you NEED meat, you do need protein, and I think lean meat is fine to include if that is how you want to get your protein. A half-head of cabbage is not a nutritional dinner. OP did not ask what is the easiest way to starve herself while still eating "something"

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get rid of that meat. It has too many calories. Become vegan for two months, no pasta or bread. You will lose 10lbs or more in 2,3 months. If you don't cheat more than once a week, and you keep up your exercise.
Make sure you work out is not the kind where you hold onto handles for dear life with hands, or where you are walking at 2mph. That is not exercise, it is hardly doing anything.
Eat cabbage, on pp, gave a recipe for a head of cabbage in an iron skillet in the oven with chicken on top. Don't make the chicken, make the cabbage, Delicious and you can eat it for half an hour and it delish.
The only thing I see from your menu is too many high-calorie meats. High calorie, low volume food.
Watch Greg Doucette on youtube. Best advice ever.
But, yes, weight loss is hard.

I'm not sure I can be vegan. I play a sport pretty vigorously (right now only twice a week but in the spring it will be 4-5 times a week) and if I don't eat enough protein beforehand I get really lightheaded. I think I have to keep the salmon, lean pork chops, chicken breast, in my diet.

I do find completely avoiding sweets and pasta/bread is the key for me. I have had a lot of problems in the past with just "one piece of birthday cake" that blends into leftovers the next day, and pasta the next, and so on. I have horrible willpower - I wish I could do moderation with sweets and carbs but I find it very, very difficult.

That's BS. You don't need meat to be an athlete. It is a myth. Do you live in the 1960s? Plus, I posted this before I saw how much you lost in a short period of time. But, I stand by it, nobody needs as much meat as you are eating. Meat is full of calories, it is a low volume, high-calorie food.