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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know shanann was committing financial infidelity

she was the literal worst. but that doesn't mean she deserved to get murdered.

What’s the story with this? Netflix doc does not cover.

In addition to the MLMs and driving the family into debt (not absolving Chris of his part of this but they lived far, far beyond their means), she just comes across as a deeply unlikeable person, obsessed with social media and attention. It's unclear if her MLM schemes brought in any incomes, and they were up to their eyeballs in debt. She comes across as the sort of person who wants a certain lifestyle and image and will spend to get it, which of course means she's not all that different from a large number of Americans. Obviously, that does not mean she deserved what happened to her, and he clearly deserves the heaviest punishment possible.

But it also shows how we've been conditioned to think less of victims who aren't as sympathetic.

If I recall she was making a decent salary, but their problem was money management. They should have sold that house to get out from under the debt, and rented something cheap to pay their bills. Easy solution, but
you'd be surprised how common that is with many people and professionals. The constant video was very annoying and not healthy for their family life. However, I find Chris and Nicole to be the worst villains. Shanann was what you saw and what you got. Those two were the worst, acting like normal people instead of the horror shows they really were. The worst monsters blend in, but have no problem destroying lives and families.

it was way more than the house...they had debt on a freaking nordstrom credit card. and they were sending their girls to a daycare that cost like $2500/month for 10+ hours a day even though shanann had no job besides the mlm. their house was being foreclosed on. they were on the brink of homelessness. the night of the murder, shanann's credit card was declined for a $50 hair product purchase. i do believe shanann was a shopping addict and i think both of them needed extensive, phd-level psychological help. the mcmansion was just the tip of the iceberg.

The implication of "financial infidelity" is that she was doing things with their money that Chris didn't know about. None of this information supports that--it sounds like he knew what a mess their finances were the whole way through.

really? where have you seen that? I watched an interview of him from the prison in Wisconsin and something that caught my attention was when they asked about finances. Chris replied to almost all questions either incorrectly (basing his answers on what he was told by SW?) or he didn't know. He said he knew the car was being paid for because Le-vel/Thrive was paying the bill. Wrong. Shanann only got a "bonus" to apply to the lease if she met the LeVel sales quota. They asked if Chris knew what "Monat" was - he had no idea. Seems the declined credit card charge the day of the murder was a monthly auto-ship Monat order, they asked several times but Chris had no clue - whereas I think the investigators were hip to all her MLM spending. Chris asked if it was a "sample box" that she got every month or two. I'm assuming that's something like FabFitFun box that he may have seen come in. It goes on and on but made it very clear to me that Chris had absolutely no clue how much (or little) Shanann made trying to recruit people to Thrive or how much she actually spent not only on Thrive products but other MLM products, clothing/shoes for her & the girls, toys, gifts, samples, giveaways, etc.

I do think Chris HAD to have realized they were not doing well financially but from everything I've read it doesn't seem like he knew just how financially destitute they were and facing a real catastrophe. I think that came during the time SW was in NC for several weeks before the murders while he was at home in CO and a cycle of bills and overdue notices began coming in.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know shanann was committing financial infidelity

she was the literal worst. but that doesn't mean she deserved to get murdered.

What’s the story with this? Netflix doc does not cover.

In addition to the MLMs and driving the family into debt (not absolving Chris of his part of this but they lived far, far beyond their means), she just comes across as a deeply unlikeable person, obsessed with social media and attention. It's unclear if her MLM schemes brought in any incomes, and they were up to their eyeballs in debt. She comes across as the sort of person who wants a certain lifestyle and image and will spend to get it, which of course means she's not all that different from a large number of Americans. Obviously, that does not mean she deserved what happened to her, and he clearly deserves the heaviest punishment possible.

But it also shows how we've been conditioned to think less of victims who aren't as sympathetic.

If I recall she was making a decent salary, but their problem was money management. They should have sold that house to get out from under the debt, and rented something cheap to pay their bills. Easy solution, but
you'd be surprised how common that is with many people and professionals. The constant video was very annoying and not healthy for their family life. However, I find Chris and Nicole to be the worst villains. Shanann was what you saw and what you got. Those two were the worst, acting like normal people instead of the horror shows they really were. The worst monsters blend in, but have no problem destroying lives and families.

it was way more than the house...they had debt on a freaking nordstrom credit card. and they were sending their girls to a daycare that cost like $2500/month for 10+ hours a day even though shanann had no job besides the mlm. their house was being foreclosed on. they were on the brink of homelessness. the night of the murder, shanann's credit card was declined for a $50 hair product purchase. i do believe shanann was a shopping addict and i think both of them needed extensive, phd-level psychological help. the mcmansion was just the tip of the iceberg.

The implication of "financial infidelity" is that she was doing things with their money that Chris didn't know about. None of this information supports that--it sounds like he knew what a mess their finances were the whole way through.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know shanann was committing financial infidelity

she was the literal worst. but that doesn't mean she deserved to get murdered.

What’s the story with this? Netflix doc does not cover.

In addition to the MLMs and driving the family into debt (not absolving Chris of his part of this but they lived far, far beyond their means), she just comes across as a deeply unlikeable person, obsessed with social media and attention. It's unclear if her MLM schemes brought in any incomes, and they were up to their eyeballs in debt. She comes across as the sort of person who wants a certain lifestyle and image and will spend to get it, which of course means she's not all that different from a large number of Americans. Obviously, that does not mean she deserved what happened to her, and he clearly deserves the heaviest punishment possible.

But it also shows how we've been conditioned to think less of victims who aren't as sympathetic.

If I recall she was making a decent salary, but their problem was money management. They should have sold that house to get out from under the debt, and rented something cheap to pay their bills. Easy solution, but
you'd be surprised how common that is with many people and professionals. The constant video was very annoying and not healthy for their family life. However, I find Chris and Nicole to be the worst villains. Shanann was what you saw and what you got. Those two were the worst, acting like normal people instead of the horror shows they really were. The worst monsters blend in, but have no problem destroying lives and families.

it was way more than the house...they had debt on a freaking nordstrom credit card. and they were sending their girls to a daycare that cost like $2500/month for 10+ hours a day even though shanann had no job besides the mlm. their house was being foreclosed on. they were on the brink of homelessness. the night of the murder, shanann's credit card was declined for a $50 hair product purchase. i do believe shanann was a shopping addict and i think both of them needed extensive, phd-level psychological help. the mcmansion was just the tip of the iceberg.

Yes but CO those houses were selling in 2 days. They could have easily sold it, then tackled their debt. Yes they needed money management counseling or something.

I find it very odd that on the Saturday evening when the 16 year old babysat the girls, the house was a huge mess.
She apparently told her parents this since the home was always so clean + organized.
Many friends as well as investigators have said this to be so.

And Sunday Chris took his daughters to a birthday party.
So when did the house go from a huge mess >>> spick and span??

If you watch the body cameras online - you can see that the house looked like a showcase home.
Clean, orderly.....as if staged for an open house.
Anyone w/young children knows that after a weekend in the home, there is really no way even a parent can clean a house within 24 Hours.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know shanann was committing financial infidelity

she was the literal worst. but that doesn't mean she deserved to get murdered.

What’s the story with this? Netflix doc does not cover.

In addition to the MLMs and driving the family into debt (not absolving Chris of his part of this but they lived far, far beyond their means), she just comes across as a deeply unlikeable person, obsessed with social media and attention. It's unclear if her MLM schemes brought in any incomes, and they were up to their eyeballs in debt. She comes across as the sort of person who wants a certain lifestyle and image and will spend to get it, which of course means she's not all that different from a large number of Americans. Obviously, that does not mean she deserved what happened to her, and he clearly deserves the heaviest punishment possible.

But it also shows how we've been conditioned to think less of victims who aren't as sympathetic.

If I recall she was making a decent salary, but their problem was money management. They should have sold that house to get out from under the debt, and rented something cheap to pay their bills. Easy solution, but
you'd be surprised how common that is with many people and professionals. The constant video was very annoying and not healthy for their family life. However, I find Chris and Nicole to be the worst villains. Shanann was what you saw and what you got. Those two were the worst, acting like normal people instead of the horror shows they really were. The worst monsters blend in, but have no problem destroying lives and families.

it was way more than the house...they had debt on a freaking nordstrom credit card. and they were sending their girls to a daycare that cost like $2500/month for 10+ hours a day even though shanann had no job besides the mlm. their house was being foreclosed on. they were on the brink of homelessness. the night of the murder, shanann's credit card was declined for a $50 hair product purchase. i do believe shanann was a shopping addict and i think both of them needed extensive, phd-level psychological help. the mcmansion was just the tip of the iceberg.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know shanann was committing financial infidelity

she was the literal worst. but that doesn't mean she deserved to get murdered.

What’s the story with this? Netflix doc does not cover.

In addition to the MLMs and driving the family into debt (not absolving Chris of his part of this but they lived far, far beyond their means), she just comes across as a deeply unlikeable person, obsessed with social media and attention. It's unclear if her MLM schemes brought in any incomes, and they were up to their eyeballs in debt. She comes across as the sort of person who wants a certain lifestyle and image and will spend to get it, which of course means she's not all that different from a large number of Americans. Obviously, that does not mean she deserved what happened to her, and he clearly deserves the heaviest punishment possible.

But it also shows how we've been conditioned to think less of victims who aren't as sympathetic.

If I recall she was making a decent salary, but their problem was money management. They should have sold that house to get out from under the debt, and rented something cheap to pay their bills. Easy solution, but
you'd be surprised how common that is with many people and professionals. The constant video was very annoying and not healthy for their family life. However, I find Chris and Nicole to be the worst villains. Shanann was what you saw and what you got. Those two were the worst, acting like normal people instead of the horror shows they really were. The worst monsters blend in, but have no problem destroying lives and families.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t see how this would be possible if he pleaded guilty during the plea bargain.

Anyone think he is doing this to rat on the mistress?

Are you confusing murder cases?

Chris Watts GF/OW had no hand in the murders or the desecration of the bodies. That was all him. So there’s nothing to charge her with or reduce his sentence with.

Now if this was Jennifer Dulos or Kelsey Berreth, where the OW actually helped clean up the crime scene - then, yeah.

Nicole Kessinger claims she didn't know he was married and yet she searched terms like "marrying your mistress" and "man I'm having an affair with says he will leave his wife." She spent hours looking at Shannann's fb page and in the days before the murder she spent 2 hours looking up wedding dresses on the internet. Those are the facts.

Those are NOT the facts; there's so much info on this case it's easy to look up. She admitted to knowing he was married but believed him that the marriage was ending because his wife and kids were gone for almost two months (not unreasonable to think if he was spending so much time with her and spending nights etc).

She's been investigated throughly & no evidence of her involvement in the murder exists. People hate her because she was the "other woman". But CW killed his family

He was very much married and she knew that. She wasn't involved in directly murdering them but she does bear responsibility in what happened. Why she is so hated.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t see how this would be possible if he pleaded guilty during the plea bargain.

Anyone think he is doing this to rat on the mistress?

Are you confusing murder cases?

Chris Watts GF/OW had no hand in the murders or the desecration of the bodies. That was all him. So there’s nothing to charge her with or reduce his sentence with.

Now if this was Jennifer Dulos or Kelsey Berreth, where the OW actually helped clean up the crime scene - then, yeah.

Nicole Kessinger claims she didn't know he was married and yet she searched terms like "marrying your mistress" and "man I'm having an affair with says he will leave his wife." She spent hours looking at Shannann's fb page and in the days before the murder she spent 2 hours looking up wedding dresses on the internet. Those are the facts.

Those are NOT the facts; there's so much info on this case it's easy to look up. She admitted to knowing he was married but believed him that the marriage was ending because his wife and kids were gone for almost two months (not unreasonable to think if he was spending so much time with her and spending nights etc).

She's been investigated throughly & no evidence of her involvement in the murder exists. People hate her because she was the "other woman". But CW killed his family

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know shanann was committing financial infidelity

she was the literal worst. but that doesn't mean she deserved to get murdered.

What’s the story with this? Netflix doc does not cover.

In addition to the MLMs and driving the family into debt (not absolving Chris of his part of this but they lived far, far beyond their means), she just comes across as a deeply unlikeable person, obsessed with social media and attention. It's unclear if her MLM schemes brought in any incomes, and they were up to their eyeballs in debt. She comes across as the sort of person who wants a certain lifestyle and image and will spend to get it, which of course means she's not all that different from a large number of Americans. Obviously, that does not mean she deserved what happened to her, and he clearly deserves the heaviest punishment possible.

But it also shows how we've been conditioned to think less of victims who aren't as sympathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t see how this would be possible if he pleaded guilty during the plea bargain.

Anyone think he is doing this to rat on the mistress?

Are you confusing murder cases?

Chris Watts GF/OW had no hand in the murders or the desecration of the bodies. That was all him. So there’s nothing to charge her with or reduce his sentence with.

Now if this was Jennifer Dulos or Kelsey Berreth, where the OW actually helped clean up the crime scene - then, yeah.

Nicole Kessinger claims she didn't know he was married and yet she searched terms like "marrying your mistress" and "man I'm having an affair with says he will leave his wife." She spent hours looking at Shannann's fb page and in the days before the murder she spent 2 hours looking up wedding dresses on the internet. Those are the facts.

She was a major pos, also searched Amber Frey etc. I think she should have gotten some kind of jail time, even if just for the lying alone.

Even if she was involved, he's the one that murdered his wife and his own children. He deserves the death sentence.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know shanann was committing financial infidelity

she was the literal worst. but that doesn't mean she deserved to get murdered.

What’s the story with this? Netflix doc does not cover.

She was involved with a bunch of MLMs that were in the red.

The solution to financial infidelity is a separation, not mass murder.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know shanann was committing financial infidelity

she was the literal worst. but that doesn't mean she deserved to get murdered.

What’s the story with this? Netflix doc does not cover.

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t know shanann was committing financial infidelity

she was the literal worst. but that doesn't mean she deserved to get murdered.

I didn’t know shanann was committing financial infidelity