Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 20:02     Subject: Re:Ward 3 has secret COVID vaccine sites for Ward 3 Only! Not on the DC register!

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Anonymous wrote:All vaccines appointments should be made through an (improved) website, telephone and/or customer service kiosk or roving mobile sign up units. Everyone should have the same access according to their category (65+, teacher, whatever). NOT according to zip code. This is a lawsuit waiting to happen.


The reason they've been breaking some appointments out for only certain Zip codes is because residents of the Zip codes they're excluding from those slots have already taken a hugely disproportionate share of the vaccines. Seems like that would be a problem for any lawsuit to overcome. (As would the fact that only some spots are reserved for certain Zip codes, and the fact that what Zip code you live in is not a protected class.)


Also, PPP is ok with triaging by age or profession, but not by location - though its clear that living in a particular location makes you more vulnerable to the virus. The same yardstick is applied- those most vulnerable go first.


It's not the location that makes you vulnerable, it is your underlying health conditions and whether you live in a multi-generational household. All of this could be triaged for. Simply living in "Ward 8" doesn't make you more vulnerable.


This point is completely lost on the Mayor and our City Council. To them, living EoR means you are black and poor and disenfranchised.


There are certainly black and poor people EoR. Being black in itself, or poor doesn't make you more susceptible to Covid. Occupation, living situation, underlying health issues do. They should triage by category, not zip code. Living in a particular location does not make you 'more susceptible' to the virus. It's not like a covid sirrocco blows through Ward 3.


Sorry, "Ward 8"


Way to miss the point. A covid sirrocco in fact does blow through Ward 8, because that's where all the people with the most risk factors concentrate; and the greater concentration of risk means that covid will spread more rapidly. Your argument is like saying "we don't need to send firefighters to the massive fire in Ward 8 because everyon in Ward 3 has fireplaces too!


There are people with the SAME risk factors in other wards. Triage by risk factor, put out the fire. Simply living in Ward 8 is not a Covid Sirocco. The risk factors are.


OMG they ARE triageing by risk factors: age, nursing home status and zip code. They tried opening up the appointments to all comers, and most of them went to people in Ward 2 and 3. Setting aside some extra for certain zip codes makes sense if they're trying to reach more at risk seniors. It's not like the vaccines are going to waste over in ward 8; those are DC residents who are at high risk of contracting the virus, consuming more health care resources to fight it, and having worse outcomes than 65-year old Mrs. Legation Street.


ZIP CODE is not a "risk factor". OMG, what is wrong with your brain??
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 19:25     Subject: Re:Ward 3 has secret COVID vaccine sites for Ward 3 Only! Not on the DC register!

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Anonymous wrote:All vaccines appointments should be made through an (improved) website, telephone and/or customer service kiosk or roving mobile sign up units. Everyone should have the same access according to their category (65+, teacher, whatever). NOT according to zip code. This is a lawsuit waiting to happen.


The reason they've been breaking some appointments out for only certain Zip codes is because residents of the Zip codes they're excluding from those slots have already taken a hugely disproportionate share of the vaccines. Seems like that would be a problem for any lawsuit to overcome. (As would the fact that only some spots are reserved for certain Zip codes, and the fact that what Zip code you live in is not a protected class.)


Also, PPP is ok with triaging by age or profession, but not by location - though its clear that living in a particular location makes you more vulnerable to the virus. The same yardstick is applied- those most vulnerable go first.


It's not the location that makes you vulnerable, it is your underlying health conditions and whether you live in a multi-generational household. All of this could be triaged for. Simply living in "Ward 8" doesn't make you more vulnerable.


This point is completely lost on the Mayor and our City Council. To them, living EoR means you are black and poor and disenfranchised.


There are certainly black and poor people EoR. Being black in itself, or poor doesn't make you more susceptible to Covid. Occupation, living situation, underlying health issues do. They should triage by category, not zip code. Living in a particular location does not make you 'more susceptible' to the virus. It's not like a covid sirrocco blows through Ward 3.


Sorry, "Ward 8"


Way to miss the point. A covid sirrocco in fact does blow through Ward 8, because that's where all the people with the most risk factors concentrate; and the greater concentration of risk means that covid will spread more rapidly. Your argument is like saying "we don't need to send firefighters to the massive fire in Ward 8 because everyon in Ward 3 has fireplaces too!


There are people with the SAME risk factors in other wards. Triage by risk factor, put out the fire. Simply living in Ward 8 is not a Covid Sirocco. The risk factors are.


OMG they ARE triageing by risk factors: age, nursing home status and zip code. They tried opening up the appointments to all comers, and most of them went to people in Ward 2 and 3. Setting aside some extra for certain zip codes makes sense if they're trying to reach more at risk seniors. It's not like the vaccines are going to waste over in ward 8; those are DC residents who are at high risk of contracting the virus, consuming more health care resources to fight it, and having worse outcomes than 65-year old Mrs. Legation Street.


Ha! You have not looked at the zip codes obviously. The Mayor just blanketed the black areas. In doing so she included. Naval Station Anacostia, JAB Andrew's all places with lots of healthy people and Tri-Care. Don't for a minute think that the EoR mandate was not optics without any actual science or study.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 18:24     Subject: Re:Ward 3 has secret COVID vaccine sites for Ward 3 Only! Not on the DC register!

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Anonymous wrote:All vaccines appointments should be made through an (improved) website, telephone and/or customer service kiosk or roving mobile sign up units. Everyone should have the same access according to their category (65+, teacher, whatever). NOT according to zip code. This is a lawsuit waiting to happen.


The reason they've been breaking some appointments out for only certain Zip codes is because residents of the Zip codes they're excluding from those slots have already taken a hugely disproportionate share of the vaccines. Seems like that would be a problem for any lawsuit to overcome. (As would the fact that only some spots are reserved for certain Zip codes, and the fact that what Zip code you live in is not a protected class.)


Also, PPP is ok with triaging by age or profession, but not by location - though its clear that living in a particular location makes you more vulnerable to the virus. The same yardstick is applied- those most vulnerable go first.


It's not the location that makes you vulnerable, it is your underlying health conditions and whether you live in a multi-generational household. All of this could be triaged for. Simply living in "Ward 8" doesn't make you more vulnerable.


This point is completely lost on the Mayor and our City Council. To them, living EoR means you are black and poor and disenfranchised.


There are certainly black and poor people EoR. Being black in itself, or poor doesn't make you more susceptible to Covid. Occupation, living situation, underlying health issues do. They should triage by category, not zip code. Living in a particular location does not make you 'more susceptible' to the virus. It's not like a covid sirrocco blows through Ward 3.


Sorry, "Ward 8"


Way to miss the point. A covid sirrocco in fact does blow through Ward 8, because that's where all the people with the most risk factors concentrate; and the greater concentration of risk means that covid will spread more rapidly. Your argument is like saying "we don't need to send firefighters to the massive fire in Ward 8 because everyon in Ward 3 has fireplaces too!


There are people with the SAME risk factors in other wards. Triage by risk factor, put out the fire. Simply living in Ward 8 is not a Covid Sirocco. The risk factors are.


OMG they ARE triageing by risk factors: age, nursing home status and zip code. They tried opening up the appointments to all comers, and most of them went to people in Ward 2 and 3. Setting aside some extra for certain zip codes makes sense if they're trying to reach more at risk seniors. It's not like the vaccines are going to waste over in ward 8; those are DC residents who are at high risk of contracting the virus, consuming more health care resources to fight it, and having worse outcomes than 65-year old Mrs. Legation Street.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 18:06     Subject: Ward 3 has secret COVID vaccine sites for Ward 3 Only! Not on the DC register!

DC health announced that they'll be vaccinating residents at senior public housing developments, so maybe Regency House is a "secret" site. Plus Sibley, and is there a nursing home in Ward 3 (is Lisner-Louise-Dickson-Hurt Home a nursing home vs. assisted living)? Nursing homes are getting their own allotments through Walgreens and CVS for their residents.

So DCHA, nursing home, and Sibley? That would be 3 Ward 3 places outside of the regular vaccination channels.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 16:59     Subject: Re:Ward 3 has secret COVID vaccine sites for Ward 3 Only! Not on the DC register!

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Anonymous wrote:All vaccines appointments should be made through an (improved) website, telephone and/or customer service kiosk or roving mobile sign up units. Everyone should have the same access according to their category (65+, teacher, whatever). NOT according to zip code. This is a lawsuit waiting to happen.


The reason they've been breaking some appointments out for only certain Zip codes is because residents of the Zip codes they're excluding from those slots have already taken a hugely disproportionate share of the vaccines. Seems like that would be a problem for any lawsuit to overcome. (As would the fact that only some spots are reserved for certain Zip codes, and the fact that what Zip code you live in is not a protected class.)


Also, PPP is ok with triaging by age or profession, but not by location - though its clear that living in a particular location makes you more vulnerable to the virus. The same yardstick is applied- those most vulnerable go first.


It's not the location that makes you vulnerable, it is your underlying health conditions and whether you live in a multi-generational household. All of this could be triaged for. Simply living in "Ward 8" doesn't make you more vulnerable.


This point is completely lost on the Mayor and our City Council. To them, living EoR means you are black and poor and disenfranchised.


There are certainly black and poor people EoR. Being black in itself, or poor doesn't make you more susceptible to Covid. Occupation, living situation, underlying health issues do. They should triage by category, not zip code. Living in a particular location does not make you 'more susceptible' to the virus. It's not like a covid sirrocco blows through Ward 3.


Sorry, "Ward 8"


Way to miss the point. A covid sirrocco in fact does blow through Ward 8, because that's where all the people with the most risk factors concentrate; and the greater concentration of risk means that covid will spread more rapidly. Your argument is like saying "we don't need to send firefighters to the massive fire in Ward 8 because everyon in Ward 3 has fireplaces too!


There are people with the SAME risk factors in other wards. Triage by risk factor, put out the fire. Simply living in Ward 8 is not a Covid Sirocco. The risk factors are.


A grandma with high blood pressure living in a multi-generational household in Ward 2 or Ward 8 should have equal access to the vaccine. Anyway, at this point DC has botched it and Biden is going to take back all the vaccine and set up FEMA tents and whatever rules he wants that will be the same for the whole nation (isn't this what people wanted? personally I'd rather a good local plan, but whatevs)-so not going to worry about DCs weird planning much further.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 16:57     Subject: Re:Ward 3 has secret COVID vaccine sites for Ward 3 Only! Not on the DC register!

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Anonymous wrote:All vaccines appointments should be made through an (improved) website, telephone and/or customer service kiosk or roving mobile sign up units. Everyone should have the same access according to their category (65+, teacher, whatever). NOT according to zip code. This is a lawsuit waiting to happen.


The reason they've been breaking some appointments out for only certain Zip codes is because residents of the Zip codes they're excluding from those slots have already taken a hugely disproportionate share of the vaccines. Seems like that would be a problem for any lawsuit to overcome. (As would the fact that only some spots are reserved for certain Zip codes, and the fact that what Zip code you live in is not a protected class.)


Also, PPP is ok with triaging by age or profession, but not by location - though its clear that living in a particular location makes you more vulnerable to the virus. The same yardstick is applied- those most vulnerable go first.


It's not the location that makes you vulnerable, it is your underlying health conditions and whether you live in a multi-generational household. All of this could be triaged for. Simply living in "Ward 8" doesn't make you more vulnerable.


This point is completely lost on the Mayor and our City Council. To them, living EoR means you are black and poor and disenfranchised.


There are certainly black and poor people EoR. Being black in itself, or poor doesn't make you more susceptible to Covid. Occupation, living situation, underlying health issues do. They should triage by category, not zip code. Living in a particular location does not make you 'more susceptible' to the virus. It's not like a covid sirrocco blows through Ward 3.


Sorry, "Ward 8"


Way to miss the point. A covid sirrocco in fact does blow through Ward 8, because that's where all the people with the most risk factors concentrate; and the greater concentration of risk means that covid will spread more rapidly. Your argument is like saying "we don't need to send firefighters to the massive fire in Ward 8 because everyon in Ward 3 has fireplaces too!


There are people with the SAME risk factors in other wards. Triage by risk factor, put out the fire. Simply living in Ward 8 is not a Covid Sirocco. The risk factors are.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 16:53     Subject: Re:Ward 3 has secret COVID vaccine sites for Ward 3 Only! Not on the DC register!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All vaccines appointments should be made through an (improved) website, telephone and/or customer service kiosk or roving mobile sign up units. Everyone should have the same access according to their category (65+, teacher, whatever). NOT according to zip code. This is a lawsuit waiting to happen.


The reason they've been breaking some appointments out for only certain Zip codes is because residents of the Zip codes they're excluding from those slots have already taken a hugely disproportionate share of the vaccines. Seems like that would be a problem for any lawsuit to overcome. (As would the fact that only some spots are reserved for certain Zip codes, and the fact that what Zip code you live in is not a protected class.)


Also, PPP is ok with triaging by age or profession, but not by location - though its clear that living in a particular location makes you more vulnerable to the virus. The same yardstick is applied- those most vulnerable go first.


It's not the location that makes you vulnerable, it is your underlying health conditions and whether you live in a multi-generational household. All of this could be triaged for. Simply living in "Ward 8" doesn't make you more vulnerable.


This point is completely lost on the Mayor and our City Council. To them, living EoR means you are black and poor and disenfranchised.


There are certainly black and poor people EoR. Being black in itself, or poor doesn't make you more susceptible to Covid. Occupation, living situation, underlying health issues do. They should triage by category, not zip code. Living in a particular location does not make you 'more susceptible' to the virus. It's not like a covid sirrocco blows through Ward 3.


Sorry, "Ward 8"


Way to miss the point. A covid sirrocco in fact does blow through Ward 8, because that's where all the people with the most risk factors concentrate; and the greater concentration of risk means that covid will spread more rapidly. Your argument is like saying "we don't need to send firefighters to the massive fire in Ward 8 because everyon in Ward 3 has fireplaces too!
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 16:49     Subject: Re:Ward 3 has secret COVID vaccine sites for Ward 3 Only! Not on the DC register!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All vaccines appointments should be made through an (improved) website, telephone and/or customer service kiosk or roving mobile sign up units. Everyone should have the same access according to their category (65+, teacher, whatever). NOT according to zip code. This is a lawsuit waiting to happen.


The reason they've been breaking some appointments out for only certain Zip codes is because residents of the Zip codes they're excluding from those slots have already taken a hugely disproportionate share of the vaccines. Seems like that would be a problem for any lawsuit to overcome. (As would the fact that only some spots are reserved for certain Zip codes, and the fact that what Zip code you live in is not a protected class.)


Also, PPP is ok with triaging by age or profession, but not by location - though its clear that living in a particular location makes you more vulnerable to the virus. The same yardstick is applied- those most vulnerable go first.


It's not the location that makes you vulnerable, it is your underlying health conditions and whether you live in a multi-generational household. All of this could be triaged for. Simply living in "Ward 8" doesn't make you more vulnerable.


This point is completely lost on the Mayor and our City Council. To them, living EoR means you are black and poor and disenfranchised.


In a public health setting, it's absolutely reasonable to prioritize using broad measures like zip code or ward. "Triaging" for all those other variables is going to be costly and take a long, long time.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 16:48     Subject: Re:Ward 3 has secret COVID vaccine sites for Ward 3 Only! Not on the DC register!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All vaccines appointments should be made through an (improved) website, telephone and/or customer service kiosk or roving mobile sign up units. Everyone should have the same access according to their category (65+, teacher, whatever). NOT according to zip code. This is a lawsuit waiting to happen.


The reason they've been breaking some appointments out for only certain Zip codes is because residents of the Zip codes they're excluding from those slots have already taken a hugely disproportionate share of the vaccines. Seems like that would be a problem for any lawsuit to overcome. (As would the fact that only some spots are reserved for certain Zip codes, and the fact that what Zip code you live in is not a protected class.)


Also, PPP is ok with triaging by age or profession, but not by location - though its clear that living in a particular location makes you more vulnerable to the virus. The same yardstick is applied- those most vulnerable go first.


It's not the location that makes you vulnerable, it is your underlying health conditions and whether you live in a multi-generational household. All of this could be triaged for. Simply living in "Ward 8" doesn't make you more vulnerable.


This point is completely lost on the Mayor and our City Council. To them, living EoR means you are black and poor and disenfranchised.


There are certainly black and poor people EoR. Being black in itself, or poor doesn't make you more susceptible to Covid. Occupation, living situation, underlying health issues do. They should triage by category, not zip code. Living in a particular location does not make you 'more susceptible' to the virus. It's not like a covid sirrocco blows through Ward 3.


Sorry, "Ward 8"
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 16:47     Subject: Re:Ward 3 has secret COVID vaccine sites for Ward 3 Only! Not on the DC register!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All vaccines appointments should be made through an (improved) website, telephone and/or customer service kiosk or roving mobile sign up units. Everyone should have the same access according to their category (65+, teacher, whatever). NOT according to zip code. This is a lawsuit waiting to happen.


The reason they've been breaking some appointments out for only certain Zip codes is because residents of the Zip codes they're excluding from those slots have already taken a hugely disproportionate share of the vaccines. Seems like that would be a problem for any lawsuit to overcome. (As would the fact that only some spots are reserved for certain Zip codes, and the fact that what Zip code you live in is not a protected class.)


Also, PPP is ok with triaging by age or profession, but not by location - though its clear that living in a particular location makes you more vulnerable to the virus. The same yardstick is applied- those most vulnerable go first.


It's not the location that makes you vulnerable, it is your underlying health conditions and whether you live in a multi-generational household. All of this could be triaged for. Simply living in "Ward 8" doesn't make you more vulnerable.


This point is completely lost on the Mayor and our City Council. To them, living EoR means you are black and poor and disenfranchised.


There are certainly black and poor people EoR. Being black in itself, or poor doesn't make you more susceptible to Covid. Occupation, living situation, underlying health issues do. They should triage by category, not zip code. Living in a particular location does not make you 'more susceptible' to the virus. It's not like a covid sirrocco blows through Ward 3.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 15:53     Subject: Re:Ward 3 has secret COVID vaccine sites for Ward 3 Only! Not on the DC register!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All vaccines appointments should be made through an (improved) website, telephone and/or customer service kiosk or roving mobile sign up units. Everyone should have the same access according to their category (65+, teacher, whatever). NOT according to zip code. This is a lawsuit waiting to happen.


The reason they've been breaking some appointments out for only certain Zip codes is because residents of the Zip codes they're excluding from those slots have already taken a hugely disproportionate share of the vaccines. Seems like that would be a problem for any lawsuit to overcome. (As would the fact that only some spots are reserved for certain Zip codes, and the fact that what Zip code you live in is not a protected class.)


Also, PPP is ok with triaging by age or profession, but not by location - though its clear that living in a particular location makes you more vulnerable to the virus. The same yardstick is applied- those most vulnerable go first.


It's not the location that makes you vulnerable, it is your underlying health conditions and whether you live in a multi-generational household. All of this could be triaged for. Simply living in "Ward 8" doesn't make you more vulnerable.


This point is completely lost on the Mayor and our City Council. To them, living EoR means you are black and poor and disenfranchised.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 14:23     Subject: Re:Ward 3 has secret COVID vaccine sites for Ward 3 Only! Not on the DC register!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All vaccines appointments should be made through an (improved) website, telephone and/or customer service kiosk or roving mobile sign up units. Everyone should have the same access according to their category (65+, teacher, whatever). NOT according to zip code. This is a lawsuit waiting to happen.


The reason they've been breaking some appointments out for only certain Zip codes is because residents of the Zip codes they're excluding from those slots have already taken a hugely disproportionate share of the vaccines. Seems like that would be a problem for any lawsuit to overcome. (As would the fact that only some spots are reserved for certain Zip codes, and the fact that what Zip code you live in is not a protected class.)


Also, PPP is ok with triaging by age or profession, but not by location - though its clear that living in a particular location makes you more vulnerable to the virus. The same yardstick is applied- those most vulnerable go first.


It's not the location that makes you vulnerable, it is your underlying health conditions and whether you live in a multi-generational household. All of this could be triaged for. Simply living in "Ward 8" doesn't make you more vulnerable.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 13:35     Subject: Re:Ward 3 has secret COVID vaccine sites for Ward 3 Only! Not on the DC register!

also the large homeless population and many of those who are without ID's
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 13:26     Subject: Re:Ward 3 has secret COVID vaccine sites for Ward 3 Only! Not on the DC register!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All vaccines appointments should be made through an (improved) website, telephone and/or customer service kiosk or roving mobile sign up units. Everyone should have the same access according to their category (65+, teacher, whatever). NOT according to zip code. This is a lawsuit waiting to happen.


The reason they've been breaking some appointments out for only certain Zip codes is because residents of the Zip codes they're excluding from those slots have already taken a hugely disproportionate share of the vaccines. Seems like that would be a problem for any lawsuit to overcome. (As would the fact that only some spots are reserved for certain Zip codes, and the fact that what Zip code you live in is not a protected class.)





If DC cannot check ID when you go in for the vaccine what is stop someone from lying about their zip code?


Who said they're not checking IDs? Don't you have to show your drivers license when you check in to prove who you are?


Not required to show ID in DC because of a perception it would discriminate against undocumented workers.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2021 12:44     Subject: Re:Ward 3 has secret COVID vaccine sites for Ward 3 Only! Not on the DC register!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All vaccines appointments should be made through an (improved) website, telephone and/or customer service kiosk or roving mobile sign up units. Everyone should have the same access according to their category (65+, teacher, whatever). NOT according to zip code. This is a lawsuit waiting to happen.


The reason they've been breaking some appointments out for only certain Zip codes is because residents of the Zip codes they're excluding from those slots have already taken a hugely disproportionate share of the vaccines. Seems like that would be a problem for any lawsuit to overcome. (As would the fact that only some spots are reserved for certain Zip codes, and the fact that what Zip code you live in is not a protected class.)





If DC cannot check ID when you go in for the vaccine what is stop someone from lying about their zip code?


Who said they're not checking IDs? Don't you have to show your drivers license when you check in to prove who you are?