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Anonymous wrote:I live in Lake Linganore. Used to be a great community. What were forests, hiking trails and vast green spaces are now being bulldozed by Ryan Homes. Linganore, like a lot of Frederick, is changing- for the worse.

I just bought one of those Ryan homes. In every neighborhood, there are always the "oh-so-wise, old-timers" who lament every time there is a new development and someone else invading their space. There are still plenty of green spaces in the area. There were no trails where Ryan is building. Furthermore, they are bringing in amenities that you never had before.

Wow. Not every day you see someone openly admit to this.

I'm assuming you've never stepped foot in one of them but this you're so clever.

Ryan homes have become even more unimpressive within the last five years if that's even possible. Any semblance of molding or design detail has been removed (even as an option) leaving you with essentially a large, empty box to fill with garish decor from Home Goods and Wayfair.

I don't live in a Ryan (or named) home, but really.

If you post this crap like pp you should be required to post a photo inside and out of YOUR home for all to judge.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in Lake Linganore. Used to be a great community. What were forests, hiking trails and vast green spaces are now being bulldozed by Ryan Homes. Linganore, like a lot of Frederick, is changing- for the worse.

I just bought one of those Ryan homes. In every neighborhood, there are always the "oh-so-wise, old-timers" who lament every time there is a new development and someone else invading their space. There are still plenty of green spaces in the area. There were no trails where Ryan is building. Furthermore, they are bringing in amenities that you never had before.

The "oh-so-wise old timers" about whom you disparage have a much deeper history, perspective, and appreciation for the area, and remember it long before your cheap overpriced shack was thrown up on cleared forest land, and before you drove up 270 in your SUV. Furthermore, not everyone wants the "amenities" (e.g., more chain stores, more gas stations,
more signalized intersections, and more pavement) that come with these so-called "new communities."

If you want to get specific, Linganore Hamptons and Woodbridge neighborhoods bulldozed 100s of acres of what were beautiful green space. I am not anti-development, but the Ryan brand of development is gross. Lake Linganore used to be a neighborhood that sought to blend in with the natural environment. New development just bulldozed everything and uses nature and green spaces in its marketing materials.

That is such a load of crap. Before buying from Ryan I looked at other non-Ryan homes on the lake. There are 30, 40 year old homes that are super close together with no rhyme or reason (off of Boyers Mill for example). You just love to hate developers and newcomers.

You are wrong. Compare Coldstream, Balmoral, and Meadows to the new section of Woodbridge and Hamptons. The former has roads that go up and down hills, and curve around the terrain. The new neighborhoods clear cut it all and level the landscape. This makes it easier and cheaper for Ryan Homes to jam as many new homes as they can. Also, where the Hamptons are, used to be a vast network of trails that my neighbors and I hiked, walked, and mountain biked daily. It was also habitat for deer, fox, birds and lots of other wildlife. Gone is the wildlife and now we get filthy runoff into Lake Merhle. My kids used to catch fish there. Now it’s too polluted to sustain life.

The association is doing extensive dredging on Merle. We get reports on the lakes that are part of the association and no, they are not terribly polluted. Either you are very uninformed or just trying to make a point that doesn't exist. You are welcome to look at the testing that the association conduct on their site. People have to live somewhere. For a single mom like myself, I couldn't afford anything closer to DC that has school as good as they are in New Market. Your main complaint seems to be that the roads don't wind around. I find that telling and absurd. Being this hostile towards your new neighbors is not something I expected when I moved up here.

“Uninformed?” Ther is no dredging on Lake Merhle. Dredging is on Lake Linganore. The dredging is needed due to years of over development. When forests are bulldozed, no ground cover to catch sediment.

I am not hostile to newcomers. My disdain is for developers and the crooked politicians who approved all this development.

OK I got Merle in Linganore confused for a second. Either way, this agreement was reached in 2014 with the county which means the sediment problem started long before that. I'm not sure how you can blame just new development for that, but ok.

I said “years” of overdevelopment. This implies it’s been going on for sometime and not just recently. Though the mess flowing into Sewer Merhle, err Lake Merhle, is recent, and due to Hamptons development. Please don’t let this info trouble you. I wouldn’t want to spoil the narrative that Ryan Homes sold you- ample green space, uncrowned schools, pristine lakes...etc.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in Lake Linganore. Used to be a great community. What were forests, hiking trails and vast green spaces are now being bulldozed by Ryan Homes. Linganore, like a lot of Frederick, is changing- for the worse.

I just bought one of those Ryan homes. In every neighborhood, there are always the "oh-so-wise, old-timers" who lament every time there is a new development and someone else invading their space. There are still plenty of green spaces in the area. There were no trails where Ryan is building. Furthermore, they are bringing in amenities that you never had before.

The "oh-so-wise old timers" about whom you disparage have a much deeper history, perspective, and appreciation for the area, and remember it long before your cheap overpriced shack was thrown up on cleared forest land, and before you drove up 270 in your SUV. Furthermore, not everyone wants the "amenities" (e.g., more chain stores, more gas stations,
more signalized intersections, and more pavement) that come with these so-called "new communities."

If you want to get specific, Linganore Hamptons and Woodbridge neighborhoods bulldozed 100s of acres of what were beautiful green space. I am not anti-development, but the Ryan brand of development is gross. Lake Linganore used to be a neighborhood that sought to blend in with the natural environment. New development just bulldozed everything and uses nature and green spaces in its marketing materials.

That is such a load of crap. Before buying from Ryan I looked at other non-Ryan homes on the lake. There are 30, 40 year old homes that are super close together with no rhyme or reason (off of Boyers Mill for example). You just love to hate developers and newcomers.

You are wrong. Compare Coldstream, Balmoral, and Meadows to the new section of Woodbridge and Hamptons. The former has roads that go up and down hills, and curve around the terrain. The new neighborhoods clear cut it all and level the landscape. This makes it easier and cheaper for Ryan Homes to jam as many new homes as they can. Also, where the Hamptons are, used to be a vast network of trails that my neighbors and I hiked, walked, and mountain biked daily. It was also habitat for deer, fox, birds and lots of other wildlife. Gone is the wildlife and now we get filthy runoff into Lake Merhle. My kids used to catch fish there. Now it’s too polluted to sustain life.

The association is doing extensive dredging on Merle. We get reports on the lakes that are part of the association and no, they are not terribly polluted. Either you are very uninformed or just trying to make a point that doesn't exist. You are welcome to look at the testing that the association conduct on their site. People have to live somewhere. For a single mom like myself, I couldn't afford anything closer to DC that has school as good as they are in New Market. Your main complaint seems to be that the roads don't wind around. I find that telling and absurd. Being this hostile towards your new neighbors is not something I expected when I moved up here.

“Uninformed?” Ther is no dredging on Lake Merhle. Dredging is on Lake Linganore. The dredging is needed due to years of over development. When forests are bulldozed, no ground cover to catch sediment.

I am not hostile to newcomers. My disdain is for developers and the crooked politicians who approved all this development.

OK I got Merle in Linganore confused for a second. Either way, this agreement was reached in 2014 with the county which means the sediment problem started long before that. I'm not sure how you can blame just new development for that, but ok.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in Lake Linganore. Used to be a great community. What were forests, hiking trails and vast green spaces are now being bulldozed by Ryan Homes. Linganore, like a lot of Frederick, is changing- for the worse.

I just bought one of those Ryan homes. In every neighborhood, there are always the "oh-so-wise, old-timers" who lament every time there is a new development and someone else invading their space. There are still plenty of green spaces in the area. There were no trails where Ryan is building. Furthermore, they are bringing in amenities that you never had before.

The "oh-so-wise old timers" about whom you disparage have a much deeper history, perspective, and appreciation for the area, and remember it long before your cheap overpriced shack was thrown up on cleared forest land, and before you drove up 270 in your SUV. Furthermore, not everyone wants the "amenities" (e.g., more chain stores, more gas stations,
more signalized intersections, and more pavement) that come with these so-called "new communities."

If you want to get specific, Linganore Hamptons and Woodbridge neighborhoods bulldozed 100s of acres of what were beautiful green space. I am not anti-development, but the Ryan brand of development is gross. Lake Linganore used to be a neighborhood that sought to blend in with the natural environment. New development just bulldozed everything and uses nature and green spaces in its marketing materials.

That is such a load of crap. Before buying from Ryan I looked at other non-Ryan homes on the lake. There are 30, 40 year old homes that are super close together with no rhyme or reason (off of Boyers Mill for example). You just love to hate developers and newcomers.

You are wrong. Compare Coldstream, Balmoral, and Meadows to the new section of Woodbridge and Hamptons. The former has roads that go up and down hills, and curve around the terrain. The new neighborhoods clear cut it all and level the landscape. This makes it easier and cheaper for Ryan Homes to jam as many new homes as they can. Also, where the Hamptons are, used to be a vast network of trails that my neighbors and I hiked, walked, and mountain biked daily. It was also habitat for deer, fox, birds and lots of other wildlife. Gone is the wildlife and now we get filthy runoff into Lake Merhle. My kids used to catch fish there. Now it’s too polluted to sustain life.

The association is doing extensive dredging on Merle. We get reports on the lakes that are part of the association and no, they are not terribly polluted. Either you are very uninformed or just trying to make a point that doesn't exist. You are welcome to look at the testing that the association conduct on their site. People have to live somewhere. For a single mom like myself, I couldn't afford anything closer to DC that has school as good as they are in New Market. Your main complaint seems to be that the roads don't wind around. I find that telling and absurd. Being this hostile towards your new neighbors is not something I expected when I moved up here.

“Uninformed?” Ther is no dredging on Lake Merhle. Dredging is on Lake Linganore. The dredging is needed due to years of over development. When forests are bulldozed, no ground cover to catch sediment.

I am not hostile to newcomers. My disdain is for developers and the crooked politicians who approved all this development.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in Lake Linganore. Used to be a great community. What were forests, hiking trails and vast green spaces are now being bulldozed by Ryan Homes. Linganore, like a lot of Frederick, is changing- for the worse.

I just bought one of those Ryan homes. In every neighborhood, there are always the "oh-so-wise, old-timers" who lament every time there is a new development and someone else invading their space. There are still plenty of green spaces in the area. There were no trails where Ryan is building. Furthermore, they are bringing in amenities that you never had before.

The "oh-so-wise old timers" about whom you disparage have a much deeper history, perspective, and appreciation for the area, and remember it long before your cheap overpriced shack was thrown up on cleared forest land, and before you drove up 270 in your SUV. Furthermore, not everyone wants the "amenities" (e.g., more chain stores, more gas stations,
more signalized intersections, and more pavement) that come with these so-called "new communities."

If you want to get specific, Linganore Hamptons and Woodbridge neighborhoods bulldozed 100s of acres of what were beautiful green space. I am not anti-development, but the Ryan brand of development is gross. Lake Linganore used to be a neighborhood that sought to blend in with the natural environment. New development just bulldozed everything and uses nature and green spaces in its marketing materials.

That is such a load of crap. Before buying from Ryan I looked at other non-Ryan homes on the lake. There are 30, 40 year old homes that are super close together with no rhyme or reason (off of Boyers Mill for example). You just love to hate developers and newcomers.

You are wrong. Compare Coldstream, Balmoral, and Meadows to the new section of Woodbridge and Hamptons. The former has roads that go up and down hills, and curve around the terrain. The new neighborhoods clear cut it all and level the landscape. This makes it easier and cheaper for Ryan Homes to jam as many new homes as they can. Also, where the Hamptons are, used to be a vast network of trails that my neighbors and I hiked, walked, and mountain biked daily. It was also habitat for deer, fox, birds and lots of other wildlife. Gone is the wildlife and now we get filthy runoff into Lake Merhle. My kids used to catch fish there. Now it’s too polluted to sustain life.

The association is doing extensive dredging on Merle. We get reports on the lakes that are part of the association and no, they are not terribly polluted. Either you are very uninformed or just trying to make a point that doesn't exist. You are welcome to look at the testing that the association conduct on their site. People have to live somewhere. For a single mom like myself, I couldn't afford anything closer to DC that has school as good as they are in New Market. Your main complaint seems to be that the roads don't wind around. I find that telling and absurd. Being this hostile towards your new neighbors is not something I expected when I moved up here.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in Lake Linganore. Used to be a great community. What were forests, hiking trails and vast green spaces are now being bulldozed by Ryan Homes. Linganore, like a lot of Frederick, is changing- for the worse.

I just bought one of those Ryan homes. In every neighborhood, there are always the "oh-so-wise, old-timers" who lament every time there is a new development and someone else invading their space. There are still plenty of green spaces in the area. There were no trails where Ryan is building. Furthermore, they are bringing in amenities that you never had before.

They're building on the Indian Caves. You're supporting it.

Can you tell me a little bit about this?

Quoting myself. I googled and found this article. That’s really sad that there are no protections for ancient and archaeological sites on private land.

AKE LINGANORE -- Thousands of years ago, American Indians found shelter in a cave near what is now Boyers Mill Road.

Past archeological studies have turned up many artifacts, such as spears and pottery, from a period covering more than 5,000 years.

The cave's history and unique topography continue to draw local residents today. Yet many of its fans fear the historical site faces ruin in the near future.


The cave sits on property owned by Land Stewards, a Virginia-based developer that is building about 4,000 homes in the Lake Linganore area. Sites targeted for homes include about 11.8 acres surrounding the cave. Houses have already been built near the cave by previous developers.

John Clarke, on behalf of Land Stewards, said the company has never had any plans to disturb the cave.

Residents, however, worried that building houses on a bluff overlooking the cave will shatter the site's atmosphere and appeal, whether or not the cave itself stays intact. They formed a group, Save the Caves, and began lobbying Land Stewards to reconsider its development plans.

The two groups met Tuesday to negotiate possible solutions.

Land Stewards is not required to negotiate but is willing to do so because it wants to be a part of the community for years to come, said Robert Wilcox, president of the firm. He said the company was willing to consider all options except not developing at all in the area around the cave.

The company recently pulled a preliminary plan outlining potential development that it had submitted earlier this year to Frederick County Division of Planning. Residents worried that the plan showed 16 building lots extending nearly to the edge of cave's roof and the surrounding bluff. They stressed their desire that the forest and open space surrounding paths to the cave remain intact.

"We will tie ourselves to trees," joked resident Claudia Allemang.

They said the forest and giant boulders that lead to the cave contribute to its character. If those are removed and replaced with luxury homes, its natural feel of the past will be lost, they said.

The cave was the sixth archeological site in Frederick County registered with the state, said Richard Hughes of Maryland Historical Trust. The earliest known study of the cave took place in 1935 by archeologist E. Ralston Goldsborough. More comprehensive study was undertaken in the 1950s by a Myersville resident, Spencer Geasey.

"I spent three years excavating what was then called the Boyers Mill Rock Shelter," Mr. Geasey said. "... I found numerous stones, spears, arrowheads, scrapers, knives. I found a few animal bones, the remains of what they had eaten."

Due to the damp conditions of the cave, only about 400 bones were recovered, he said. The bones -- primarily of deer, raccoon and turkey -- were identified by the Carnegie Museum of Art in Pittsburgh.

Despite the archeological significance, not much can be done to protect it, he said. Gary Garrison of the Bureau of Indian Affairs, a division of the U.S. Department of Interior, said no federal protections exist for historical sites on privately owned land. Richard Hughes of the Maryland Historical Trust said state or federal regulations that protect some sites probably wouldn't apply to the Boyers Mill Rock Shelter unless it was a burial site

https://www.fredericknewspost.com/archives/cave-in/article_721e3cd8-d8dc-55f1-83e7-64cb0768b8c1.html

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You are wrong. Compare Coldstream, Balmoral, and Meadows to the new section of Woodbridge and Hamptons. The former has roads that go up and down hills, and curve around the terrain. The new neighborhoods clear cut it all and level the landscape. This makes it easier and cheaper for Ryan Homes to jam as many new homes as they can. Also, where the Hamptons are, used to be a vast network of trails that my neighbors and I hiked, walked, and mountain biked daily. It was also habitat for deer, fox, birds and lots of other wildlife. Gone is the wildlife and now we get filthy runoff into Lake Merhle. My kids used to catch fish there. Now it’s too polluted to sustain life.

We have birds, fox, and deer in our yards down here inside the beltway in our neighborhoods!

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Anonymous wrote:I live in Lake Linganore. Used to be a great community. What were forests, hiking trails and vast green spaces are now being bulldozed by Ryan Homes. Linganore, like a lot of Frederick, is changing- for the worse.

I just bought one of those Ryan homes. In every neighborhood, there are always the "oh-so-wise, old-timers" who lament every time there is a new development and someone else invading their space. There are still plenty of green spaces in the area. There were no trails where Ryan is building. Furthermore, they are bringing in amenities that you never had before.

The "oh-so-wise old timers" about whom you disparage have a much deeper history, perspective, and appreciation for the area, and remember it long before your cheap overpriced shack was thrown up on cleared forest land, and before you drove up 270 in your SUV. Furthermore, not everyone wants the "amenities" (e.g., more chain stores, more gas stations,
more signalized intersections, and more pavement) that come with these so-called "new communities."

If you want to get specific, Linganore Hamptons and Woodbridge neighborhoods bulldozed 100s of acres of what were beautiful green space. I am not anti-development, but the Ryan brand of development is gross. Lake Linganore used to be a neighborhood that sought to blend in with the natural environment. New development just bulldozed everything and uses nature and green spaces in its marketing materials.

That is such a load of crap. Before buying from Ryan I looked at other non-Ryan homes on the lake. There are 30, 40 year old homes that are super close together with no rhyme or reason (off of Boyers Mill for example). You just love to hate developers and newcomers.

You are wrong. Compare Coldstream, Balmoral, and Meadows to the new section of Woodbridge and Hamptons. The former has roads that go up and down hills, and curve around the terrain. The new neighborhoods clear cut it all and level the landscape. This makes it easier and cheaper for Ryan Homes to jam as many new homes as they can. Also, where the Hamptons are, used to be a vast network of trails that my neighbors and I hiked, walked, and mountain biked daily. It was also habitat for deer, fox, birds and lots of other wildlife. Gone is the wildlife and now we get filthy runoff into Lake Merhle. My kids used to catch fish there. Now it’s too polluted to sustain life.

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You are wrong. Compare Coldstream, Balmoral, and Meadows to the new section of Woodbridge and Hamptons. The former has roads that go up and down hills, and curve around the terrain. The new neighborhoods clear cut it all and level the landscape. This makes it easier and cheaper for Ryan Homes to jam as many new homes as they can. Also, where the Hamptons are, used to be a vast network of trails that my neighbors and I hiked, walked, and mountain biked daily. It was also habitat for deer, fox, birds and lots of other wildlife. Gone is the wildlife and now we get filthy runoff into Lake Merhle. My kids used to catch fish there. Now it’s too polluted to sustain life.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in Lake Linganore. Used to be a great community. What were forests, hiking trails and vast green spaces are now being bulldozed by Ryan Homes. Linganore, like a lot of Frederick, is changing- for the worse.

I just bought one of those Ryan homes. In every neighborhood, there are always the "oh-so-wise, old-timers" who lament every time there is a new development and someone else invading their space. There are still plenty of green spaces in the area. There were no trails where Ryan is building. Furthermore, they are bringing in amenities that you never had before.

Wow. Not every day you see someone openly admit to this.

I'm assuming you've never stepped foot in one of them but this you're so clever.

Ryan homes have become even more unimpressive within the last five years if that's even possible. Any semblance of molding or design detail has been removed (even as an option) leaving you with essentially a large, empty box to fill with garish decor from Home Goods and Wayfair.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in Lake Linganore. Used to be a great community. What were forests, hiking trails and vast green spaces are now being bulldozed by Ryan Homes. Linganore, like a lot of Frederick, is changing- for the worse.

I just bought one of those Ryan homes. In every neighborhood, there are always the "oh-so-wise, old-timers" who lament every time there is a new development and someone else invading their space. There are still plenty of green spaces in the area. There were no trails where Ryan is building. Furthermore, they are bringing in amenities that you never had before.

They're building on the Indian Caves. You're supporting it.

Can you tell me a little bit about this?