Anonymous
Post 01/03/2021 22:44     Subject: We need to build more: gentrification caused by blocking housing construction (not the opposite!)

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Anonymous wrote:Why are we looking for more apartments in DC? There is a glut of available apartments. Walk to ANY complex and you will see units available. Why are we building more and more, when you can get insane deals on the ones that are here? Has anybody seen a sign on a building saying "sorry, no units available"?


Define "insane deals" please?


Months of free rent.

It used to be that sometimes you would see that your move in month was free. Now there are signs all over that say no rent in 2020 (Those signs were up in September). First and last month free. Three months no rent once on one year anniversary...


How many months, and what's the rent when it isn't free?


group homes, basement apartments, room-mates, living with parents or a longer commute. that's what we did when we were "millenials"


Millennials are now pushing 40, is that what you think grown adults with families should do? Is that what you did when you were 40?


NP. Yeah, move to where it's more affordable like Fairfax, or further out near Haymarket. I would live to live on the beach in San Diego but that's life. I don't know anyone waiting around for the govt to rescue them from income inequality.


When i was pushing 40 I lived in DC in a tiny apartment with my family because I liked the location. Now I live in a house (pushing 50) and still like the location. So yeah. that's what I did when I was 40. Grow up!
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2021 21:58     Subject: We need to build more: gentrification caused by blocking housing construction (not the opposite!)

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Anonymous wrote:Why are we looking for more apartments in DC? There is a glut of available apartments. Walk to ANY complex and you will see units available. Why are we building more and more, when you can get insane deals on the ones that are here? Has anybody seen a sign on a building saying "sorry, no units available"?


Define "insane deals" please?


Months of free rent.

It used to be that sometimes you would see that your move in month was free. Now there are signs all over that say no rent in 2020 (Those signs were up in September). First and last month free. Three months no rent once on one year anniversary...


How many months, and what's the rent when it isn't free?


group homes, basement apartments, room-mates, living with parents or a longer commute. that's what we did when we were "millenials"


Millennials are now pushing 40, is that what you think grown adults with families should do? Is that what you did when you were 40?


NP. Yeah, move to where it's more affordable like Fairfax, or further out near Haymarket. I would live to live on the beach in San Diego but that's life. I don't know anyone waiting around for the govt to rescue them from income inequality.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2021 21:46     Subject: We need to build more: gentrification caused by blocking housing construction (not the opposite!)

I think the first upzoning project should be an eminent-domain takeover of David Alpert's house. It's a single-family home less than a half-mile to the Metro, which should not be allowed in the eyes of many here. Just a horrible use of that land. If that home was in Ward 3, he'd demand that an apartment building be built on that land, so let's start with him.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2021 21:43     Subject: We need to build more: gentrification caused by blocking housing construction (not the opposite!)

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Why are we looking for more apartments in DC? There is a glut of available apartments. Walk to ANY complex and you will see units available. Why are we building more and more, when you can get insane deals on the ones that are here? Has anybody seen a sign on a building saying "sorry, no units available"?


Define "insane deals" please?


Months of free rent.

It used to be that sometimes you would see that your move in month was free. Now there are signs all over that say no rent in 2020 (Those signs were up in September). First and last month free. Three months no rent once on one year anniversary...


How many months, and what's the rent when it isn't free?


group homes, basement apartments, room-mates, living with parents or a longer commute. that's what we did when we were "millenials"


Millennials are now pushing 40, is that what you think grown adults with families should do? Is that what you did when you were 40?


3 Bedroom Apartments in DC for 3K a month. Where do you want them to live?
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2021 20:42     Subject: We need to build more: gentrification caused by blocking housing construction (not the opposite!)

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Why are we looking for more apartments in DC? There is a glut of available apartments. Walk to ANY complex and you will see units available. Why are we building more and more, when you can get insane deals on the ones that are here? Has anybody seen a sign on a building saying "sorry, no units available"?


Define "insane deals" please?


Months of free rent.

It used to be that sometimes you would see that your move in month was free. Now there are signs all over that say no rent in 2020 (Those signs were up in September). First and last month free. Three months no rent once on one year anniversary...


How many months, and what's the rent when it isn't free?


group homes, basement apartments, room-mates, living with parents or a longer commute. that's what we did when we were "millenials"


Millennials are now pushing 40, is that what you think grown adults with families should do? Is that what you did when you were 40?
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2021 20:25     Subject: We need to build more: gentrification caused by blocking housing construction (not the opposite!)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are we looking for more apartments in DC? There is a glut of available apartments. Walk to ANY complex and you will see units available. Why are we building more and more, when you can get insane deals on the ones that are here? Has anybody seen a sign on a building saying "sorry, no units available"?


Define "insane deals" please?


Months of free rent.

It used to be that sometimes you would see that your move in month was free. Now there are signs all over that say no rent in 2020 (Those signs were up in September). First and last month free. Three months no rent once on one year anniversary...


How many months, and what's the rent when it isn't free?


group homes, basement apartments, room-mates, living with parents or a longer commute. that's what we did when we were "millenials"
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2021 19:34     Subject: We need to build more: gentrification caused by blocking housing construction (not the opposite!)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are we looking for more apartments in DC? There is a glut of available apartments. Walk to ANY complex and you will see units available. Why are we building more and more, when you can get insane deals on the ones that are here? Has anybody seen a sign on a building saying "sorry, no units available"?


Define "insane deals" please?


Months of free rent.

It used to be that sometimes you would see that your move in month was free. Now there are signs all over that say no rent in 2020 (Those signs were up in September). First and last month free. Three months no rent once on one year anniversary...


How many months, and what's the rent when it isn't free?
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2021 18:39     Subject: We need to build more: gentrification caused by blocking housing construction (not the opposite!)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are we looking for more apartments in DC? There is a glut of available apartments. Walk to ANY complex and you will see units available. Why are we building more and more, when you can get insane deals on the ones that are here? Has anybody seen a sign on a building saying "sorry, no units available"?


Define "insane deals" please?


Months of free rent.

It used to be that sometimes you would see that your move in month was free. Now there are signs all over that say no rent in 2020 (Those signs were up in September). First and last month free. Three months no rent once on one year anniversary...
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2021 18:36     Subject: We need to build more: gentrification caused by blocking housing construction (not the opposite!)

Anonymous wrote:Why are we looking for more apartments in DC? There is a glut of available apartments. Walk to ANY complex and you will see units available. Why are we building more and more, when you can get insane deals on the ones that are here? Has anybody seen a sign on a building saying "sorry, no units available"?


Define "insane deals" please?
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2021 18:35     Subject: Re:We need to build more: gentrification caused by blocking housing construction (not the opposite!)

Anonymous wrote:I admittedly know nothing about this subject, but does increasing density really have a significant impact on lowering rents?

Density in Manhattan is insane, as is the cost of housing.

I don't really get the obsession with this issue. If you can't afford to live in DC, move to the burbs like 80% of people living in this area.


No, but increasing the supply relative to the demand really does have a significant impact on the market-clearing price.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2021 17:48     Subject: We need to build more: gentrification caused by blocking housing construction (not the opposite!)

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Anonymous wrote:Architect here. Most of the cost of new housing in dc is dealing with the totally insane bureaucracy. It’s shameful. There should be a lot more public outrage about it.

+1

The cost of building an ADU is absurd because of the bureaucracy. Doesn't make any sense.


That bureaucracy is zoning law.

We need to roll back zoning laws, including those that allow abutters to object to new housing.

That will lead us to build more (which really is Economics 101: at high demand more supply means lower prices.)

And building more will lead to lower housing costs.

Say yes to new housing. Yes In My Backyard. YIMBY.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2021 15:02     Subject: We need to build more: gentrification caused by blocking housing construction (not the opposite!)

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Anonymous wrote:Upzone Ward 3 because it’s mostly zoned for single family homes.
Much of Ward 8 is already upzoned.
See here https://ggwash.org/view/70232/washington-region-single-family-zoning-an-update

I do appreciate the trolling effort to divide this thread on race, though. 10 points for effort.


Then why not pour effort into "vibrant density" there, businesses and housing--the loop that makes a neighborhood livable and attractive? Much of Ward 8 could use supermarkets etc. OR is this just about making money for developers?


These build, build, build GGW trolls are not interested in actually making anybody's life any better, only building. They want to build anything at any cost. The idea of building a grocery store or a health clinic does not appeal as it would be one and done. Not enough loot to go around.

No you can really spread the money around these types with more housing that we apparently already have.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2021 14:24     Subject: We need to build more: gentrification caused by blocking housing construction (not the opposite!)

Anonymous wrote:Architect here. Most of the cost of new housing in dc is dealing with the totally insane bureaucracy. It’s shameful. There should be a lot more public outrage about it.

+1

The cost of building an ADU is absurd because of the bureaucracy. Doesn't make any sense.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2021 14:16     Subject: We need to build more: gentrification caused by blocking housing construction (not the opposite!)

Anonymous wrote:Upzone Ward 3 because it’s mostly zoned for single family homes.
Much of Ward 8 is already upzoned.
See here https://ggwash.org/view/70232/washington-region-single-family-zoning-an-update

I do appreciate the trolling effort to divide this thread on race, though. 10 points for effort.


Then why not pour effort into "vibrant density" there, businesses and housing--the loop that makes a neighborhood livable and attractive? Much of Ward 8 could use supermarkets etc. OR is this just about making money for developers?
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2021 12:18     Subject: We need to build more: gentrification caused by blocking housing construction (not the opposite!)

Anonymous wrote:Upzone Ward 3 because it’s mostly zoned for single family homes.
Much of Ward 8 is already upzoned.
See here https://ggwash.org/view/70232/washington-region-single-family-zoning-an-update

I do appreciate the trolling effort to divide this thread on race, though. 10 points for effort.


GGW never misses an opportunity to massage the data to fit the narrative.