Anonymous
12/26/2020 12:22
Subject: Bridgerton: new Netflix series
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wonder what they do with the infamous rape/nonconsensual scene.
That’s not rape. I read the Vox article, and I found it troubling to equate the scene with rape.
And, the whole storyline is irrational.
“I love you so deeply, but I won’t sleep with you anymore.” Riiiiiiiight.
IDK, wouldn't we consider it a type of rape now in 2020 if a woman manipulated a man into impregnating her against his wishes?
Trapping a man with a pregnancy is NOT the same as rape. He wasn’t forced to have sex. And, in 2020, men can opt for a condom.
The scene was just yet another ridiculous piece of the weak, unbelievable story. It was less disturbing than the pulling out scenes.
She deliberately gets him drunk in order to "take advantage" of him and, iirc, he even tells her during the act that he doesn't want to come in her and she refuses to let him pull out.
If a man did that to a woman, it would be rape.
None of that happens in the Netflix series.
How do they portray it? I haven't seen the series yet.
He initiates, they quickly hop into bed, she gets on top, he literally kicks back with a big grin obviously enjoying it, some heavy thrusting and then he quietly mumbles wait but finishes inside. Then she quickly hops off and starts a fight for him lying to her.
Not rape at all.
Anonymous
12/26/2020 12:22
Subject: Bridgerton: new Netflix series
Also from that Vox article:
I should note here that an even more nonconsensual version of this scene also occurs in the novel. Quinn clearly wrote the scenario as a violation: “Daphne had aroused him in his sleep, taken advantage of him while he was still slightly intoxicated, and held him to her while he poured his seed into her.”
https://www.vox.com/22194033/bridgerton-netflix-rape-scene-novel
I should note here that an even more nonconsensual version of this scene also occurs in the novel. Quinn clearly wrote the scenario as a violation: “Daphne had aroused him in his sleep, taken advantage of him while he was still slightly intoxicated, and held him to her while he poured his seed into her.”
https://www.vox.com/22194033/bridgerton-netflix-rape-scene-novel
Anonymous
12/26/2020 12:20
Subject: Bridgerton: new Netflix series
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wonder what they do with the infamous rape/nonconsensual scene.
That’s not rape. I read the Vox article, and I found it troubling to equate the scene with rape.
And, the whole storyline is irrational.
“I love you so deeply, but I won’t sleep with you anymore.” Riiiiiiiight.
IDK, wouldn't we consider it a type of rape now in 2020 if a woman manipulated a man into impregnating her against his wishes?
Trapping a man with a pregnancy is NOT the same as rape. He wasn’t forced to have sex. And, in 2020, men can opt for a condom.
The scene was just yet another ridiculous piece of the weak, unbelievable story. It was less disturbing than the pulling out scenes.
She deliberately gets him drunk in order to "take advantage" of him and, iirc, he even tells her during the act that he doesn't want to come in her and she refuses to let him pull out.
If a man did that to a woman, it would be rape.
None of that happens in the Netflix series.
This is from that vox articleL:
Eventually, Daphne figures out that there’s some connection between Simon never completing the act and his insistence that he can’t have children. Determined to figure out whether he’s capable of it, she takes control during sex and positions herself on top of him so he can’t pull out.
When he realizes his predicament right before orgasm, Simon looks alarmed and tries to stop — he cries out twice for Daphne to wait — but it’s too late. Once she’s achieved her goal, she stops, and he processes what just happened in shock.
https://www.vox.com/22194033/bridgerton-netflix-rape-scene-novel
Anonymous
12/26/2020 12:17
Subject: Bridgerton: new Netflix series
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wonder what they do with the infamous rape/nonconsensual scene.
That’s not rape. I read the Vox article, and I found it troubling to equate the scene with rape.
And, the whole storyline is irrational.
“I love you so deeply, but I won’t sleep with you anymore.” Riiiiiiiight.
IDK, wouldn't we consider it a type of rape now in 2020 if a woman manipulated a man into impregnating her against his wishes?
Trapping a man with a pregnancy is NOT the same as rape. He wasn’t forced to have sex. And, in 2020, men can opt for a condom.
The scene was just yet another ridiculous piece of the weak, unbelievable story. It was less disturbing than the pulling out scenes.
She deliberately gets him drunk in order to "take advantage" of him and, iirc, he even tells her during the act that he doesn't want to come in her and she refuses to let him pull out.
If a man did that to a woman, it would be rape.
None of that happens in the Netflix series.
How do they portray it? I haven't seen the series yet.
Anonymous
12/26/2020 12:16
Subject: Bridgerton: new Netflix series
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wonder what they do with the infamous rape/nonconsensual scene.
That’s not rape. I read the Vox article, and I found it troubling to equate the scene with rape.
And, the whole storyline is irrational.
“I love you so deeply, but I won’t sleep with you anymore.” Riiiiiiiight.
IDK, wouldn't we consider it a type of rape now in 2020 if a woman manipulated a man into impregnating her against his wishes?
Trapping a man with a pregnancy is NOT the same as rape. He wasn’t forced to have sex. And, in 2020, men can opt for a condom.
The scene was just yet another ridiculous piece of the weak, unbelievable story. It was less disturbing than the pulling out scenes.
She deliberately gets him drunk in order to "take advantage" of him and, iirc, he even tells her during the act that he doesn't want to come in her and she refuses to let him pull out.
If a man did that to a woman, it would be rape.
None of that happens in the Netflix series.
Anonymous
12/26/2020 12:04
Subject: Bridgerton: new Netflix series
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope we will find out who Lady Whistledown is. It could be the independent outspoken sister but that seems to obvious.
You can tell it’s Julie Andreas’ voice.
Lol. You solved it!
Anonymous
12/26/2020 12:03
Subject: Re:Bridgerton: new Netflix series
Agree part of it has a weak story line - in many of the books- but they are filled with humor and fun family communications that you overlook that in the typical period romance...or you wouldn’t have anything to read. Much less gratuitous sex than Outlander. They reworked the scene from the book to make it less non consensual....
Anonymous
12/26/2020 11:57
Subject: Bridgerton: new Netflix series
I managed to binge this whole thing in a day. My husband watched a bunch of it too. This is based on a bodice-ripper style romance novel set in the regency era. The costumes, sets, and music are amazing. The men are hot. And there is a happy ending. If you like romance novels, you will like this series. Don't bother if you don't like unnecessary relationship drama or if you like to overthink the plot. It might drive you crazy. Even is the hero pulled out all the time, these two have so much sex that she would have ended up pregnant anyway.
Anonymous
12/26/2020 11:54
Subject: Bridgerton: new Netflix series
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wonder what they do with the infamous rape/nonconsensual scene.
That’s not rape. I read the Vox article, and I found it troubling to equate the scene with rape.
And, the whole storyline is irrational.
“I love you so deeply, but I won’t sleep with you anymore.” Riiiiiiiight.
IDK, wouldn't we consider it a type of rape now in 2020 if a woman manipulated a man into impregnating her against his wishes?
Trapping a man with a pregnancy is NOT the same as rape. He wasn’t forced to have sex. And, in 2020, men can opt for a condom.
The scene was just yet another ridiculous piece of the weak, unbelievable story. It was less disturbing than the pulling out scenes.
She deliberately gets him drunk in order to "take advantage" of him and, iirc, he even tells her during the act that he doesn't want to come in her and she refuses to let him pull out.
If a man did that to a woman, it would be rape.
Anonymous
12/26/2020 11:51
Subject: Bridgerton: new Netflix series
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wonder what they do with the infamous rape/nonconsensual scene.
That’s not rape. I read the Vox article, and I found it troubling to equate the scene with rape.
And, the whole storyline is irrational.
“I love you so deeply, but I won’t sleep with you anymore.” Riiiiiiiight.
IDK, wouldn't we consider it a type of rape now in 2020 if a woman manipulated a man into impregnating her against his wishes?
Trapping a man with a pregnancy is NOT the same as rape. He wasn’t forced to have sex. And, in 2020, men can opt for a condom.
The scene was just yet another ridiculous piece of the weak, unbelievable story. It was less disturbing than the pulling out scenes.
Anonymous
12/26/2020 11:49
Subject: Bridgerton: new Netflix series
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It reminds of Drive Me Crazy.
I wish they would have cast a better Daphne. She’s too plain.
I love seeing Nicola from Derry Girls!
+1 to this, but not so much because of her looks. She seems mismatched to the Duke. Unlike Outlander where Clair and Jamie seemed matched, Daphne seems more like a girl, rather than a woman. I didn't read the books though so maybe this is how the character is supposed to be.
Daphne is plain and girlish in the books though. I haven't seen the show yet but the Duke is supposed to be way out of her league in every way possible (socially, financially, even looks wise). That's why they become friends first, because neither assumes there will ever be anything between them, and it will be mutually beneficial, He doesn't want to get married at all and she's having a hard time finding a husband. All the men look at her like a "little sister/friend" type. So she will repel husband hunters for him and his interest in her will make her more valuable to other men.
thanks - the casting makes sense then.
Anonymous
12/26/2020 11:47
Subject: Bridgerton: new Netflix series
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wonder what they do with the infamous rape/nonconsensual scene.
That’s not rape. I read the Vox article, and I found it troubling to equate the scene with rape.
And, the whole storyline is irrational.
“I love you so deeply, but I won’t sleep with you anymore.” Riiiiiiiight.
IDK, wouldn't we consider it a type of rape now in 2020 if a woman manipulated a man into impregnating her against his wishes?
Anonymous
12/26/2020 11:46
Subject: Bridgerton: new Netflix series
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It reminds of Drive Me Crazy.
I wish they would have cast a better Daphne. She’s too plain.
I love seeing Nicola from Derry Girls!
+1 to this, but not so much because of her looks. She seems mismatched to the Duke. Unlike Outlander where Clair and Jamie seemed matched, Daphne seems more like a girl, rather than a woman. I didn't read the books though so maybe this is how the character is supposed to be.
Daphne is plain and girlish in the books though. I haven't seen the show yet but the Duke is supposed to be way out of her league in every way possible (socially, financially, even looks wise). That's why they become friends first, because neither assumes there will ever be anything between them, and it will be mutually beneficial, He doesn't want to get married at all and she's having a hard time finding a husband. All the men look at her like a "little sister/friend" type. So she will repel husband hunters for him and his interest in her will make her more valuable to other men.
Anonymous
12/26/2020 11:45
Subject: Bridgerton: new Netflix series
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It reminds of Drive Me Crazy.
I wish they would have cast a better Daphne. She’s too plain.
I love seeing Nicola from Derry Girls!
+1 to this, but not so much because of her looks. She seems mismatched to the Duke. Unlike Outlander where Clair and Jamie seemed matched, Daphne seems more like a girl, rather than a woman. I didn't read the books though so maybe this is how the character is supposed to be.
Not just a girl...but a plain, boring girl.
They needed someone with a personality like Kate Winslet in Titanic or Keira Knightly in Pirates of the Caribbean (or anything, really).
Anonymous
12/26/2020 11:44
Subject: Bridgerton: new Netflix series
Anonymous wrote:I wonder what they do with the infamous rape/nonconsensual scene.
That’s not rape. I read the Vox article, and I found it troubling to equate the scene with rape.
And, the whole storyline is irrational.
“I love you so deeply, but I won’t sleep with you anymore.” Riiiiiiiight.