Anonymous
12/24/2020 05:39
Subject: Re:MLSNext vs ECNL
[quote=Anonymous]Clubs switching from DA to ECNL and then making people believe that ECNL is the reason for the pathway for college is BS. Its as shameful as the P2P. Now we are lucky enough to have the super ecnl league. Keep filling the dirty over saturated tub with more water.[/quote]
Why is P2P shameful?
Why is P2P shameful?
Anonymous
12/24/2020 00:12
Subject: Re:MLSNext vs ECNL
DA > ECNL, therefore MLSNext > ECNL.
Anonymous
12/23/2020 23:12
Subject: Re:MLSNext vs ECNL
Clubs switching from DA to ECNL and then making people believe that ECNL is the reason for the pathway for college is BS. Its as shameful as the P2P. Now we are lucky enough to have the super ecnl league. Keep filling the dirty over saturated tub with more water.
Anonymous
12/23/2020 20:07
Subject: Re:MLSNext vs ECNL
Anonymous wrote:As much chop and change as we've seen in youth soccer in recent years, I think there is value in being attached to a league/structure/pathway that is stable and provides some certainty about what the future looks like.
I am guessing that it is exhausting for those players and parents who switch clubs every year in search of better teams/coaches.
Nobody is saying that one should switch every year. But talent confers the ability to do so and focuses the player on individual development, team competitiveness and coaching excellence. You also can have switching without changing leagues and you can have stability on the same team but instability with clubs switching leagues. I don't think leagues mean stability, and if stability means stable rosters, you are talking about country clubs, not competitive sports teams. And with respect to league stability, what on earth are you talking about? Weren't VDA, McLean, Loudoun and Arlington just part of USSDA? Weren't BRYC, McLean and Loudoun also in CCL for top boys teams not in DA?
Ultimately, I think we agree - if you want stability, a guaranteed spot, and the ability to talk about your league more than your own talent on the boys side, I think it's pretty obvious ECNL is the right choice. Looks more like a treadmill than a path way but, with treadmills, you know what you're getting, we all agree.
Anonymous
12/23/2020 17:12
Subject: Re:MLSNext vs ECNL
Both scores were wrong. Bethesda tied DCU. Bethesda lost to PDA by one and Bethesda had a field player in goal because Bethesda's goalie was out. All of Bethesda's games have been very competitive.
Anonymous
12/23/2020 14:26
Subject: Re:MLSNext vs ECNL
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]MLSNext still has the better competition. I feel bad for the ECNL teams cause the they will always be considered 2nd class citizens.[/quote]
Saying that the league has better competition is subjective. MLS NEXT has lots of lopsided scores. For example, Bethesda U15 beat PDA 11-1 and lost to DCU 1-11. Was it a better competition for Bethesda to score 11 goals against PDA and then to allow 11 goals in their game against DCU?
https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/1271/results?group=8343
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score is wrong[/quote]
Which one? PDA or DCU? Both were 11-1. Not competitive at all.
Saying that the league has better competition is subjective. MLS NEXT has lots of lopsided scores. For example, Bethesda U15 beat PDA 11-1 and lost to DCU 1-11. Was it a better competition for Bethesda to score 11 goals against PDA and then to allow 11 goals in their game against DCU?
https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/1271/results?group=8343
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score is wrong[/quote]
Which one? PDA or DCU? Both were 11-1. Not competitive at all.
Anonymous
12/23/2020 13:36
Subject: Re:MLSNext vs ECNL
As much chop and change as we've seen in youth soccer in recent years, I think there is value in being attached to a league/structure/pathway that is stable and provides some certainty about what the future looks like.
I am guessing that it is exhausting for those players and parents who switch clubs every year in search of better teams/coaches.
I am guessing that it is exhausting for those players and parents who switch clubs every year in search of better teams/coaches.
Anonymous
12/23/2020 12:44
Subject: Re:MLSNext vs ECNL
[quote=Anonymous]DC score vs Bethesda was 1-1. they did not post the correct score. [/quote]
Lol thank you
Lol thank you
Anonymous
12/23/2020 12:03
Subject: Re:MLSNext vs ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Achilles, Alexandria, and SYC only field MLSNext teams at U13 and U14. Will those clubs field MLSNext teams in older age groups over time? If not, what are those clubs doing at U15 and above? EDP?
Looking at U13/U14 Mid-Atlantic South, the six MLSNext clubs (Achilles, Alexandria, Baltimore Armour, Bethesda, PA Classics, and SYC) are probably stronger collectively than the six ECNL clubs in Virginia (Arlington, Braddock Road, Loudoun, McLean, Richmond United, and VDA). However, looking at standings and results, Richmond United and VDA may be able to compete against those U13 MLSNext teams. Likewise with Arlington and VDA against those U14 MLSNext teams.
For U15/U16/U17/U19 Mid-Atlantic, MLSNext adds the MLS academies plus clubs like Cedar Stars and PDA. Obviously, with the MLS academy additions, the MLSNext competition is stronger than the ECNL clubs in Virginia, North Carolina, and South Carolina.
I think the big question mark is longevity and stability of the MLSNext league. ECNL has a longer track record and is more established. However, the MLSNext league could be the gold standard if it can last. Said another way - there are questions as to whether or not the MLSNext league will be around in 5 years.
People think this is like selecting a durable good, like an IBM mainframe or a luxury automobile or an enterprise software platform, where longevity, institutional pedigree, blah blah blah matter (we're back to the NOVA propensity for looking at everything like the private school or college admissions process, e.g., see every posting about McLean soccer). Maybe for clubs. But not for kids. They will select based on other factors, and when they have talent, they can switch. The only people who need to worry about leagues are the hangers-on. Talent looks for great coaches and teams, and less-talented folks try to latch on to clubs and leagues because the individual talent of their kids is not enough.
Anonymous
12/23/2020 10:23
Subject: Re:MLSNext vs ECNL
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]MLSNext still has the better competition. I feel bad for the ECNL teams cause the they will always be considered 2nd class citizens.[/quote]
Saying that the league has better competition is subjective. MLS NEXT has lots of lopsided scores. For example, Bethesda U15 beat PDA 11-1 and lost to DCU 1-11. Was it a better competition for Bethesda to score 11 goals against PDA and then to allow 11 goals in their game against DCU?
https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/1271/results?group=8343
[/quote]
score is wrong
Saying that the league has better competition is subjective. MLS NEXT has lots of lopsided scores. For example, Bethesda U15 beat PDA 11-1 and lost to DCU 1-11. Was it a better competition for Bethesda to score 11 goals against PDA and then to allow 11 goals in their game against DCU?
https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/1271/results?group=8343
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score is wrong
Anonymous
12/23/2020 09:27
Subject: Re:MLSNext vs ECNL
DC score vs Bethesda was 1-1. they did not post the correct score.
Anonymous
12/23/2020 09:10
Subject: Re:MLSNext vs ECNL
Achilles, Alexandria, and SYC only field MLSNext teams at U13 and U14. Will those clubs field MLSNext teams in older age groups over time? If not, what are those clubs doing at U15 and above? EDP?
Looking at U13/U14 Mid-Atlantic South, the six MLSNext clubs (Achilles, Alexandria, Baltimore Armour, Bethesda, PA Classics, and SYC) are probably stronger collectively than the six ECNL clubs in Virginia (Arlington, Braddock Road, Loudoun, McLean, Richmond United, and VDA). However, looking at standings and results, Richmond United and VDA may be able to compete against those U13 MLSNext teams. Likewise with Arlington and VDA against those U14 MLSNext teams.
For U15/U16/U17/U19 Mid-Atlantic, MLSNext adds the MLS academies plus clubs like Cedar Stars and PDA. Obviously, with the MLS academy additions, the MLSNext competition is stronger than the ECNL clubs in Virginia, North Carolina, and South Carolina.
I think the big question mark is longevity and stability of the MLSNext league. ECNL has a longer track record and is more established. However, the MLSNext league could be the gold standard if it can last. Said another way - there are questions as to whether or not the MLSNext league will be around in 5 years.
Looking at U13/U14 Mid-Atlantic South, the six MLSNext clubs (Achilles, Alexandria, Baltimore Armour, Bethesda, PA Classics, and SYC) are probably stronger collectively than the six ECNL clubs in Virginia (Arlington, Braddock Road, Loudoun, McLean, Richmond United, and VDA). However, looking at standings and results, Richmond United and VDA may be able to compete against those U13 MLSNext teams. Likewise with Arlington and VDA against those U14 MLSNext teams.
For U15/U16/U17/U19 Mid-Atlantic, MLSNext adds the MLS academies plus clubs like Cedar Stars and PDA. Obviously, with the MLS academy additions, the MLSNext competition is stronger than the ECNL clubs in Virginia, North Carolina, and South Carolina.
I think the big question mark is longevity and stability of the MLSNext league. ECNL has a longer track record and is more established. However, the MLSNext league could be the gold standard if it can last. Said another way - there are questions as to whether or not the MLSNext league will be around in 5 years.
Anonymous
12/22/2020 22:27
Subject: Re:MLSNext vs ECNL
Anonymous wrote:MLSNext still has the better competition. I feel bad for the ECNL teams cause the they will always be considered 2nd class citizens.
Saying that the league has better competition is subjective. MLS NEXT has lots of lopsided scores. For example, Bethesda U15 beat PDA 11-1 and lost to DCU 1-11. Was it a better competition for Bethesda to score 11 goals against PDA and then to allow 11 goals in their game against DCU?
https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/1271/results?group=8343
Anonymous
12/22/2020 18:07
Subject: Re:MLSNext vs ECNL
MLSNext still has the better competition. I feel bad for the ECNL teams cause the they will always be considered 2nd class citizens.
Anonymous
12/20/2020 22:57
Subject: MLSNext vs ECNL
Both leagues will need time to grow.