Anonymous wrote:lol, there aren't any clubs in NoVa which would promote to the A team if they have the choice to add new revenue from outside instead. Youth soccer is about the $$$$ not the kids. Can't single out BRYC on that one.

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Anonymous wrote:I see this as no interest in developing the B team or C team from U9 on up. This strategy is now catching up with them as this particular team is no only under performing in Ecnl. But also being passed up by multiple NCSL teams in the same general area (5-10 mile radius).

I always thought this was universal. The best way to move from a B team to an A team is to switch clubs because you are more likely to get a fresh look at tryouts without any other associated baggage be it the club worrying about having to backfill a lower club roster slot (not as attractive to outside players) or a coach just thinking of a kid as a B player.

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Anonymous wrote:If the goal is to eventually play in the GA or the Ecnl, get your foot in the door and go to Bryc or another ga/ecnl club at the younger age groups

Question on why you think this? Logically this makes sense to me, but based on other threads, it sounds like a major complaint of those programs from parents with kids in younger ages is exactly that they recruit over all the kids in the program and get enamored with new shiny toys. As I said, logically this advice makes sense to me and theoretically those clubs should have more money/more attractive environments to hire better coaches at all ages because of that status, but it just doesn't seem to play out that way. Forgetting about the ridiculous vitriol and club fighting in other threads, there does seem to be a pattern of older kid recruitment and talk of cherry picking better development elsewhere as opposed to "get in early because the club is great at player development and half the ECNL/GA kids tend to come from their own club". Any parents out there that have stayed at a club (BRYC or other) a couple years prior to up to ECNL/GA willing to comment on the makeup of the club in year 1 or 2 of GA/ECNL relative to existing club players?

Anonymous wrote:I see this as no interest in developing the B team or C team from U9 on up. This strategy is now catching up with them as this particular team is no only under performing in Ecnl. But also being passed up by multiple NCSL teams in the same general area (5-10 mile radius).

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Anonymous wrote:If the goal is to eventually play in the GA or the Ecnl, get your foot in the door and go to Bryc or another ga/ecnl club at the younger age groups

Question on why you think this? Logically this makes sense to me, but based on other threads, it sounds like a major complaint of those programs from parents with kids in younger ages is exactly that they recruit over all the kids in the program and get enamored with new shiny toys. As I said, logically this advice makes sense to me and theoretically those clubs should have more money/more attractive environments to hire better coaches at all ages because of that status, but it just doesn't seem to play out that way. Forgetting about the ridiculous vitriol and club fighting in other threads, there does seem to be a pattern of older kid recruitment and talk of cherry picking better development elsewhere as opposed to "get in early because the club is great at player development and half the ECNL/GA kids tend to come from their own club". Any parents out there that have stayed at a club (BRYC or other) a couple years prior to up to ECNL/GA willing to comment on the makeup of the club in year 1 or 2 of GA/ECNL relative to existing club players?

If you look at the make up of the BRYC Boys U14 ECNL team.
approximately

10 players from U10 or younger A team
1 player developed from yheir B team
8 players new to the club at the ECNL of u13 or u14

So the theory of Bryc developing talent is debunked right here. 1 actual player moved up from their B team system to reach ECNL team. 10 were either so much better all the way up from
u9 to U13 (which shows extreme lack of development by the club for the entire player pool)

The 8 new players were developed by other clubs who might not be an ECNL team for them to play on.

I'm not saying BRYC develop kids especially well - but I don't think this is proof of anything. Either the kids developed or they did not. How much better did the kids on the A team get? How much better did the kids on the B team get? It's perfectly possible that all the kids were developed wonderfully but that the ones on the A team simply developed at the same rate as, and therefore remained better than, the kids on the B team.

Let's face it - things like ball skills, coordination, speed, and overall athleticism typicaly don't change all that much as the kids grow. The ones who excel at an early age usually continue to excel. And the ones that are not as talented usually remain that way. Size and strength are more changeable, and hard work certainly makes a difference - but I wouldn't expect coaching to change the pecking order all that much.

Anonymous wrote:I see this as no interest in developing the B team or C team from U9 on up. This strategy is now catching up with them as this particular team is no only under performing in Ecnl. But also being passed up by multiple NCSL teams in the same general area (5-10 mile radius).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the goal is to eventually play in the GA or the Ecnl, get your foot in the door and go to Bryc or another ga/ecnl club at the younger age groups

Question on why you think this? Logically this makes sense to me, but based on other threads, it sounds like a major complaint of those programs from parents with kids in younger ages is exactly that they recruit over all the kids in the program and get enamored with new shiny toys. As I said, logically this advice makes sense to me and theoretically those clubs should have more money/more attractive environments to hire better coaches at all ages because of that status, but it just doesn't seem to play out that way. Forgetting about the ridiculous vitriol and club fighting in other threads, there does seem to be a pattern of older kid recruitment and talk of cherry picking better development elsewhere as opposed to "get in early because the club is great at player development and half the ECNL/GA kids tend to come from their own club". Any parents out there that have stayed at a club (BRYC or other) a couple years prior to up to ECNL/GA willing to comment on the makeup of the club in year 1 or 2 of GA/ECNL relative to existing club players?

If you look at the make up of the BRYC Boys U14 ECNL team.
approximately

10 players from U10 or younger A team
1 player developed from yheir B team
8 players new to the club at the ECNL of u13 or u14

So the theory of Bryc developing talent is debunked right here. 1 actual player moved up from their B team system to reach ECNL team. 10 were either so much better all the way up from
u9 to U13 (which shows extreme lack of development by the club for the entire player pool)

The 8 new players were developed by other clubs who might not be an ECNL team for them to play on.

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Anonymous wrote:If the goal is to eventually play in the GA or the Ecnl, get your foot in the door and go to Bryc or another ga/ecnl club at the younger age groups

Question on why you think this? Logically this makes sense to me, but based on other threads, it sounds like a major complaint of those programs from parents with kids in younger ages is exactly that they recruit over all the kids in the program and get enamored with new shiny toys. As I said, logically this advice makes sense to me and theoretically those clubs should have more money/more attractive environments to hire better coaches at all ages because of that status, but it just doesn't seem to play out that way. Forgetting about the ridiculous vitriol and club fighting in other threads, there does seem to be a pattern of older kid recruitment and talk of cherry picking better development elsewhere as opposed to "get in early because the club is great at player development and half the ECNL/GA kids tend to come from their own club". Any parents out there that have stayed at a club (BRYC or other) a couple years prior to up to ECNL/GA willing to comment on the makeup of the club in year 1 or 2 of GA/ECNL relative to existing club players?

If you look at the make up of the BRYC Boys U14 ECNL team.
approximately

10 players from U10 or younger A team
1 player developed from yheir B team
8 players new to the club at the ECNL of u13 or u14

So the theory of Bryc developing talent is debunked right here. 1 actual player moved up from their B team system to reach ECNL team. 10 were either so much better all the way up from
u9 to U13 (which shows extreme lack of development by the club for the entire player pool)

The 8 new players were developed by other clubs who might not be an ECNL team for them to play on.

Well if BRYC developed all players equally, then this makes sense that the kids who were training and playing with the A team stayed with the A team. For a B kid to make the A team, BRYC would have had to train this kid more/better than than the A team, right? ...unless the B kids trained harder or developed sooner than the A team kids. Can you say that these B team kids trained harder than the A team kids and actually desreved to move up. Just the fact that only one kid moved up doesn't speak against BRYC to me....and I don't like BRYC...FWIW.

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Anonymous wrote:If the goal is to eventually play in the GA or the Ecnl, get your foot in the door and go to Bryc or another ga/ecnl club at the younger age groups

Question on why you think this? Logically this makes sense to me, but based on other threads, it sounds like a major complaint of those programs from parents with kids in younger ages is exactly that they recruit over all the kids in the program and get enamored with new shiny toys. As I said, logically this advice makes sense to me and theoretically those clubs should have more money/more attractive environments to hire better coaches at all ages because of that status, but it just doesn't seem to play out that way. Forgetting about the ridiculous vitriol and club fighting in other threads, there does seem to be a pattern of older kid recruitment and talk of cherry picking better development elsewhere as opposed to "get in early because the club is great at player development and half the ECNL/GA kids tend to come from their own club". Any parents out there that have stayed at a club (BRYC or other) a couple years prior to up to ECNL/GA willing to comment on the makeup of the club in year 1 or 2 of GA/ECNL relative to existing club players?

If you look at the make up of the BRYC Boys U14 ECNL team.
approximately

10 players from U10 or younger A team
1 player developed from yheir B team
8 players new to the club at the ECNL of u13 or u14

So the theory of Bryc developing talent is debunked right here. 1 actual player moved up from their B team system to reach ECNL team. 10 were either so much better all the way up from
u9 to U13 (which shows extreme lack of development by the club for the entire player pool)

The 8 new players were developed by other clubs who might not be an ECNL team for them to play on.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the goal is to eventually play in the GA or the Ecnl, get your foot in the door and go to Bryc or another ga/ecnl club at the younger age groups

Question on why you think this? Logically this makes sense to me, but based on other threads, it sounds like a major complaint of those programs from parents with kids in younger ages is exactly that they recruit over all the kids in the program and get enamored with new shiny toys. As I said, logically this advice makes sense to me and theoretically those clubs should have more money/more attractive environments to hire better coaches at all ages because of that status, but it just doesn't seem to play out that way. Forgetting about the ridiculous vitriol and club fighting in other threads, there does seem to be a pattern of older kid recruitment and talk of cherry picking better development elsewhere as opposed to "get in early because the club is great at player development and half the ECNL/GA kids tend to come from their own club". Any parents out there that have stayed at a club (BRYC or other) a couple years prior to up to ECNL/GA willing to comment on the makeup of the club in year 1 or 2 of GA/ECNL relative to existing club players?

If you look at the make up of the BRYC Boys U14 ECNL team.
approximately

10 players from U10 or younger A team
1 player developed from yheir B team
8 players new to the club at the ECNL of u13 or u14

So the theory of Bryc developing talent is debunked right here. 1 actual player moved up from their B team system to reach ECNL team. 10 were either so much better all the way up from
u9 to U13 (which shows extreme lack of development by the club for the entire player pool)

The 8 new players were developed by other clubs who might not be an ECNL team for them to play on.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the goal is to eventually play in the GA or the Ecnl, get your foot in the door and go to Bryc or another ga/ecnl club at the younger age groups

Question on why you think this? Logically this makes sense to me, but based on other threads, it sounds like a major complaint of those programs from parents with kids in younger ages is exactly that they recruit over all the kids in the program and get enamored with new shiny toys. As I said, logically this advice makes sense to me and theoretically those clubs should have more money/more attractive environments to hire better coaches at all ages because of that status, but it just doesn't seem to play out that way. Forgetting about the ridiculous vitriol and club fighting in other threads, there does seem to be a pattern of older kid recruitment and talk of cherry picking better development elsewhere as opposed to "get in early because the club is great at player development and half the ECNL/GA kids tend to come from their own club". Any parents out there that have stayed at a club (BRYC or other) a couple years prior to up to ECNL/GA willing to comment on the makeup of the club in year 1 or 2 of GA/ECNL relative to existing club players?

If you look at the make up of the BRYC Boys U14 ECNL team.
approximately

10 players from U10 or younger A team
1 player developed from yheir B team
8 players new to the club at the ECNL of u13 or u14

So the theory of Bryc developing talent is debunked right here. 1 actual player moved up from their B team system to reach ECNL team. 10 were either so much better all the way up from
u9 to U13 (which shows extreme lack of development by the club for the entire player pool)

The 8 new players were developed by other clubs who might not be an ECNL team for them to play on.