Anonymous
12/17/2020 19:08
Subject: Re:"Children May Be Driving the Pandemic After All" - der Spiegel (kids "quite efficient at spreading")
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow, I wonder which region decided to keep schools closed and public health restrictions in place. Really hard to tell here.
https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/146/6/e2020027425
What is this supposed to mean? The NE has had many schools open.
The majority, if not all, of Northeast cities shut down their schools for fully virtual learning and kept them closed throughout the fall including New York City, Boston, D.C. Area, Philadelphia, Newark, Baltimore, and others.
We're fortunate to have an educated community and educated workforce that prioritized community health and continue to do so.
Example -
District schools will remain fully virtual at this time
https://www.philasd.org/blog/2020/11/10/district-schools-will-remain-fully-virtual-at-this-time/
DP, and while that may be true for the large cities you mention it’s not of the rest of the Northeast. Rhode Island, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Maine—all the schools are open. NYC has had well-publicized issues, but reopened for elementary students.
As for the “educated community” here who “prioritized community health,” give me a break. Restaurants are full. People are still going to the gym. Moreover, COVID is not the only factor in determining health, and we need to remember that.
NYC and other places have opened/closed multiple times and only have a very limited number of kids going. They aren't all open.
All of the situations are contributing to the spread and people are too selfish to change their behavior so it will continue to spread.
Anonymous
12/17/2020 18:53
Subject: Re:"Children May Be Driving the Pandemic After All" - der Spiegel (kids "quite efficient at spreading")
Does it mean anything to anyone that most of the spikes in South and West before schools opened back up? All of this data follows the community spread on each area.
Anonymous
12/17/2020 06:19
Subject: Re:"Children May Be Driving the Pandemic After All" - der Spiegel (kids "quite efficient at spreading")
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow, I wonder which region decided to keep schools closed and public health restrictions in place. Really hard to tell here.
https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/146/6/e2020027425
What is this supposed to mean? The NE has had many schools open.
The majority, if not all, of Northeast cities shut down their schools for fully virtual learning and kept them closed throughout the fall including New York City, Boston, D.C. Area, Philadelphia, Newark, Baltimore, and others.
We're fortunate to have an educated community and educated workforce that prioritized community health and continue to do so.
Example -
District schools will remain fully virtual at this time
https://www.philasd.org/blog/2020/11/10/district-schools-will-remain-fully-virtual-at-this-time/
DP, and while that may be true for the large cities you mention it’s not of the rest of the Northeast. Rhode Island, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Maine—all the schools are open. NYC has had well-publicized issues, but reopened for elementary students.
As for the “educated community” here who “prioritized community health,” give me a break. Restaurants are full. People are still going to the gym. Moreover, COVID is not the only factor in determining health, and we need to remember that.
Anonymous
12/16/2020 21:30
Subject: Re:"Children May Be Driving the Pandemic After All" - der Spiegel (kids "quite efficient at spreading")
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow, I wonder which region decided to keep schools closed and public health restrictions in place. Really hard to tell here.
https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/146/6/e2020027425
What is this supposed to mean? The NE has had many schools open.
The majority, if not all, of Northeast cities shut down their schools for fully virtual learning and kept them closed throughout the fall including New York City, Boston, D.C. Area, Philadelphia, Newark, Baltimore, and others.
We're fortunate to have an educated community and educated workforce that prioritized community health and continue to do so.
Example -
District schools will remain fully virtual at this time
https://www.philasd.org/blog/2020/11/10/district-schools-will-remain-fully-virtual-at-this-time/
Anonymous
12/16/2020 21:25
Subject: Re:"Children May Be Driving the Pandemic After All" - der Spiegel (kids "quite efficient at spreading")
Anonymous wrote:Wow, I wonder which region decided to keep schools closed and public health restrictions in place. Really hard to tell here.
https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/146/6/e2020027425
What is this supposed to mean? The NE has had many schools open.
Anonymous
12/16/2020 21:24
Subject: Re:"Children May Be Driving the Pandemic After All" - der Spiegel (kids "quite efficient at spreading")
Wow, I wonder which region decided to keep schools closed and public health restrictions in place. Really hard to tell here.
https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/146/6/e2020027425
https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/146/6/e2020027425
Anonymous
12/14/2020 10:51
Subject: Re:"Children May Be Driving the Pandemic After All" - der Spiegel (kids "quite efficient at spreading")
So, follow the immunological information. COVID attaches to ACE-2 .... children, especially ES children have low density ACE-2.
Anonymous
12/14/2020 10:49
Subject: "Children May Be Driving the Pandemic After All" - der Spiegel (kids "quite efficient at spreading")
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So what? The answer isn’t to lock kids up for two years. The answer is to figure out how to reduce the risk of them infecting teachers and each other. There are a ton of possible mitigation measures. None are perfect but layering them helps a lot. The answer is school with mitigation.
This, and also prioritizing schools instead of putting them last, as the DC area has been. The issue isn’t whether kids can transmit COVID, it’s that the costs of keeping them out of school outweigh the costs of their COVID transmission *which can be mitigated*. We KNOW that adults transmit COVID; that hasn’t stopped them from gathering. Children’s education > adult leisure time.
No, large gatherings of all kinds (church, concerts, restaurants, bars, cruises, schools) need to be forgone. There is no moralizing this-the virus does not discriminate.[/quote
Ok. Forgone for how long? Foregoing cruises and concerts causes a lot less harm than foregoing school. Should we forego school until when? No virus? Kids can get vaccinated? Foregoing in person school for two years seems extreme.
Anonymous
12/14/2020 10:43
Subject: "Children May Be Driving the Pandemic After All" - der Spiegel (kids "quite efficient at spreading")
Have weekly or bimonthly tests on the school children then a make a claim. The schools that do that have 99.9% negatives week after week. If anything it’s a staff member that’s positive and gets pulled for 10-14 days. Never a sever case in 6 months if positive- all no symptoms or mild for 2-3 days. No spread found even in pod or cohort. Precautions have worked well.
Anonymous
12/13/2020 15:31
Subject: "Children May Be Driving the Pandemic After All" - der Spiegel (kids "quite efficient at spreading")
Kids are superspreaders of illnesses in schools and daycares. Why wouldn't they spread covid sars2?
I'm not saying I don't want schools to open. I do, and I opted for return to school. But they need to do so with safe guards, which they are trying to put in place, and it's a risk we are taking, not that dissimilar to sendinng them to school when there's a stomach bug or the flu going around. But unlike the flu, schools will be putting more safeguards in place for covid sars2, which I wholeheartedly agree with.
Of course kids can spread it.
I'm not saying I don't want schools to open. I do, and I opted for return to school. But they need to do so with safe guards, which they are trying to put in place, and it's a risk we are taking, not that dissimilar to sendinng them to school when there's a stomach bug or the flu going around. But unlike the flu, schools will be putting more safeguards in place for covid sars2, which I wholeheartedly agree with.
Of course kids can spread it.
Anonymous
12/13/2020 15:13
Subject: Re:"Children May Be Driving the Pandemic After All" - der Spiegel (kids "quite efficient at spreading")
From a brief Google search, it seems that Germany has very lax mask requirements in schools, with masks required in common areas but not in classrooms.
I am not sure whether Wisconsin schools require masks either, for which ages, or under which circumstances. Evaluating spread "in schools" is meaningless without accounting for distancing and masking practices.
I am not sure whether Wisconsin schools require masks either, for which ages, or under which circumstances. Evaluating spread "in schools" is meaningless without accounting for distancing and masking practices.
Anonymous
12/13/2020 14:26
Subject: Re:"Children May Be Driving the Pandemic After All" - der Spiegel (kids "quite efficient at spreading")
All you couch epidemiologists, take a look at the Iceland study.
Anonymous
12/13/2020 11:59
Subject: "Children May Be Driving the Pandemic After All" - der Spiegel (kids "quite efficient at spreading")
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Sigh. Some of us scientists have been telling you this for months. The reason is that children transmit the virus yet are often asymptomatic, and therefore exposures are not caught in time to stop community spread. Schools are accelerators of viral spread. Since children are not at high risk of Covid complications, hospitalizations and deaths caused by school spread occur among the most vulnerable among us in the community, outside of the school.
Except a lot scientists and public health experts haven't been saying that, and still aren't. Young children- particularly those in elementary school and daycare, do not seem to substantial sources of community spread. Older kids may be a different story, but not the <10 crowd.
Oh no! A fact that is true! You can’t post that stuff here!
Anonymous
12/13/2020 11:39
Subject: Re:"Children May Be Driving the Pandemic After All" - der Spiegel (kids "quite efficient at spreading")
Yes. If you view this graph from Wisconsin you will notice how COVID soared once schools opened after Labor Day. This is even with large districts such as Milwaukee and Madison virtual.
https://twitter.com/dhswi/status/1312105146885627905
https://twitter.com/dhswi/status/1312105146885627905
Anonymous
12/12/2020 22:54
Subject: Re:"Children May Be Driving the Pandemic After All" - der Spiegel (kids "quite efficient at spreading")
Take a Valium PP.
Think. For. Yourself.
This requires reading. CDC website and any word health organization tracking Covid deaths.
Please put your gallon of ice cream down and take your diabetes medications.
Think. For. Yourself.
This requires reading. CDC website and any word health organization tracking Covid deaths.
Please put your gallon of ice cream down and take your diabetes medications.