Anonymous
Post 12/11/2020 13:08     Subject: Re:GOP Strongholds in MD

Just like any other state in the whole country.

Maryland is very blue because it is very urban.

Like imagine New York without all of NYC.
New Jersey without I-95/the Turnpike
Illinois without the Chicago metro area.
The West Coast without the cities on the coast.

Red states are not only more rural but often have relatively smaller cities and a more evenly distributed population across rural areas. Even there the cities are blue, but not enough to make up for the expansive rural red population.

Look at Boise, Idaho, Jackson, Wyoming, and Bozeman, Montana. Lots of hipster migrants there turning those areas blue, but surrounded by blood red cowboy country.

Vermont is the one weird example where it’s rural but very left leaning.
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2020 13:07     Subject: GOP Strongholds in MD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It must be tough for all the dems when they cross the Bay Bridge and enter enemy territory on their way to the nice Bay House or Beach enclave.


It must be odd for those who insist upon seeing everything in dichotomies. It must be even odder to hate and/ or fear what you don’t understand.



No kidding. I live in a red part of Maryland. People overall are pretty decent, and we don't sit and talk politics all day, or much at all actually. I don't assume the older white guy who made my sandwich yesterday is a vile racist just because he has a Trump sticker on his pickup truck. I've been going to his shop for a while now, and he's a decent guy in my experience. Same for the parents in my kids' classes. Sure my daughter's friend's father was out on a hunting trip two weeks ago because deer season started, which never happened when we lived in the DC area. Hunting is not my thing, but so what?


However, it is safe to assume that he does not consider the vile racism of others to be a deal-breaker.
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2020 12:09     Subject: GOP Strongholds in MD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It must be tough for all the dems when they cross the Bay Bridge and enter enemy territory on their way to the nice Bay House or Beach enclave.


It must be odd for those who insist upon seeing everything in dichotomies. It must be even odder to hate and/ or fear what you don’t understand.



No kidding. I live in a red part of Maryland. People overall are pretty decent, and we don't sit and talk politics all day, or much at all actually. I don't assume the older white guy who made my sandwich yesterday is a vile racist just because he has a Trump sticker on his pickup truck. I've been going to his shop for a while now, and he's a decent guy in my experience. Same for the parents in my kids' classes. Sure my daughter's friend's father was out on a hunting trip two weeks ago because deer season started, which never happened when we lived in the DC area. Hunting is not my thing, but so what?


I grew up in a place like the red parts of Maryland; my family is people like that. I'm not hating anything I don't understand, but yeah I assume a guy with a Trump sticker on his truck is racist, even if he also seems like a decent guy. My family is full of "decent people" who are actually really racist. I don't cross the Bay Bridge and think I'm in "enemy territory," but I also don't kid myself about how people actually are.


Isn't that the problem? Do you assume people of a certain race are criminals because of how they dress or the music they listen to?

I judge people by their actions.


Having a Trump sticker on your car is an action. It's not like race at all or even like musical or dress preferences. It's a statement of what you believe. You can judge people by their beliefs, that's not "the problem."


Like.. how you dress and the music you listen to. That's signaling beliefs also, isn't it?


Sometimes. Generally speaking aesthetic preferences are just aesthetic preferences. In cases where they clearly signal belief though, I'd be fine with people judging off that. If I decided to walk down the street wearing a shirt that said "Pedophilia is awesome," I'd get judged for that, and it wouldn't be wrong.
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2020 12:06     Subject: GOP Strongholds in MD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It must be tough for all the dems when they cross the Bay Bridge and enter enemy territory on their way to the nice Bay House or Beach enclave.


It must be odd for those who insist upon seeing everything in dichotomies. It must be even odder to hate and/ or fear what you don’t understand.



No kidding. I live in a red part of Maryland. People overall are pretty decent, and we don't sit and talk politics all day, or much at all actually. I don't assume the older white guy who made my sandwich yesterday is a vile racist just because he has a Trump sticker on his pickup truck. I've been going to his shop for a while now, and he's a decent guy in my experience. Same for the parents in my kids' classes. Sure my daughter's friend's father was out on a hunting trip two weeks ago because deer season started, which never happened when we lived in the DC area. Hunting is not my thing, but so what?


I grew up in a place like the red parts of Maryland; my family is people like that. I'm not hating anything I don't understand, but yeah I assume a guy with a Trump sticker on his truck is racist, even if he also seems like a decent guy. My family is full of "decent people" who are actually really racist. I don't cross the Bay Bridge and think I'm in "enemy territory," but I also don't kid myself about how people actually are.


Isn't that the problem? Do you assume people of a certain race are criminals because of how they dress or the music they listen to?

I judge people by their actions.


Having a Trump sticker on your car is an action. It's not like race at all or even like musical or dress preferences. It's a statement of what you believe. You can judge people by their beliefs, that's not "the problem."


Like.. how you dress and the music you listen to. That's signaling beliefs also, isn't it?


True. Wearing a confederate flag or listening to Skrewdriver signals beliefs too.
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2020 11:40     Subject: GOP Strongholds in MD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It must be tough for all the dems when they cross the Bay Bridge and enter enemy territory on their way to the nice Bay House or Beach enclave.


It must be odd for those who insist upon seeing everything in dichotomies. It must be even odder to hate and/ or fear what you don’t understand.



No kidding. I live in a red part of Maryland. People overall are pretty decent, and we don't sit and talk politics all day, or much at all actually. I don't assume the older white guy who made my sandwich yesterday is a vile racist just because he has a Trump sticker on his pickup truck. I've been going to his shop for a while now, and he's a decent guy in my experience. Same for the parents in my kids' classes. Sure my daughter's friend's father was out on a hunting trip two weeks ago because deer season started, which never happened when we lived in the DC area. Hunting is not my thing, but so what?


I grew up in a place like the red parts of Maryland; my family is people like that. I'm not hating anything I don't understand, but yeah I assume a guy with a Trump sticker on his truck is racist, even if he also seems like a decent guy. My family is full of "decent people" who are actually really racist. I don't cross the Bay Bridge and think I'm in "enemy territory," but I also don't kid myself about how people actually are.


Isn't that the problem? Do you assume people of a certain race are criminals because of how they dress or the music they listen to?

I judge people by their actions.


Having a Trump sticker on your car is an action. It's not like race at all or even like musical or dress preferences. It's a statement of what you believe. You can judge people by their beliefs, that's not "the problem."


Like.. how you dress and the music you listen to. That's signaling beliefs also, isn't it?
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2020 11:34     Subject: GOP Strongholds in MD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It must be tough for all the dems when they cross the Bay Bridge and enter enemy territory on their way to the nice Bay House or Beach enclave.


It must be odd for those who insist upon seeing everything in dichotomies. It must be even odder to hate and/ or fear what you don’t understand.



No kidding. I live in a red part of Maryland. People overall are pretty decent, and we don't sit and talk politics all day, or much at all actually. I don't assume the older white guy who made my sandwich yesterday is a vile racist just because he has a Trump sticker on his pickup truck. I've been going to his shop for a while now, and he's a decent guy in my experience. Same for the parents in my kids' classes. Sure my daughter's friend's father was out on a hunting trip two weeks ago because deer season started, which never happened when we lived in the DC area. Hunting is not my thing, but so what?


I grew up in a place like the red parts of Maryland; my family is people like that. I'm not hating anything I don't understand, but yeah I assume a guy with a Trump sticker on his truck is racist, even if he also seems like a decent guy. My family is full of "decent people" who are actually really racist. I don't cross the Bay Bridge and think I'm in "enemy territory," but I also don't kid myself about how people actually are.


Isn't that the problem? Do you assume people of a certain race are criminals because of how they dress or the music they listen to?

I judge people by their actions.


Having a Trump sticker on your car is an action. It's not like race at all or even like musical or dress preferences. It's a statement of what you believe. You can judge people by their beliefs, that's not "the problem."
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2020 11:31     Subject: GOP Strongholds in MD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It must be tough for all the dems when they cross the Bay Bridge and enter enemy territory on their way to the nice Bay House or Beach enclave.


It must be odd for those who insist upon seeing everything in dichotomies. It must be even odder to hate and/ or fear what you don’t understand.



No kidding. I live in a red part of Maryland. People overall are pretty decent, and we don't sit and talk politics all day, or much at all actually. I don't assume the older white guy who made my sandwich yesterday is a vile racist just because he has a Trump sticker on his pickup truck. I've been going to his shop for a while now, and he's a decent guy in my experience. Same for the parents in my kids' classes. Sure my daughter's friend's father was out on a hunting trip two weeks ago because deer season started, which never happened when we lived in the DC area. Hunting is not my thing, but so what?


I grew up in a place like the red parts of Maryland; my family is people like that. I'm not hating anything I don't understand, but yeah I assume a guy with a Trump sticker on his truck is racist, even if he also seems like a decent guy. My family is full of "decent people" who are actually really racist. I don't cross the Bay Bridge and think I'm in "enemy territory," but I also don't kid myself about how people actually are.


Isn't that the problem? Do you assume people of a certain race are criminals because of how they dress or the music they listen to?

I judge people by their actions.
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2020 11:28     Subject: GOP Strongholds in MD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It must be tough for all the dems when they cross the Bay Bridge and enter enemy territory on their way to the nice Bay House or Beach enclave.


It must be odd for those who insist upon seeing everything in dichotomies. It must be even odder to hate and/ or fear what you don’t understand.



No kidding. I live in a red part of Maryland. People overall are pretty decent, and we don't sit and talk politics all day, or much at all actually. I don't assume the older white guy who made my sandwich yesterday is a vile racist just because he has a Trump sticker on his pickup truck. I've been going to his shop for a while now, and he's a decent guy in my experience. Same for the parents in my kids' classes. Sure my daughter's friend's father was out on a hunting trip two weeks ago because deer season started, which never happened when we lived in the DC area. Hunting is not my thing, but so what?


I grew up in a place like the red parts of Maryland; my family is people like that. I'm not hating anything I don't understand, but yeah I assume a guy with a Trump sticker on his truck is racist, even if he also seems like a decent guy. My family is full of "decent people" who are actually really racist. I don't cross the Bay Bridge and think I'm in "enemy territory," but I also don't kid myself about how people actually are.
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2020 11:23     Subject: GOP Strongholds in MD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It must be tough for all the dems when they cross the Bay Bridge and enter enemy territory on their way to the nice Bay House or Beach enclave.


It must be odd for those who insist upon seeing everything in dichotomies. It must be even odder to hate and/ or fear what you don’t understand.



No kidding. I live in a red part of Maryland. People overall are pretty decent, and we don't sit and talk politics all day, or much at all actually. I don't assume the older white guy who made my sandwich yesterday is a vile racist just because he has a Trump sticker on his pickup truck. I've been going to his shop for a while now, and he's a decent guy in my experience. Same for the parents in my kids' classes. Sure my daughter's friend's father was out on a hunting trip two weeks ago because deer season started, which never happened when we lived in the DC area. Hunting is not my thing, but so what?
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2020 11:13     Subject: GOP Strongholds in MD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's face it, without Baltimore County, Southern Moco and PG county, MD is Red. Of course...if's and but's are candy and nuts...but that is the reality. As said earlier, much like the country.

What will be interesting is with technology now having proved to allow people to work from home (ie zoom, teams) and the subsequent migration to the ex-burbs that has begun, how will the map change? If at all?


Let's face it, without THE PLACES WHERE MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN MARYLAND LIVE....


Let's face it, you can't handle the genius of "If we don't count the Democrats, then the state is red."


LOL it is quite literally their argument.

Without MoCo, PG, Baltimore city/county, Anne Arundel, Frederick, the I-95 cooridor......MD would basically have a Republican population the size of Montana. Aside from the Eastern Shore, there's barely anyone in the red districts of MD.
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2020 08:54     Subject: GOP Strongholds in MD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's face it, without Baltimore County, Southern Moco and PG county, MD is Red. Of course...if's and but's are candy and nuts...but that is the reality. As said earlier, much like the country.

What will be interesting is with technology now having proved to allow people to work from home (ie zoom, teams) and the subsequent migration to the ex-burbs that has begun, how will the map change? If at all?


Let's face it, without THE PLACES WHERE MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN MARYLAND LIVE....


Let's face it, you can't handle the genius of "If we don't count the Democrats, then the state is red."
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2020 08:46     Subject: GOP Strongholds in MD

Anonymous wrote:Let's face it, without Baltimore County, Southern Moco and PG county, MD is Red. Of course...if's and but's are candy and nuts...but that is the reality. As said earlier, much like the country.

What will be interesting is with technology now having proved to allow people to work from home (ie zoom, teams) and the subsequent migration to the ex-burbs that has begun, how will the map change? If at all?


Let's face it, without THE PLACES WHERE MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN MARYLAND LIVE....
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2020 07:27     Subject: GOP Strongholds in MD

Terrible maps. Should be scaled to pop size, not geographic.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2020 17:04     Subject: GOP Strongholds in MD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's face it, without Baltimore County, Southern Moco and PG county, MD is Red. Of course...if's and but's are candy and nuts...but that is the reality. As said earlier, much like the country.

What will be interesting is with technology now having proved to allow people to work from home (ie zoom, teams) and the subsequent migration to the ex-burbs that has begun, how will the map change? If at all?


It’s all of MoCo. And PG. And Baltimore, both city and county. And Howard. And Charles. And Anne Arundel. Even FREDERICK County went blue this year.

And without all those people Maryland would have one Congressional district.


Right, but those counties would be offset/balanced out by the red counties. The red counties in MD can't overcome the tidal wave of libs from Baltimore, PG and Moco. That is what tilts it.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2020 17:01     Subject: GOP Strongholds in MD

The Democrats biggest majorities (and places where they gained over 2016) are in high-income suburban counties. That's their base and Maryland has lots of those demos in and around I-95.