Anonymous
12/05/2020 05:40
Subject: If you have a security clearance and international travel
Anonymous wrote:OP, you can google "SEAD 3" to get an idea of how travel approval works for clearance holders. There's no hard and fast go/no go list and it's all agency dependent. He may also be approved for travel but due to the issues with these destinations he may be flagged for closer scrutiny and get sort of soft-blackballed from certain types of work.
I wouldn't touch Mexico City with a 10000000 foot poll because it has a reputation for being a destination people go to when they are spies or want to be spies. There are a bunch of consulates there and if you read about previous spies you'll notice a theme of them going to Mexico City and walking into the Russian embassy. Just, no. Absolutely not.
And Colombia... this will eventually become accepted as a vacation destination but it still has a reputation as a place where people go to spend their $ on hookers and blow. So, no.
Why are you choosing these particular destinations?
Are these vacation spots worth your spouses livelihood?
Anonymous
12/05/2020 02:49
Subject: If you have a security clearance and international travel
OP, you can google "SEAD 3" to get an idea of how travel approval works for clearance holders. There's no hard and fast go/no go list and it's all agency dependent. He may also be approved for travel but due to the issues with these destinations he may be flagged for closer scrutiny and get sort of soft-blackballed from certain types of work.
I wouldn't touch Mexico City with a 10000000 foot poll because it has a reputation for being a destination people go to when they are spies or want to be spies. There are a bunch of consulates there and if you read about previous spies you'll notice a theme of them going to Mexico City and walking into the Russian embassy. Just, no. Absolutely not.
And Colombia... this will eventually become accepted as a vacation destination but it still has a reputation as a place where people go to spend their $ on hookers and blow. So, no.
Why are you choosing these particular destinations?
I wouldn't touch Mexico City with a 10000000 foot poll because it has a reputation for being a destination people go to when they are spies or want to be spies. There are a bunch of consulates there and if you read about previous spies you'll notice a theme of them going to Mexico City and walking into the Russian embassy. Just, no. Absolutely not.
And Colombia... this will eventually become accepted as a vacation destination but it still has a reputation as a place where people go to spend their $ on hookers and blow. So, no.
Why are you choosing these particular destinations?
Anonymous
12/04/2020 11:13
Subject: If you have a security clearance and international travel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone seek a career where you have to get "approval" for travel, for expanding one's horizons, for making a human connection - which is the basis for peace among nations.
Some of us live in the real world.
+1 and I'm an international development peacenik / of John Lennon-esque persuasion... You can only "travel for expanding one's horizons and making human connections" when other people are sacrificing to keep you safe.
Anonymous
12/04/2020 09:30
Subject: If you have a security clearance and international travel
Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone seek a career where you have to get "approval" for travel, for expanding one's horizons, for making a human connection - which is the basis for peace among nations.
Some of us live in the real world.
Anonymous
12/04/2020 09:18
Subject: Re:If you have a security clearance and international travel
One, you're an idiot and a self centered spoiled brat for even travelling during the worst pandemic since the Plague.
Two, your DH is probably correct but it is very dependent on whether he is a contractor or a fed, and then on his clearance level and the agency. SInce we don't know any of that, we can't answer.
Three, you're an idiot and a self centered spoiled brat for even travelling during the worst pandemic since the Plague.
Four, see above.
Two, your DH is probably correct but it is very dependent on whether he is a contractor or a fed, and then on his clearance level and the agency. SInce we don't know any of that, we can't answer.
Three, you're an idiot and a self centered spoiled brat for even travelling during the worst pandemic since the Plague.
Four, see above.
Anonymous
12/04/2020 09:10
Subject: If you have a security clearance and international travel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lots of places are restricted right now for good reason.
I’m sure there are. I really don’t pay attention to what’s restricted, since thoughts of any kind of travel are the least of my priorities. Hopeful for summer 2021.
Its not because of covid.
I realize there's a list that's not related to COVID- Syria, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea....etc. The reasons are obvious. There are also international restrictions related to COVID. I don't pay attention to these since I'm not traveling during a pandemic.
Anonymous
12/03/2020 22:08
Subject: If you have a security clearance and international travel
Anonymous wrote:Depending on where you work, the PPs are correct--your spouse would have to quarantine for 14 days upon return, and that would be charged to his annual leave (not sick or safety) because he defied the request of the employer to not travel. In addition, a supervisor has to approve international travel and if this was my employee and the reason was "vacation" and not "visiting my dying father" I would not approve it.
What are you rambling about? It has nothing to do with COVID.
Anonymous
12/03/2020 22:07
Subject: If you have a security clearance and international travel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lots of places are restricted right now for good reason.
I’m sure there are. I really don’t pay attention to what’s restricted, since thoughts of any kind of travel are the least of my priorities. Hopeful for summer 2021.
Its not because of covid.
Anonymous
12/03/2020 22:05
Subject: If you have a security clearance and international travel
Wow, OP, you have marriage problems, not travel problems. I'm team DH, whether or not it's due to his clearance, concern about COVID, or personal preference. Big decisions (including family vacations) need to have enthusiastic support of both parties. What were you going to do, show him a random Internet thread contradicting his work rules to convince him? Smh...
(I'm not a gov employee, just a regular married person.)
(I'm not a gov employee, just a regular married person.)
Anonymous
12/03/2020 20:08
Subject: If you have a security clearance and international travel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone seek a career where you have to get "approval" for travel, for expanding one's horizons, for making a human connection - which is the basis for peace among nations.
Some people care about serving their country, which most people with security clearances are doing on one level or another. We need people who are willing to be personally inconvenienced sometimes for the greater good of our society.
This. Much better than the alternative!
Anonymous
12/03/2020 20:05
Subject: Re:If you have a security clearance and international travel
We were surprised when DH got disapproved for Mexico travel once. No reason provided. We lost money cancelling his ticket. There are just things you may not know are happening.
Anonymous
12/03/2020 19:27
Subject: Re:If you have a security clearance and international travel
I don't think I'd get approval for those destinations either. Like others have said, it depends on the clearance and agency.
I would trust your husband on this.
And I know you don't care, but I must say that I think it's deplorable to not take the pandemic seriously.
I would trust your husband on this.
And I know you don't care, but I must say that I think it's deplorable to not take the pandemic seriously.
Anonymous
12/02/2020 19:11
Subject: If you have a security clearance and international travel
Depending on where you work, the PPs are correct--your spouse would have to quarantine for 14 days upon return, and that would be charged to his annual leave (not sick or safety) because he defied the request of the employer to not travel. In addition, a supervisor has to approve international travel and if this was my employee and the reason was "vacation" and not "visiting my dying father" I would not approve it.
Anonymous
12/02/2020 16:55
Subject: If you have a security clearance and international travel
Anonymous wrote:Lots of places are restricted right now for good reason.
I’m sure there are. I really don’t pay attention to what’s restricted, since thoughts of any kind of travel are the least of my priorities. Hopeful for summer 2021.
Anonymous
12/02/2020 16:03
Subject: If you have a security clearance and international travel
Lots of places are restricted right now for good reason.