Anonymous
Post 12/03/2020 09:25     Subject: Telework policies going forward
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The wildcard is rents are falling like a brick and landlords are making concessions. Subways, metros, airlines, Amtrak, car rental companies, office complexes, drycleaners, cleaning crew, lunch shops, cafeteria workers are all on verge of bankruptcy is WFH continues all of 2021.

We have to go back even if only every other week to help. My company won’t help too much in Spring 2021 going back but only on A and B team approach. I can only go to office every other week. And on that every other week only required if in person meetings.

It is a small bone to the coffee shop in lobby and cafeteria workers but at least something


Meh, I think the concern about cities falling apart are wildly overblown. Post pandemic, most people will still come in the office, it just might not be as often and will look different. Maybe some people come in 4 days a week instead of 5. Some come in 1,2, or 3 and some less often. There are still going to be corporate dinners in the city, and eventually big meetings and conferences will return to cities. Young people will like moving to cities too for stuff to do.

But otherwise, businesses will adapt. There might be more home delivery of dry cleaning, etc. Food trucks are migrating to the suburbs which has actually been very cool. People are innovative, and will adapt.



100% agree with this poster. During the 2018 housing market crash Wework became a staple for affordable office spaces. Now we are starting to see the upraise of dark kitchens across major cities, as restaurant spaces are no longer finically viable options. As human we adopt with change.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2020 09:15     Subject: Telework policies going forward
Anonymous wrote:The wildcard is rents are falling like a brick and landlords are making concessions. Subways, metros, airlines, Amtrak, car rental companies, office complexes, drycleaners, cleaning crew, lunch shops, cafeteria workers are all on verge of bankruptcy is WFH continues all of 2021.

We have to go back even if only every other week to help. My company won’t help too much in Spring 2021 going back but only on A and B team approach. I can only go to office every other week. And on that every other week only required if in person meetings.

It is a small bone to the coffee shop in lobby and cafeteria workers but at least something


Meh, I think the concern about cities falling apart are wildly overblown. Post pandemic, most people will still come in the office, it just might not be as often and will look different. Maybe some people come in 4 days a week instead of 5. Some come in 1,2, or 3 and some less often. There are still going to be corporate dinners in the city, and eventually big meetings and conferences will return to cities. Young people will like moving to cities too for stuff to do.

But otherwise, businesses will adapt. There might be more home delivery of dry cleaning, etc. Food trucks are migrating to the suburbs which has actually been very cool. People are innovative, and will adapt.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2020 09:13     Subject: Telework policies going forward
Anonymous wrote:Our company owns our building. They just signed a long term lease with the federal gov't so I'm assuming we're not going back.


Maybe. Or maybe they will just rent a cheaper building for fire sale prices in the spring. Arbitrage.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2020 07:32     Subject: Telework policies going forward
Also be careful what you wish for a contractor job with DoD clearance in DC and 15 years experience with a masters and certification was sent to me. Normally that is a $90-$110 per hour job. Client wants $55 an hour. It Hs WFH and paying like you live in a shack in Alabama.

They don’t have to pay the DC and NYC salaries if you don’t have to physically be here?.

How do I know. I was job hunting a few months. I actually took a job in a foreign country where salaries are very high. I am working at home.

When folks realize a working couple will be taking a 50 percent haircut for WFH they will start embracing non remote work.

Anonymous
Post 12/03/2020 07:25     Subject: Telework policies going forward
The wildcard is rents are falling like a brick and landlords are making concessions. Subways, metros, airlines, Amtrak, car rental companies, office complexes, drycleaners, cleaning crew, lunch shops, cafeteria workers are all on verge of bankruptcy is WFH continues all of 2021.

We have to go back even if only every other week to help. My company won’t help too much in Spring 2021 going back but only on A and B team approach. I can only go to office every other week. And on that every other week only required if in person meetings.

It is a small bone to the coffee shop in lobby and cafeteria workers but at least something
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2020 17:10     Subject: Telework policies going forward
Depends. We xant WFH due to nature of our work (DoD contractor). So sucks for us wince we will be competing with companies offering WFH.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2020 16:37     Subject: Telework policies going forward
Anonymous wrote:From what I've been told so far, when the pandemic is over, my federal agency will revert back to pre-pandemic telework policies in accordance with the collective bargaining agreement. That could change, however, with the incoming administration.


what agency
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2020 12:51     Subject: Telework policies going forward
DOS offered telework at one day a pay period, and then moved to one day a week right before this pandemic. DOS initiated some sort of remote work option, but it is sort of a gray area that is in the works. I expect the civil service side of State to have maybe 3 days of week telework when this is all over with. We are more productive than before in many areas.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2020 12:38     Subject: Telework policies going forward
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a leader in talent acquisition, I can tell you that companies who want to revert to little to no telework are going to face a challenge with hiring and retention. Whether the job seeker telework demands sustain or bend will depend on the ratio of employers who continue to offer flexibility vs. those who do not.


This may be true for select industries and/or positions, but the need for talent acquisition only provides short-term leverage for job seekers, as collectively few companies are going to opt for liberal WFH policies. There will be some outliers who do go full WFH, but openings supplied by said companies will have a negligible effect on the overall candidate pool.


All the best companies seem to be fully on board the wfh bandwagon...Google, Microsoft, Facebook, etc...I think the cat is out of the bag on this one.

Our V50 law firm just moved a bunch of associates to permanent wfh (to facilitate moves to lcol areas) and cut their rates which seems like a win-win.



It won’t take long for your V50 to start signaling that full time WFH people in LCOL locations won’t make partner and then it will all start to fall apart. Mark my words.


None of them wanted to make partner from what I can tell. Permanent associate/of counsel positions are becoming a lot more common especially in certain practice areas. Why bill out a trademark associate @ 500/hour in SF if you can move them to St Louis and bill @ 375/hour and their net after tax take home income still increases. There’s been a lot of downward price pressure from clients in the last few years.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2020 10:38     Subject: Telework policies going forward
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a leader in talent acquisition, I can tell you that companies who want to revert to little to no telework are going to face a challenge with hiring and retention. Whether the job seeker telework demands sustain or bend will depend on the ratio of employers who continue to offer flexibility vs. those who do not.


This may be true for select industries and/or positions, but the need for talent acquisition only provides short-term leverage for job seekers, as collectively few companies are going to opt for liberal WFH policies. There will be some outliers who do go full WFH, but openings supplied by said companies will have a negligible effect on the overall candidate pool.


All the best companies seem to be fully on board the wfh bandwagon...Google, Microsoft, Facebook, etc...I think the cat is out of the bag on this one.

Our V50 law firm just moved a bunch of associates to permanent wfh (to facilitate moves to lcol areas) and cut their rates which seems like a win-win.



It won’t take long for your V50 to start signaling that full time WFH people in LCOL locations won’t make partner and then it will all start to fall apart. Mark my words.


Some mixing with people will be critical for people who want the big careers. But five days a week in the office? Nope that's over. I know change is hard but people will adapt.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2020 09:06     Subject: Telework policies going forward
Our company owns our building. They just signed a long term lease with the federal gov't so I'm assuming we're not going back.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2020 09:04     Subject: Telework policies going forward
Another fed. I'm expecting we will go back to the normal policy. Right before COVID, I sought three days a week of telework (permissible under the policy) and was rejected. I will renew my request when we go back and am hopeful my supervisors will reconsider now that they've gained more comfort with telework themselves.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2020 05:48     Subject: Telework policies going forward
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a leader in talent acquisition, I can tell you that companies who want to revert to little to no telework are going to face a challenge with hiring and retention. Whether the job seeker telework demands sustain or bend will depend on the ratio of employers who continue to offer flexibility vs. those who do not.


This may be true for select industries and/or positions, but the need for talent acquisition only provides short-term leverage for job seekers, as collectively few companies are going to opt for liberal WFH policies. There will be some outliers who do go full WFH, but openings supplied by said companies will have a negligible effect on the overall candidate pool.


All the best companies seem to be fully on board the wfh bandwagon...Google, Microsoft, Facebook, etc...I think the cat is out of the bag on this one.

Our V50 law firm just moved a bunch of associates to permanent wfh (to facilitate moves to lcol areas) and cut their rates which seems like a win-win.



It won’t take long for your V50 to start signaling that full time WFH people in LCOL locations won’t make partner and then it will all start to fall apart. Mark my words.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2020 05:22     Subject: Telework policies going forward
Full time telework permanently.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2020 04:26     Subject: Telework policies going forward
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a leader in talent acquisition, I can tell you that companies who want to revert to little to no telework are going to face a challenge with hiring and retention. Whether the job seeker telework demands sustain or bend will depend on the ratio of employers who continue to offer flexibility vs. those who do not.


This may be true for select industries and/or positions, but the need for talent acquisition only provides short-term leverage for job seekers, as collectively few companies are going to opt for liberal WFH policies. There will be some outliers who do go full WFH, but openings supplied by said companies will have a negligible effect on the overall candidate pool.


All the best companies seem to be fully on board the wfh bandwagon...Google, Microsoft, Facebook, etc...I think the cat is out of the bag on this one.

Our V50 law firm just moved a bunch of associates to permanent wfh (to facilitate moves to lcol areas) and cut their rates which seems like a win-win.