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Anonymous wrote:Most people do get long term immunity from COVID. Reinfection is rare, and it's not clear if these are true reinfections or that the virus was hiding in the body and then flared up again.

Wrong. I got COVID. Now I am negative on the antibody test 5 months later. My friend got it twice. So, no. We are not even getting short term immunity from COVID. And the disease is not that old that we can say that there is long term immunity.

See? This is what I’m talking about.

How is a vaccine going to work then? It makes no sense.

Here is an article that explains why immunity from a vaccine is longer lasting than getting the infection.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/why-a-vaccine-can-provide-better-immunity-than-an-actual-infection-145476

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Anonymous wrote:The reinfection rates are very low, so are the people whom the vaccine won’t work on. Nothing is perfect in medicine

That’s not what I keep reading here. People keep posting that you can re-infected almost immediately, and that it gets worse each time.

So who’s lying here? All of them? Or you?

This is very frustrating.

No one is "lying." Our experience with this disease is not even a year long. The medical / scientific community is learning about it every day--literally. And STUDIES (which are the only way to find definitive answers) take time and money.

So, there are reports of people SEEMING to get reinfected (I have read there are approximately 25 KNOWN cases, which is not the real number just what has been documented). No one knows why this happened to them and not others, how many other people it has happened to. And we don't know how long natural immunity lasts. THAT is what scientific knowledge looks like while it is being accumulated/built. The results can conflict. They can reverse over time. The more pieces of the puzzle that all into place, the clearer the picture becomes.

People are working hard to figure this out. Be mature and realistic...and grateful.

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Anonymous wrote:It will be like the flu shot where it will protect some from some strains and that's it.

Wrong. There is only one strain. There is a complete lack of scientific understanding on this board (and the American public in general).

It honestly makes me want to cry. But it explains so much. So much.

Anonymous wrote:It will be like the flu shot where it will protect some from some strains and that's it.

Wrong. There is only one strain. There is a complete lack of scientific understanding on this board (and the American public in general).

We might take it annually.

Both vaccines are different, one attacks the protein (I have no idea what that means) and might cause a higher level of immune response.

Anonymous wrote:1. Reinfection is rare. Antibodies will decrease over time, but people develop B and T cells that then work against a reintroduction of the virus.

2. Vaccines often cause a more robust immune response than if you had been infected.

There is a lot of misinformation in this thread and in others.

This, and the other pp who wrote that herd immunity does require a vaccine, are the two posts to take away from this thread.

1. Reinfection is rare. Antibodies will decrease over time, but people develop B and T cells that then work against a reintroduction of the virus.

2. Vaccines often cause a more robust immune response than if you had been infected.

There is a lot of misinformation in this thread and in others.

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Anonymous wrote:Most people do get long term immunity from COVID. Reinfection is rare, and it's not clear if these are true reinfections or that the virus was hiding in the body and then flared up again.

Wrong. I got COVID. Now I am negative on the antibody test 5 months later. My friend got it twice. So, no. We are not even getting short term immunity from COVID. And the disease is not that old that we can say that there is long term immunity.

There is so much misinformation. Top immunologists will tell you that just b/c the detectable antibody level is zero, doesn't mean you don't have T cell memory immunity. Detectable antibody levels are a bit of a red herring.

Anonymous wrote:The reinfection rates are very low, so are the people whom the vaccine won’t work on. Nothing is perfect in medicine

+1 Reinfection is extremely rare and pretty much anomalous. But this isn't publicized, probably b/c people who think they may have had it will throw caution to the wind and the overall public health outcomes will be worse.

Trials are showing a larger antibody response from the vaccine vs the illness. That’s how.

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Anonymous wrote:Most people do get long term immunity from COVID. Reinfection is rare, and it's not clear if these are true reinfections or that the virus was hiding in the body and then flared up again.

Wrong. I got COVID. Now I am negative on the antibody test 5 months later. My friend got it twice. So, no. We are not even getting short term immunity from COVID. And the disease is not that old that we can say that there is long term immunity.

See? This is what I’m talking about.

How is a vaccine going to work then? It makes no sense.

Why don’t you do some research.

Because I’m not a researcher. I’m a decorator.

This lazy cop out crap is why we ended up with an orange reality tv star President.

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Anonymous wrote:Most people do get long term immunity from COVID. Reinfection is rare, and it's not clear if these are true reinfections or that the virus was hiding in the body and then flared up again.

Wrong. I got COVID. Now I am negative on the antibody test 5 months later. My friend got it twice. So, no. We are not even getting short term immunity from COVID. And the disease is not that old that we can say that there is long term immunity.

See? This is what I’m talking about.

How is a vaccine going to work then? It makes no sense.

Because the people who are making the vaccines are scientists with all the info, not some DCUM know it all who read one cnn article.

Anonymous wrote:The premise of this question can be answered with two words: the flu. Different strains come around every year, our immunity wanes to strains we have already been exposed to, so we get the flu shot every year. We will have to do the same with this vaccine with the hope of taking covid-19 out of circulation.

This is not accurate. So far, SARS-cov-2 does not appear to mutate as fast as the flu. Also, unlike with the flu, the immunogenic part of the vaccine isnbased on a part of the virus that is likely to change a great deal with seasonal-type mutations.

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Anonymous wrote:Most people do get long term immunity from COVID. Reinfection is rare, and it's not clear if these are true reinfections or that the virus was hiding in the body and then flared up again.

Wrong. I got COVID. Now I am negative on the antibody test 5 months later. My friend got it twice. So, no. We are not even getting short term immunity from COVID. And the disease is not that old that we can say that there is long term immunity.

See? This is what I’m talking about.

How is a vaccine going to work then? It makes no sense.

Why don’t you do some research.

Because I’m not a researcher. I’m a decorator.

Cakes or interiors?

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Anonymous wrote:Most people do get long term immunity from COVID. Reinfection is rare, and it's not clear if these are true reinfections or that the virus was hiding in the body and then flared up again.

Wrong. I got COVID. Now I am negative on the antibody test 5 months later. My friend got it twice. So, no. We are not even getting short term immunity from COVID. And the disease is not that old that we can say that there is long term immunity.

See? This is what I’m talking about.

How is a vaccine going to work then? It makes no sense.

Why don’t you do some research.

Because I’m not a researcher. I’m a decorator.

So decorators can’t research??!! Surely you can google “covid immunity” and scan the results for legitimate sources and read those sources. I did that and got an interesting NYT article, which I can’t post for some reason....

NP

I'm not sure this thread was posted in good faith to get an answer to a question, so doing the obvious things to answer a question are not going to happen.

You could be right. Ever since vaccine results were released, there's been a campaign on these boards to scare people away from getting vaccinated.

Ah yes. Conspiracy theories...