Anonymous
Post 11/21/2020 09:17     Subject: I will never be able to afford a house in Arlington

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have lived in Arlington for 15 years, mostly as a renter. I bought a condo a couple of years ago because that’s what I can afford and I wanted to stay in Arlington for the commute and because my kids are in school here. I’m in my mid 40s. I’m a single mom. Income of $170k. Even if I sell this condo in a few years and break even or make a small profit and am able to roll that money into a down payment on a larger home, I will never be able to afford the monthly payment on a larger home because my income isn’t going up. I’m maxed out as a GS15. So my choices are live in a condo forever, change jobs, or move further out, right? There is no property ladder for me.

It's Arlington. Nothing to write home about.


This x1000.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2020 09:16     Subject: I will never be able to afford a house in Arlington

And I'll never be able to afford a house west of the park. So? Life goes on.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2020 09:12     Subject: I will never be able to afford a house in Arlington

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is not computing. How much equity do you have in your condo? My stats are identical to yours -- single parent, maxed out GS-15, and I own a townhouse which is bigger than my condo was and I have my own outdoor space. How much can you pull together for a downpayment? Also, you will stop paying the condo fee so you roll that into your mortgage amount.

You are right, you won't get a SFH in most parts of Arlington, but you can certainly get more space and stay in the area.


Maybe OP pays spousal support? Or has large debt?


Then OP should show us the stats before saying a move up is not possible
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2020 08:42     Subject: I will never be able to afford a house in Arlington

Anonymous wrote:This is not computing. How much equity do you have in your condo? My stats are identical to yours -- single parent, maxed out GS-15, and I own a townhouse which is bigger than my condo was and I have my own outdoor space. How much can you pull together for a downpayment? Also, you will stop paying the condo fee so you roll that into your mortgage amount.

You are right, you won't get a SFH in most parts of Arlington, but you can certainly get more space and stay in the area.


Maybe OP pays spousal support? Or has large debt?
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2020 08:42     Subject: I will never be able to afford a house in Arlington

Anonymous wrote:I have lived in Arlington for 15 years, mostly as a renter. I bought a condo a couple of years ago because that’s what I can afford and I wanted to stay in Arlington for the commute and because my kids are in school here. I’m in my mid 40s. I’m a single mom. Income of $170k. Even if I sell this condo in a few years and break even or make a small profit and am able to roll that money into a down payment on a larger home, I will never be able to afford the monthly payment on a larger home because my income isn’t going up. I’m maxed out as a GS15. So my choices are live in a condo forever, change jobs, or move further out, right? There is no property ladder for me.


Do you want a SFH or do you want a SFH in Arlington? Not everybody can afford a house in Arlington which is why there are other places to live. Find one you can afford and buy there.
We can't always have exactly what we want when and how we want it.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2020 08:41     Subject: I will never be able to afford a house in Arlington

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have lived in Arlington for 15 years, mostly as a renter. I bought a condo a couple of years ago because that’s what I can afford and I wanted to stay in Arlington for the commute and because my kids are in school here. I’m in my mid 40s. I’m a single mom. Income of $170k. Even if I sell this condo in a few years and break even or make a small profit and am able to roll that money into a down payment on a larger home, I will never be able to afford the monthly payment on a larger home because my income isn’t going up. I’m maxed out as a GS15. So my choices are live in a condo forever, change jobs, or move further out, right? There is no property ladder for me.


Not when you buy in an already appreciated area. If you had bought in an area that had a lot of potential for growth, yes, you would have had more of an opportunity for appreciation. But you wanted to live in Arlington.


She's mid-40s, she probably bought for good schools and good commute 10 years ago, when her kids were young. She might have even bought 15 years ago when everyone said condos were a great investment, not everyone was part of the Big Short and knew it was a bubble. Her problem is that SFH and condo appreciation have diverged since 2008. Condos don't appreciate anymore, and COVID probably was even worse.

She could have bought in Petworth or H street and seen mad appreciation, but then she would have been gambling on good charter school lotteries versus home appreciation, and could still be in a bind by moving before her home appreciated because schools don't work out.

You are building equity in your condo, regardless, and as long as you are paying less in PITI and condo fees than you would in rent, you are coming out ahead (though do the math, the place we were renting had such high fees that the INTEREST payment along + HOA fee was higher than our rent -- it only made sense for our landlord since they had bought it in the 80s). The PP suggesting you rent a home is not a bad one; maybe just rent a house for the summer when kids are home more and being outside is nicer? I can see not wanting to move your kids or increase your commute; we both work downtown and have Fed jobs so while have more money not Arlington money, so we lived in a rental until our 40s with 2 kids and only just bought our first home in Arlington, and its some crummy tear down but works for us.


Nobody (who wasn’t try to sell a condo) has ever said condos were a good investment.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2020 08:38     Subject: I will never be able to afford a house in Arlington

OP is feeling sorry for herself. It is hard not to want more in this area. OP, it sounds like you are doing great. Keep focusing on longterm financial goals rather than worrying about what others think of your home.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2020 08:33     Subject: I will never be able to afford a house in Arlington

This is not computing. How much equity do you have in your condo? My stats are identical to yours -- single parent, maxed out GS-15, and I own a townhouse which is bigger than my condo was and I have my own outdoor space. How much can you pull together for a downpayment? Also, you will stop paying the condo fee so you roll that into your mortgage amount.

You are right, you won't get a SFH in most parts of Arlington, but you can certainly get more space and stay in the area.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2020 08:29     Subject: I will never be able to afford a house in Arlington

I sold my condo in Arlington (which appreciate quite a bit, btw, maybe because it was in South Arlington) and now have a lovely house in Fairfax. Would I have loved to stay in Arlington, sure, but one look at the SFH market and it was an impossible proposition. You just do what you can afford.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2020 08:27     Subject: I will never be able to afford a house in Arlington

Anonymous wrote:Focus on getting a man while you still can.


40s with kids and an entitlement complex on the market!
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2020 08:26     Subject: I will never be able to afford a house in Arlington

Sweetheart, most people make the same choice-less commute and Arlington schools and smaller place or more commute and bigger place. Why are you so different?
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2020 08:26     Subject: I will never be able to afford a house in Arlington

Focus on getting a man while you still can.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2020 08:25     Subject: I will never be able to afford a house in Arlington

Anonymous wrote:You make 170k a year. You are literally rich and you’re crying poor. Go away.


But wah bitter single mom wants a property ladder to a Lyon Village SFH like all the dual GS-15 couples she knows.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2020 08:23     Subject: I will never be able to afford a house in Arlington

Anonymous wrote:Why do condos depreciate so much in DC area? Is it a regional thing, is it a quest for new build condos, is it overbuilding?

My old state they hold up in value really well. I think it is NIMBY so very very hard to build so new construction is rare. Also they tax new construction heavy. So older ones much more in demand. My old town has not build a condo complex since 2003. None are in works. So old condos are not competing new ones and less supply

It seems to screw new condo buyers here



I think part of the issue here is they’re building all these new mixed use condo/retail areas...then they can’t find good retail tenants and the condo price is tied to the retail price.
Anonymous
Post 11/21/2020 08:20     Subject: I will never be able to afford a house in Arlington

You make 170k a year. You are literally rich and you’re crying poor. Go away.