Anonymous wrote:Canadian peeps, I recommend getting the paperwork in order for your kids. It takes time - it probably took us about 6 months total, which included me failing to fill out a few fields (so they had to send it back, etc). I wouldn’t delay, esp for juniors.

With Covid, it will take a lot longer.

The point about needing to be self-directed is huge. I went to a university in Canada that had over 40,000 students. Yes, tuition was cheap compared to here, but there were very basic support systems in place. I can’t even remember there being RAs in the massive dorms. There were desk workers checking IDs in the lobby, but that was it. When you needed something, you went to an office that looked like a DMV to speak to someone.

You could see this as good in that it forces people to take care of their own business and not having all the extras keeps costs down, but if your kid wants the college experience that is the norm in the US, you won’t get it at the big Canadian uni’s.

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Anonymous wrote:How are the outcomes for someone attending canadian universities? Do they get jobs easily in the US at the same level of pay as top US schools?

I think you have to factor in the concept that a lot of people who go to university in Canada from other countries (including the US) will choose to stay there. For many, the idea of returning to the US for work, isn't as attractive as living in Canada.

Yes I think you have to assume they will likely end up there...same as if they choose a US school in a different area.

I see no downside with that. If my kid ended up in a country that seems to be doing well, with reasonable politicians and health insurance, I’m good.

$2500 is just tuition vs in state UMD $8,824
The additional travel cost will eat up the $6000 Saving fast
Also as PP stated, they are likely to stay in Canada after graduation Which could be a big concern for some

Anonymous wrote:York Univ is only 39 minutes (30 miles) drive from downtown Toronto. It's far from isolated.

That's a miserable slog, in my Annex-dwelling experience.

OP, I went to McGill eons ago, but I still visit Montreal. I LOVED it! The city is fun. Safe too. Even in the winter cold, there is warmth...and romance.
Agree with pp, the academics are tough. It is so easy to flunk out. An engineering major is happy with a C average.
Also agree that they will not hold your hand. Most Canadians enter a year later than Americans. They expect maturity.
Next issue, the other schools:
Toronto, more impersonal, but also rigorous.
Queens, snobby. The kids of the blonde Scottish set.
British Columbia, more like a top California school.
All of these schools are in safe cities.

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Anonymous wrote:How are the outcomes for someone attending canadian universities? Do they get jobs easily in the US at the same level of pay as top US schools?

I think you have to factor in the concept that a lot of people who go to university in Canada from other countries (including the US) will choose to stay there. For many, the idea of returning to the US for work, isn't as attractive as living in Canada.

Yes I think you have to assume they will likely end up there...same as if they choose a US school in a different area.

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Anonymous wrote:What are your thoughts on York? I know Osgood Hall has a good rep for Law, but otherwise?

I might consider York if there were a particular program in which they were very strong and in which I was very interested, but I'd be concerned a) that it is a long schlep from central Toronto, very, very suburban and isolated, and it would be frustrating to move to one of the most awesome cities in N. America and be stuck out there, and b) lack of name recognition in the US if the student wanted to come back here for jobs or grad school.

York Univ is only 39 minutes (30 miles) drive from downtown Toronto. It's far from isolated.

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Anonymous wrote:What are your thoughts on York? I know Osgood Hall has a good rep for Law, but otherwise?

I might consider York if there were a particular program in which they were very strong and in which I was very interested, but I'd be concerned a) that it is a long schlep from central Toronto, very, very suburban and isolated, and it would be frustrating to move to one of the most awesome cities in N. America and be stuck out there, and b) lack of name recognition in the US if the student wanted to come back here for jobs or grad school.

Moot for us. My kid is interested in being anywhere BUT a large city and is interested potentially in studying Law in Canada with a view staying there. So York would for him, be ideal.

Anonymous wrote:What are your thoughts on York? I know Osgood Hall has a good rep for Law, but otherwise?

I might consider York if there were a particular program in which they were very strong and in which I was very interested, but I'd be concerned a) that it is a long schlep from central Toronto, very, very suburban and isolated, and it would be frustrating to move to one of the most awesome cities in N. America and be stuck out there, and b) lack of name recognition in the US if the student wanted to come back here for jobs or grad school.

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Anonymous wrote:Also have to add as a Canadian, there is a distiction between college and university. In general, universities are where you get a degree, college is more like trade school or community college (although some colleges have started to four year degrees as well).

All of the good schools in Canada are publicly funded. There are a few religious private universities, and private career colleges, but all of the schools being discussed here are public universities.

What are your thoughts on York? I know Osgood Hall has a good rep for Law, but otherwise?

York Univ. is a good school, the business school is very strong.

Thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:How are the outcomes for someone attending canadian universities? Do they get jobs easily in the US at the same level of pay as top US schools?

Many US companies recruited in U of Toronto, including Goldman Sachs. For non-US citizen recruits, they sometimes gave low-ball offers, not sure about the US citizen recruits.

This is what I'd worry about.. Would appreciate feedback from folks that have been through this..

Anonymous wrote:How are the outcomes for someone attending canadian universities? Do they get jobs easily in the US at the same level of pay as top US schools?

Many US companies recruited in U of Toronto, including Goldman Sachs. For non-US citizen recruits, they sometimes gave low-ball offers, not sure about the US citizen recruits.

Anonymous wrote:How are the outcomes for someone attending canadian universities? Do they get jobs easily in the US at the same level of pay as top US schools?

I think you have to factor in the concept that a lot of people who go to university in Canada from other countries (including the US) will choose to stay there. For many, the idea of returning to the US for work, isn't as attractive as living in Canada.

How are the outcomes for someone attending canadian universities? Do they get jobs easily in the US at the same level of pay as top US schools?