Anonymous
Post 11/20/2020 16:37     Subject: Re:occasional glass of wine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would love to see a venn diagram of the "have some wine, they do it in Europe, chill out" crowd and the "stay locked down until all have a covid vaccine, nothing is 100% effective so that's the only solution" crowd. I bet there's quite a bit of overlap, which appears confounding but isn't when one scratches the surface.


What's confounding about someone choosing to follow the science in both scenarios?


The thing that is confounding is the acceptance of some risk in the first scenario and the sheer hysteria in the second.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2020 16:27     Subject: Re:occasional glass of wine
Anonymous wrote:I would love to see a venn diagram of the "have some wine, they do it in Europe, chill out" crowd and the "stay locked down until all have a covid vaccine, nothing is 100% effective so that's the only solution" crowd. I bet there's quite a bit of overlap, which appears confounding but isn't when one scratches the surface.


What's confounding about someone choosing to follow the science in both scenarios?
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2020 16:08     Subject: Re:occasional glass of wine
I would love to see a venn diagram of the "have some wine, they do it in Europe, chill out" crowd and the "stay locked down until all have a covid vaccine, nothing is 100% effective so that's the only solution" crowd. I bet there's quite a bit of overlap, which appears confounding but isn't when one scratches the surface.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2020 15:38     Subject: Re:occasional glass of wine
OP here-

typical DCUM for it to go off the rails/everyone shaming one another.

I'm not "thinking about wine so much/have a problem." I'm actually still puking all the time and have no interest of sipping any wine.

I'm hoping that I feel better by Christmas and was thinking of having a small glass of red wine but would not be in the third trimester yet and did not remember if that was ok or not. I'm going to dig out my copy of Expecting Better.

Like I previously said- two healthy children, and maybe 2 glasses per pregnancy. This is very different from people who did not stop drinking at all etc.

Wishing everyone safe and healthy holiday season.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2020 07:20     Subject: Re:occasional glass of wine
I don’t oppose it and I had a glass of champagne at a wedding, but honestly if you’re thinking about it this much, alcohol might be too important to you.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2020 05:53     Subject: Re:occasional glass of wine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Drank up to 2 servings per 1 hr period. Pretty often. I was going through a bad time. I feel terrible but- My child does not have fas or other difficulties. My first I drank less often- 1 to 2 times a week max and 1 serving at a time. Shes good.

Both children I took dabs or other forms of thc daily.

Both are super smart and beautiful.

Heavy drinkers have a 3% chance that their baby will have FAS.
Your ocassional drink is alright.



This is so ridiculous. OP asked when people have a small glass of wine, which many pregnant women do. I had probably 2 -4 glasses total towards the end of my pregnancy,op. Go ahead and have a small glass at Christmas. She wasn’t talking about binge drinking. Get over yourself troll!!



This is my truth sadly. Not a troll. I said what I said because it can help other women who feel guilty over 1 glass like we have seen in this thread.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2020 22:57     Subject: occasional glass of wine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All the moms in my peer group here (highly educated, babies in our thirties, etc) had a half glass when out to dinner or sipped out of our husbands' drinks on occasion after about the midway point. Not nightly and not more than one drink, but not abstention either. My sister didn't know she was pregnant until 10 weeks or so and went on a college spring break trip during that time - no abstention. That kid is in gifted and talented classes now and has great comedic timing.

OTOH, I completely abstained in the weeks leading up to TTC and for the first tri. And though I am an occasional pot smoker, that's out the window for 3 months before TTC and until I'm done breastfeeding. You've got to figure out where your own tolerance is.



Genuinely hilarious how this poster, and oddly, many others, have come to understand light drinking while pregnant as way of signaling that they are indeed highly educated (because they can easily wade through and analyze the research that the rest of us are simply too dumb to handle). Love that you threw in your age, too! Lmao. I had my first at 29 (currently pregnant again and hoping you’ll like me more now that I’m also old like you!) and abstained entirely, but clearly that’s because I was an immature dumbass who lacked the sophistication of these wise, worldly women. What a sheep I was!



Sorry if you felt judged. I mentioned my age to contrast with the anecdote of my sister who got pregnant in college - different edges of a spectrum and different "consumed alcohol during this trimester" stories, but both healthy kids. There's nothing wrong with abstaining completely if that's what works for you, but it's also explicitly not what OP was asking about.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2020 22:26     Subject: occasional glass of wine
Anonymous wrote:All the moms in my peer group here (highly educated, babies in our thirties, etc) had a half glass when out to dinner or sipped out of our husbands' drinks on occasion after about the midway point. Not nightly and not more than one drink, but not abstention either. My sister didn't know she was pregnant until 10 weeks or so and went on a college spring break trip during that time - no abstention. That kid is in gifted and talented classes now and has great comedic timing.

OTOH, I completely abstained in the weeks leading up to TTC and for the first tri. And though I am an occasional pot smoker, that's out the window for 3 months before TTC and until I'm done breastfeeding. You've got to figure out where your own tolerance is.



Genuinely hilarious how this poster, and oddly, many others, have come to understand light drinking while pregnant as way of signaling that they are indeed highly educated (because they can easily wade through and analyze the research that the rest of us are simply too dumb to handle). Love that you threw in your age, too! Lmao. I had my first at 29 (currently pregnant again and hoping you’ll like me more now that I’m also old like you!) and abstained entirely, but clearly that’s because I was an immature dumbass who lacked the sophistication of these wise, worldly women. What a sheep I was!

Anonymous
Post 11/19/2020 18:20     Subject: occasional glass of wine
No
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2020 17:26     Subject: Re:occasional glass of wine
I didn't know I was pregnant with my first until 10 weeks and probably had a glass daily on average. I felt so awful after I found out I didn't have one more sip the entire pregnancy. Zero issues.

Baby 2 I had a glass of wine on occassion...maybe one small glass a week after the first trimester, maybe a bit less. zero issues.

Baby 3 I felt so sick and tired I didn't have anything except maybe a few sips the entire pregnancy. zero issues.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2020 17:21     Subject: occasional glass of wine
All the moms in my peer group here (highly educated, babies in our thirties, etc) had a half glass when out to dinner or sipped out of our husbands' drinks on occasion after about the midway point. Not nightly and not more than one drink, but not abstention either. My sister didn't know she was pregnant until 10 weeks or so and went on a college spring break trip during that time - no abstention. That kid is in gifted and talented classes now and has great comedic timing.

OTOH, I completely abstained in the weeks leading up to TTC and for the first tri. And though I am an occasional pot smoker, that's out the window for 3 months before TTC and until I'm done breastfeeding. You've got to figure out where your own tolerance is.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2020 17:01     Subject: occasional glass of wine
All the moms I personally know drank occasionally throughout pregnancy. Many drank when not even knowing. None of these women lost their pregnancies. So there. Scientific evidence.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2020 12:07     Subject: occasional glass of wine
BIL's wife kept drinking in first and second trimesters and lost every baby.

The time she waited until the third trimester her baby ended up surviving but had developed a tumor.

So...never, personally. Between Seedlips and Tost and all of the other options to add flavor, do you really need alcohol?
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2020 11:54     Subject: occasional glass of wine
Anonymous wrote:I’ll have to say it ...never.


I know an adult who suffers from Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and, for me, it was a no brainier:. No alcohol at all.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2020 07:25     Subject: Re:occasional glass of wine
Anonymous wrote:Drank up to 2 servings per 1 hr period. Pretty often. I was going through a bad time. I feel terrible but- My child does not have fas or other difficulties. My first I drank less often- 1 to 2 times a week max and 1 serving at a time. Shes good.

Both children I took dabs or other forms of thc daily.

Both are super smart and beautiful.

Heavy drinkers have a 3% chance that their baby will have FAS.
Your ocassional drink is alright.



This is so ridiculous. OP asked when people have a small glass of wine, which many pregnant women do. I had probably 2 -4 glasses total towards the end of my pregnancy,op. Go ahead and have a small glass at Christmas. She wasn’t talking about binge drinking. Get over yourself troll!!