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Anonymous wrote:Nearly all of my students in an all lower income school have a parent or relative at home with them. A few of them who don’t go to neighbors.

I teach low income ESOL kids. Their families take Covid VERY seriously. They’ve all known families with it and families who have had very bad cases and outcomes. The kids are being kept at home with some family member.

Same here. We surveyed all of my ESOL families and only one out of appr. 35 wants their kid to go back to school. The virus has gone through their neighborhood and where the school is located has one of the highest number of cases in the district. One of my students last spring had a grandmother die of it. The entire family had it. Mom says she must have gotten it at work and it killed her mother. Can you imagine that guilt?

I think that POC who live in multigenerational households are keeping their kids at home. They have older or other family members living there, so where is someone to care for younger children. The childcare dilemma is hardest on college educated single parents and/or household with lower paying jobs like teachers, police officers, administrative workers, government employees, etc. who rely on two incomes and cannot afford extra childcare expense. It is a real problem, as evidenced by the fact that one reason teachers don't want to go back into classrooms is concern about having childcare for their own children. Schools are childcare unless teachers need it.

How did they afford it when the kids were 0-5 and summers?

Many of them stayed home.

Many of them have mothers who stayed home and re-entered the work force earning less than they would have had they stayed in. They don't want to leave again and don't have a cushion to pay much extra for child care.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the thing. I don’t think *your* need for childcare outweighs *my* health and safety. Especially because I virtually guarantee I make less money than you and also have children of my own.

You cannot guarantee this. The average teacher in my school district outearns me, and my husband also works for local government and makes about what a teacher with his same level of education and expertise would make. It is very likely that many teachers have a higher HHI than my family does.

Also, no one is saying they need childcare at the expense of someone's safety. They are saying "let's take all reasonable measures to mitigate risk in schools, as we have in most other workplaces including doctor's offices, grocery stores, etc." Why would I want to send my child to an unsafe school environment where they might bring Covid home to our family? Of course I don't want that. But that doesn't mean I think we should keep schools closed indefinitely, especially when so many other schools have opened without incident. There is obviously a reasonably safe way to do it.

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Anonymous wrote:Its interesting OP, people like you ranting when you can clearly afford child care and are the issue.

We are at a low income school. Families have figured it out. Low income either get a child care voucher, family/friends or they use the equity hub which is for low income families who pay $50 a month or free if they cannot afford that.

I think its interesting how little people know about the resources out there and instead scapegoat the low income and special needs families as the reason to go back.

Resources are only for people that qualify for them. The child care centers around me that offer options for distance learning range in price from $1200 to $1600 a month. This is more than the cost of many private schools. My family organized a pod with some of our neighbors and it costs $840 a month for each family. This is a bargain but the tutor isn’t happy and there are a whole bunch of issues with it. I think it’s likely she won’t continue past January and we will be forced to figure something out something else.

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Anonymous wrote:Nearly all of my students in an all lower income school have a parent or relative at home with them. A few of them who don’t go to neighbors.

I teach low income ESOL kids. Their families take Covid VERY seriously. They’ve all known families with it and families who have had very bad cases and outcomes. The kids are being kept at home with some family member.

Same here. We surveyed all of my ESOL families and only one out of appr. 35 wants their kid to go back to school. The virus has gone through their neighborhood and where the school is located has one of the highest number of cases in the district. One of my students last spring had a grandmother die of it. The entire family had it. Mom says she must have gotten it at work and it killed her mother. Can you imagine that guilt?

I think that POC who live in multigenerational households are keeping their kids at home. They have older or other family members living there, so where is someone to care for younger children. The childcare dilemma is hardest on college educated single parents and/or household with lower paying jobs like teachers, police officers, administrative workers, government employees, etc. who rely on two incomes and cannot afford extra childcare expense. It is a real problem, as evidenced by the fact that one reason teachers don't want to go back into classrooms is concern about having childcare for their own children. Schools are childcare unless teachers need it.

How did they afford it when the kids were 0-5 and summers?

Many of them stayed home.

Anonymous wrote:Its interesting OP, people like you ranting when you can clearly afford child care and are the issue.

We are at a low income school. Families have figured it out. Low income either get a child care voucher, family/friends or they use the equity hub which is for low income families who pay $50 a month or free if they cannot afford that.

I think its interesting how little people know about the resources out there and instead scapegoat the low income and special needs families as the reason to go back.

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the thing. I don’t think *your* need for childcare outweighs *my* health and safety. Especially because I virtually guarantee I make less money than you and also have children of my own.

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Anonymous wrote:Nearly all of my students in an all lower income school have a parent or relative at home with them. A few of them who don’t go to neighbors.

I teach low income ESOL kids. Their families take Covid VERY seriously. They’ve all known families with it and families who have had very bad cases and outcomes. The kids are being kept at home with some family member.

Same here. We surveyed all of my ESOL families and only one out of appr. 35 wants their kid to go back to school. The virus has gone through their neighborhood and where the school is located has one of the highest number of cases in the district. One of my students last spring had a grandmother die of it. The entire family had it. Mom says she must have gotten it at work and it killed her mother. Can you imagine that guilt?

I think that POC who live in multigenerational households are keeping their kids at home. They have older or other family members living there, so where is someone to care for younger children. The childcare dilemma is hardest on college educated single parents and/or household with lower paying jobs like teachers, police officers, administrative workers, government employees, etc. who rely on two incomes and cannot afford extra childcare expense. It is a real problem, as evidenced by the fact that one reason teachers don't want to go back into classrooms is concern about having childcare for their own children. Schools are childcare unless teachers need it.

How did they afford it when the kids were 0-5 and summers?

Many of them stayed home.

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Anonymous wrote:Nearly all of my students in an all lower income school have a parent or relative at home with them. A few of them who don’t go to neighbors.

I teach low income ESOL kids. Their families take Covid VERY seriously. They’ve all known families with it and families who have had very bad cases and outcomes. The kids are being kept at home with some family member.

Same here. We surveyed all of my ESOL families and only one out of appr. 35 wants their kid to go back to school. The virus has gone through their neighborhood and where the school is located has one of the highest number of cases in the district. One of my students last spring had a grandmother die of it. The entire family had it. Mom says she must have gotten it at work and it killed her mother. Can you imagine that guilt?

I think that POC who live in multigenerational households are keeping their kids at home. They have older or other family members living there, so where is someone to care for younger children. The childcare dilemma is hardest on college educated single parents and/or household with lower paying jobs like teachers, police officers, administrative workers, government employees, etc. who rely on two incomes and cannot afford extra childcare expense. It is a real problem, as evidenced by the fact that one reason teachers don't want to go back into classrooms is concern about having childcare for their own children. Schools are childcare unless teachers need it.

How did they afford it when the kids were 0-5 and summers?

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Anonymous wrote:Nearly all of my students in an all lower income school have a parent or relative at home with them. A few of them who don’t go to neighbors.

I’m sure this is true. Adults are at home in rich households and poor households. As always, it’s the middle class getting squeezed. And criticized on this board.

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Anonymous wrote:Nearly all of my students in an all lower income school have a parent or relative at home with them. A few of them who don’t go to neighbors.

I teach low income ESOL kids. Their families take Covid VERY seriously. They’ve all known families with it and families who have had very bad cases and outcomes. The kids are being kept at home with some family member.

Same here. We surveyed all of my ESOL families and only one out of appr. 35 wants their kid to go back to school. The virus has gone through their neighborhood and where the school is located has one of the highest number of cases in the district. One of my students last spring had a grandmother die of it. The entire family had it. Mom says she must have gotten it at work and it killed her mother. Can you imagine that guilt?

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Anonymous wrote:Nearly all of my students in an all lower income school have a parent or relative at home with them. A few of them who don’t go to neighbors.

I teach low income ESOL kids. Their families take Covid VERY seriously. They’ve all known families with it and families who have had very bad cases and outcomes. The kids are being kept at home with some family member.

Same here. We surveyed all of my ESOL families and only one out of appr. 35 wants their kid to go back to school. The virus has gone through their neighborhood and where the school is located has one of the highest number of cases in the district. One of my students last spring had a grandmother die of it. The entire family had it. Mom says she must have gotten it at work and it killed her mother. Can you imagine that guilt?

I think that POC who live in multigenerational households are keeping their kids at home. They have older or other family members living there, so where is someone to care for younger children. The childcare dilemma is hardest on college educated single parents and/or household with lower paying jobs like teachers, police officers, administrative workers, government employees, etc. who rely on two incomes and cannot afford extra childcare expense. It is a real problem, as evidenced by the fact that one reason teachers don't want to go back into classrooms is concern about having childcare for their own children. Schools are childcare unless teachers need it.

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Anonymous wrote:Nearly all of my students in an all lower income school have a parent or relative at home with them. A few of them who don’t go to neighbors.

I’m sure this is true. Adults are at home in rich households and poor households. As always, it’s the middle class getting squeezed. And criticized on this board.