Anonymous
11/09/2020 21:07
Subject: DC Council At Large race
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't have time to get into specifics but my neighborhood is a gentrifying neighborhood populated both by well-to-do professionals and people who live in public housing. I notice that Charles tries to addresse the concerns of a range of people, both the new and old residents. No, he's not perfect but I find him hitting all the right notes. So, that is not enough detail for you, I'm sure, pp, but that's all that I have time to give you right now.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Haha, pp here. So you've decided he must want to run for mayor because he's a white guy without personality? That's hilarious. No, I'm really impressed with Charles's work. (And with his personality, by the way.) I think it would be a mistake for him to run for mayor and that's why I wanted to know why that one poster is sure he is angling to run.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What signs do you see that make you think Allen is interested in running for mayor? I'm in Ward 6 and I don't see it, but fill us in on what I missed.Anonymous wrote:Lazere looks like he's going to finish fifth, behind both Orange and Goodwin, even with a comparatively big campaign war chest and his much-trumpeted hundreds of endorsements from (mostly white) groups. Perhaps now we can put to rest the notion that he's a viable candidate for anything. After getting clobbered by Mendo two years ago, his best hope was to sneak in thanks to a crowded field, and he flopped.
Lazere's utter failure -- I saw he barely drew 5 percent of the vote in Wards 7/8 -- should serve as a warning sign to Charles Allen, who clearly has his eyes on the mayor's job. Given the choice, a sizable bulk of DC is going to vote for literally anyone (Vincent Orange!) over a white male, no matter how liberal he is.
Lazere's failure also illustrates the chasm in DC between the traditional Black Democratic core of voters -- who think "defund the police" is a bad idea and don't particularly care if bike lanes are ever built in their neighborhoods -- and the ultra-left White population that is loud on Twitter but simply still not an electoral force in DC, at least not as big as a force as they would lead you to believe.
DP. I mean why else is he in politics? He seems pretty personalityless. I think he’s an entitled white guy who just wants to feel important.
what work has he done?
that just sounds like pointless triangulation.
get back to me when he proposes legislation to help get kids back to school.
PP, politician's aren't in charge, the virus is.
Anonymous
11/09/2020 13:46
Subject: DC Council At Large race
Came back to see if that one poster would explain why they're sure that Charles Allen is running for mayor. Still haven't seen any evidence of it. I mean, maybe he is but I'd like to know what specifically points to that. So far that poster just seems to be showing off without being able to provide proof. This is separate from whether you agree with Allen or not. I just want to know why the poster thinks he's running for mayor.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't have time to get into specifics but my neighborhood is a gentrifying neighborhood populated both by well-to-do professionals and people who live in public housing. I notice that Charles tries to addresse the concerns of a range of people, both the new and old residents. No, he's not perfect but I find him hitting all the right notes. So, that is not enough detail for you, I'm sure, pp, but that's all that I have time to give you right now.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Haha, pp here. So you've decided he must want to run for mayor because he's a white guy without personality? That's hilarious. No, I'm really impressed with Charles's work. (And with his personality, by the way.) I think it would be a mistake for him to run for mayor and that's why I wanted to know why that one poster is sure he is angling to run.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What signs do you see that make you think Allen is interested in running for mayor? I'm in Ward 6 and I don't see it, but fill us in on what I missed.Anonymous wrote:Lazere looks like he's going to finish fifth, behind both Orange and Goodwin, even with a comparatively big campaign war chest and his much-trumpeted hundreds of endorsements from (mostly white) groups. Perhaps now we can put to rest the notion that he's a viable candidate for anything. After getting clobbered by Mendo two years ago, his best hope was to sneak in thanks to a crowded field, and he flopped.
Lazere's utter failure -- I saw he barely drew 5 percent of the vote in Wards 7/8 -- should serve as a warning sign to Charles Allen, who clearly has his eyes on the mayor's job. Given the choice, a sizable bulk of DC is going to vote for literally anyone (Vincent Orange!) over a white male, no matter how liberal he is.
Lazere's failure also illustrates the chasm in DC between the traditional Black Democratic core of voters -- who think "defund the police" is a bad idea and don't particularly care if bike lanes are ever built in their neighborhoods -- and the ultra-left White population that is loud on Twitter but simply still not an electoral force in DC, at least not as big as a force as they would lead you to believe.
DP. I mean why else is he in politics? He seems pretty personalityless. I think he’s an entitled white guy who just wants to feel important.
what work has he done?
that just sounds like pointless triangulation.
get back to me when he proposes legislation to help get kids back to school.
Anonymous
11/07/2020 10:40
Subject: DC Council At Large race
Well, I have decided I’m only voting for women on the local level except for mayor so long as Muriel Bowser is the option ( Ward 4 resident -never voted for her/never will). I voted for Henderson and Palacio. I will never vote for Lazere unless there is no female candidate.
Anonymous
11/07/2020 08:52
Subject: DC Council At Large race
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lazere looks like he's going to finish fifth, behind both Orange and Goodwin, even with a comparatively big campaign war chest and his much-trumpeted hundreds of endorsements from (mostly white) groups. Perhaps now we can put to rest the notion that he's a viable candidate for anything. After getting clobbered by Mendo two years ago, his best hope was to sneak in thanks to a crowded field, and he flopped.
Lazere's utter failure -- I saw he barely drew 5 percent of the vote in Wards 7/8 -- should serve as a warning sign to Charles Allen, who clearly has his eyes on the mayor's job. Given the choice, a sizable bulk of DC is going to vote for literally anyone (Vincent Orange!) over a white male, no matter how liberal he is.
Lazere's failure also illustrates the chasm in DC between the traditional Black Democratic core of voters -- who think "defund the police" is a bad idea and don't particularly care if bike lanes are ever built in their neighborhoods -- and the ultra-left White population that is loud on Twitter but simply still not an electoral force in DC, at least not as big as a force as they would lead you to believe.
Lazere drew 4 percent in Ward 7 and 2 percent in Ward 8. He was the ultimate "white liberal bubble" candidate.
Those numbers probably terrify Charles Allen moving forward. His and Lazere's politics are almost exactly the same, as are his chances of winning votes EOTR in a District-wide race.
That’s not how to read the numbers. Lazere drew 12 percent citywide and Henderson won with only 15 percent.
Lazere’s base would not be Ward 8 just like Orange’s base isn’t Ward 3.
But Lazere can get votes in those wards.
What I’ve heard from progressives is they wanted a candidate of color and liked Christina Henderson.
You may be right Charles Allen may get the short end of the stick on future mayors’ runs. But Janeese Lewis George or Karl Racine could win those races.
Unfortunately, four years of white people voting for Trump and harming the country has really turned a lot of people against white people. It’s sad, but as a white person myself, we have to own it. People like Trump and Miller and McConnell and the 99% white GOP have really made people angry.
It’s not policies — Henderson and Lewis George are progressive. We’re going to end up with a much more progressive mayor in the next race. Good.
Anonymous
11/06/2020 20:58
Subject: DC Council At Large race
I did not vote for Ed lizzier and neither did most of the people here in Ward 8. He really comes across as a typical white liberal with a savior complex. It's not just me who thinks that it's a lot of people in Ward 8 and Ward 7.
Anonymous
11/06/2020 17:25
Subject: DC Council At Large race
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Charles Allen seems like a nice guy and I think he's a reasonably effective Councilmember who does a decent job serving a range of issues in Ward 6. His politics are definitely not as left leaning as Lazere's, though he is (obviously) quite liberal. I was disappointed with his un-nuanced take on school reopening, but DCPS' plan was so bad that I think voicing support for it was always going to be a political loser.
FWIW Charles went on the Ludlow-Taylor DCPS/PTO/LSAT/Teachers school walk through re: reopening safety -- his kids both go there and FWIW that makes him 200x more qualified to talk about school issues in DC than most of our councilmembers -- and I actually go the sense that he wants to send his kids back, so I do think we might see him try to engage more on this issue in a helpful way.
Nah. He has shown himself unwilling to actually engage with or listen to constituents who want to reopen the schools. The LSAT/PTO walkthroughs are a joke because they are packed with pro-WTU parents. Many LSAT members sent out the WTU talking points to school listserves.
The L-T walk through had one explicitly pro-reopening parent, 2 LSAT parents who I would describe as slightly pro and slightly con, respectively, but not super public about it in either case, and a PTO rep who had L-T specific concerns (re: mold) and came away impressed. L-T got the whole checklist done and the walk through team seemed to come away thinking that the facilities, at least, were in good shape to reopen. (Don't get me wrong, the PTO in general is more pro-WTU than I am, but the PTO's communications didn't take a position on reopening and L-T had a lot of in person seat uptake...)
Anonymous
11/06/2020 17:03
Subject: DC Council At Large race
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Silverman has forever ruined any chance Lazere ever had of serving in any elected capacity in DC.
how?
Because there's no way he can unseat her. How on earth would he accomplish that? They have basically the same political views, but Silverman has shown to be much more pragmatic than Lazere, who would spend DC back to its 90s depths if he had his way. There are too many voters who would rather not see that again.
That effectively cuts his 2022 chances by a third. He'd be foolish to challenge McDuffie, even though McDuffie should be vulnerable because he doesn't actually do anything. And as we've seen over the past month, he tried to wage a proxy war against Bonds via those idiot protesters and paid the price. He's not beating her if she decides to run.
Anonymous
11/06/2020 15:43
Subject: DC Council At Large race
Anonymous wrote:Charles Allen seems like a nice guy and I think he's a reasonably effective Councilmember who does a decent job serving a range of issues in Ward 6. His politics are definitely not as left leaning as Lazere's, though he is (obviously) quite liberal. I was disappointed with his un-nuanced take on school reopening, but DCPS' plan was so bad that I think voicing support for it was always going to be a political loser.
FWIW Charles went on the Ludlow-Taylor DCPS/PTO/LSAT/Teachers school walk through re: reopening safety -- his kids both go there and FWIW that makes him 200x more qualified to talk about school issues in DC than most of our councilmembers -- and I actually go the sense that he wants to send his kids back, so I do think we might see him try to engage more on this issue in a helpful way.
Nah. He has shown himself unwilling to actually engage with or listen to constituents who want to reopen the schools. The LSAT/PTO walkthroughs are a joke because they are packed with pro-WTU parents. Many LSAT members sent out the WTU talking points to school listserves.
Anonymous
11/06/2020 15:41
Subject: DC Council At Large race
Anonymous wrote:Silverman has forever ruined any chance Lazere ever had of serving in any elected capacity in DC.
how?
Anonymous
11/06/2020 15:06
Subject: DC Council At Large race
Charles Allen seems like a nice guy and I think he's a reasonably effective Councilmember who does a decent job serving a range of issues in Ward 6. His politics are definitely not as left leaning as Lazere's, though he is (obviously) quite liberal. I was disappointed with his un-nuanced take on school reopening, but DCPS' plan was so bad that I think voicing support for it was always going to be a political loser.
FWIW Charles went on the Ludlow-Taylor DCPS/PTO/LSAT/Teachers school walk through re: reopening safety -- his kids both go there and FWIW that makes him 200x more qualified to talk about school issues in DC than most of our councilmembers -- and I actually go the sense that he wants to send his kids back, so I do think we might see him try to engage more on this issue in a helpful way.
FWIW Charles went on the Ludlow-Taylor DCPS/PTO/LSAT/Teachers school walk through re: reopening safety -- his kids both go there and FWIW that makes him 200x more qualified to talk about school issues in DC than most of our councilmembers -- and I actually go the sense that he wants to send his kids back, so I do think we might see him try to engage more on this issue in a helpful way.
Anonymous
11/06/2020 14:54
Subject: DC Council At Large race
Silverman has forever ruined any chance Lazere ever had of serving in any elected capacity in DC.
Anonymous
11/06/2020 13:28
Subject: DC Council At Large race
Re: Lazere.
Though it's a free country and he can do whatever he wants, one hopes he gets the message and doesn't run again.
He's not beating Mendo in 2022; he tried it before and got simply demolished.
That leaves either a run at McDuffie's Ward 5 seat -- though I'm not sure that McDuffie has accomplished a damn thing, Lazere isn't winning that race -- or trying again for an at-large spot, the ones currently held by Silverman and Bonds that are up in 2022. If the latter decides to retire (she'll be in her late 70s in 2022), maybe Lazere could get there, though his problems attracting voters in Wards 7/8 aren't going anywhere.
Though it's a free country and he can do whatever he wants, one hopes he gets the message and doesn't run again.
He's not beating Mendo in 2022; he tried it before and got simply demolished.
That leaves either a run at McDuffie's Ward 5 seat -- though I'm not sure that McDuffie has accomplished a damn thing, Lazere isn't winning that race -- or trying again for an at-large spot, the ones currently held by Silverman and Bonds that are up in 2022. If the latter decides to retire (she'll be in her late 70s in 2022), maybe Lazere could get there, though his problems attracting voters in Wards 7/8 aren't going anywhere.
Anonymous
11/06/2020 13:14
Subject: DC Council At Large race
Anonymous wrote:Don't have time to get into specifics but my neighborhood is a gentrifying neighborhood populated both by well-to-do professionals and people who live in public housing. I notice that Charles tries to addresse the concerns of a range of people, both the new and old residents. No, he's not perfect but I find him hitting all the right notes. So, that is not enough detail for you, I'm sure, pp, but that's all that I have time to give you right now.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Haha, pp here. So you've decided he must want to run for mayor because he's a white guy without personality? That's hilarious. No, I'm really impressed with Charles's work. (And with his personality, by the way.) I think it would be a mistake for him to run for mayor and that's why I wanted to know why that one poster is sure he is angling to run.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What signs do you see that make you think Allen is interested in running for mayor? I'm in Ward 6 and I don't see it, but fill us in on what I missed.Anonymous wrote:Lazere looks like he's going to finish fifth, behind both Orange and Goodwin, even with a comparatively big campaign war chest and his much-trumpeted hundreds of endorsements from (mostly white) groups. Perhaps now we can put to rest the notion that he's a viable candidate for anything. After getting clobbered by Mendo two years ago, his best hope was to sneak in thanks to a crowded field, and he flopped.
Lazere's utter failure -- I saw he barely drew 5 percent of the vote in Wards 7/8 -- should serve as a warning sign to Charles Allen, who clearly has his eyes on the mayor's job. Given the choice, a sizable bulk of DC is going to vote for literally anyone (Vincent Orange!) over a white male, no matter how liberal he is.
Lazere's failure also illustrates the chasm in DC between the traditional Black Democratic core of voters -- who think "defund the police" is a bad idea and don't particularly care if bike lanes are ever built in their neighborhoods -- and the ultra-left White population that is loud on Twitter but simply still not an electoral force in DC, at least not as big as a force as they would lead you to believe.
DP. I mean why else is he in politics? He seems pretty personalityless. I think he’s an entitled white guy who just wants to feel important.
what work has he done?
that just sounds like pointless triangulation.
get back to me when he proposes legislation to help get kids back to school.
Anonymous
11/06/2020 11:40
Subject: DC Council At Large race
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Haha, pp here. So you've decided he must want to run for mayor because he's a white guy without personality? That's hilarious. No, I'm really impressed with Charles's work. (And with his personality, by the way.) I think it would be a mistake for him to run for mayor and that's why I wanted to know why that one poster is sure he is angling to run.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What signs do you see that make you think Allen is interested in running for mayor? I'm in Ward 6 and I don't see it, but fill us in on what I missed.Anonymous wrote:Lazere looks like he's going to finish fifth, behind both Orange and Goodwin, even with a comparatively big campaign war chest and his much-trumpeted hundreds of endorsements from (mostly white) groups. Perhaps now we can put to rest the notion that he's a viable candidate for anything. After getting clobbered by Mendo two years ago, his best hope was to sneak in thanks to a crowded field, and he flopped.
Lazere's utter failure -- I saw he barely drew 5 percent of the vote in Wards 7/8 -- should serve as a warning sign to Charles Allen, who clearly has his eyes on the mayor's job. Given the choice, a sizable bulk of DC is going to vote for literally anyone (Vincent Orange!) over a white male, no matter how liberal he is.
Lazere's failure also illustrates the chasm in DC between the traditional Black Democratic core of voters -- who think "defund the police" is a bad idea and don't particularly care if bike lanes are ever built in their neighborhoods -- and the ultra-left White population that is loud on Twitter but simply still not an electoral force in DC, at least not as big as a force as they would lead you to believe.
DP. I mean why else is he in politics? He seems pretty personalityless. I think he’s an entitled white guy who just wants to feel important.
Because he feels the need to insert himself into every single issue on social media, the kind of get-out-there grandstanding that future mayoral hopefuls often do.
I was super pissed at his position on schools, yet complete failure to indtroduce legislation on reopening.
Anonymous
11/06/2020 11:40
Subject: DC Council At Large race
Don't have time to get into specifics but my neighborhood is a gentrifying neighborhood populated both by well-to-do professionals and people who live in public housing. I notice that Charles tries to addresse the concerns of a range of people, both the new and old residents. No, he's not perfect but I find him hitting all the right notes. So, that is not enough detail for you, I'm sure, pp, but that's all that I have time to give you right now.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Haha, pp here. So you've decided he must want to run for mayor because he's a white guy without personality? That's hilarious. No, I'm really impressed with Charles's work. (And with his personality, by the way.) I think it would be a mistake for him to run for mayor and that's why I wanted to know why that one poster is sure he is angling to run.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What signs do you see that make you think Allen is interested in running for mayor? I'm in Ward 6 and I don't see it, but fill us in on what I missed.Anonymous wrote:Lazere looks like he's going to finish fifth, behind both Orange and Goodwin, even with a comparatively big campaign war chest and his much-trumpeted hundreds of endorsements from (mostly white) groups. Perhaps now we can put to rest the notion that he's a viable candidate for anything. After getting clobbered by Mendo two years ago, his best hope was to sneak in thanks to a crowded field, and he flopped.
Lazere's utter failure -- I saw he barely drew 5 percent of the vote in Wards 7/8 -- should serve as a warning sign to Charles Allen, who clearly has his eyes on the mayor's job. Given the choice, a sizable bulk of DC is going to vote for literally anyone (Vincent Orange!) over a white male, no matter how liberal he is.
Lazere's failure also illustrates the chasm in DC between the traditional Black Democratic core of voters -- who think "defund the police" is a bad idea and don't particularly care if bike lanes are ever built in their neighborhoods -- and the ultra-left White population that is loud on Twitter but simply still not an electoral force in DC, at least not as big as a force as they would lead you to believe.
DP. I mean why else is he in politics? He seems pretty personalityless. I think he’s an entitled white guy who just wants to feel important.
what work has he done?