Anonymous
Post 10/26/2020 12:45     Subject: Teacher Assignments
OP here, WOW.

My thread has been hijacked. I just wanted to know if anyone knew when teachers would know assignments
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2020 12:44     Subject: Teacher Assignments
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:How do people think this is a good plan for Students with SN or ELL? They are still receiving all of their special instruction virtually. At best they are getting babysitters. Babysitters who will be setting them up on iPads to receive there services.

Also WTU has been fighting DCPS for months because DCPS violated the law. That is literally what the PERB review showed. Even the council members during the Town Hall Friday expressed dismay at DCPS poor planning and lack of transparency around reopening schools. So blame DCPS for the delay not the people holding them accountable. Unions were created to protect people from unsafe working conditions. Sounds like they are doing their job.

So say you want your children out of your house, say you want things back to normal but don’t say this plan is good for students. And its not safe for anybody. 100’s of kids and teachers in one building. I dont think so. Not for me or my child with SN.

Well, they get their main content live, but their supports virtually. But I see your point - its really hard to say how successful this could possibly be.


So if SN parents don't value the live main content - give the gen ed kids their gen ed teachers back for virtual teaching, and bring in the specialists!!


You clearly have no clue about how special education actually works ... the general Ed teacher is a key component, not just the specialized teachers. it would be better for all the staff to be back, but in person in a small class is 100% better than DL for most kids with IEPs.



I wouldn't say the gen ed teacher is the ket component but one of them.

Without the sped teacher's differentiation to help them access and/or understand the lessons better the in person won't be nearly as strong. It's like sending a sped student without them getting services. They would be a sped student then.

And yes I do know they'll get service virtually but this is a HUGE flaw in this plan. Yes, things will be a bit better with a small class but gen ed teachers do not have the same level of differentiation skills some students need. Not to say this is every gen ed teacher but many.

So this is my worry that the ELL and Sped students will not get as much support as we might actually be thinking.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2020 12:41     Subject: Teacher Assignments
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Anonymous wrote:I can only imagine the onslaught of angry emails and phone calls when these announcements are made. If my child loses his amazing teacher who has been rocking it at DL I'm going to go nuts.


so privileged. that teacher is going to teach kids who need in-person learning. but hey it’s never been any secret that you all resent “those” kids.


come on, the two are not mutually exclusive. I know everybody wants whats best for SN and at-risk kids, while also not wanting their own kids to lose out on teachers they really love. No need for the hate.


I mean you’re literally trying to stop SN and homeless kids from getting the support they need because you don’t want to switch teachers. It is mutually exclusive. You think your child’s “love” for their teacher means SN kids shouldn’t be able to access the curriculum.



This, exactly! I'm the parent of SN kids and I can't even interact with the idiotic parents at our WOTP elementary who parrot the WTU talking points. How about we shut down schools "only when it's safe" for my kids to access education?


Solidarity sister. I always knew they only cared about their own kids despite all the talk of their values.


I’m think I’m not hearing your concern for their kids. Am I missing something? Should not the effort to understand be mutual?


I don’t think “their” kids will fail if their teacher changes and class size increases modestly. But I know that many kids with IEPs need to be back in person to continue learning. more globally, I am very much in favor of EVERYONE returning in the least disruptive and most rapid manner. To that end I am in fact concerned about all kids and angry that WTU and their allies are trying to sow chaos and make people fearful about returning.


I think your distinction between IEP and non-IEP kids is a little stark. As with many things, there is a spectrum.

Further, there are kuds who would’ve gotten IEP’s over the last 9 months in a normally functioning world. There are the probable-ADHD kids who don’t have IEPs because they thrive on the structure and focus of in-person school but who are disasters at DL. There are the IEP kids for whom DL has been more manageable.

The point is — it’s not a rigid us and them and you do win no support by belittling the needs of some others.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2020 12:39     Subject: Teacher Assignments
Anonymous wrote:How do people think this is a good plan for Students with SN or ELL? They are still receiving all of their special instruction virtually. At best they are getting babysitters. Babysitters who will be setting them up on iPads to receive there services.

Also WTU has been fighting DCPS for months because DCPS violated the law. That is literally what the PERB review showed. Even the council members during the Town Hall Friday expressed dismay at DCPS poor planning and lack of transparency around reopening schools. So blame DCPS for the delay not the people holding them accountable. Unions were created to protect people from unsafe working conditions. Sounds like they are doing their job.

So say you want your children out of your house, say you want things back to normal but don’t say this plan is good for students. And its not safe for anybody. 100’s of kids and teachers in one building. I dont think so. Not for me or my child with SN.


You're calling gen ed teachers babysitters?
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2020 12:33     Subject: Teacher Assignments
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can only imagine the onslaught of angry emails and phone calls when these announcements are made. If my child loses his amazing teacher who has been rocking it at DL I'm going to go nuts.


so privileged. that teacher is going to teach kids who need in-person learning. but hey it’s never been any secret that you all resent “those” kids.


come on, the two are not mutually exclusive. I know everybody wants whats best for SN and at-risk kids, while also not wanting their own kids to lose out on teachers they really love. No need for the hate.


I mean you’re literally trying to stop SN and homeless kids from getting the support they need because you don’t want to switch teachers. It is mutually exclusive. You think your child’s “love” for their teacher means SN kids shouldn’t be able to access the curriculum.



This, exactly! I'm the parent of SN kids and I can't even interact with the idiotic parents at our WOTP elementary who parrot the WTU talking points. How about we shut down schools "only when it's safe" for my kids to access education?


Solidarity sister. I always knew they only cared about their own kids despite all the talk of their values.


I’m think I’m not hearing your concern for their kids. Am I missing something? Should not the effort to understand be mutual?


I don’t think “their” kids will fail if their teacher changes and class size increases modestly. But I know that many kids with IEPs need to be back in person to continue learning. more globally, I am very much in favor of EVERYONE returning in the least disruptive and most rapid manner. To that end I am in fact concerned about all kids and angry that WTU and their allies are trying to sow chaos and make people fearful about returning.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2020 12:29     Subject: Teacher Assignments
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How do people think this is a good plan for Students with SN or ELL? They are still receiving all of their special instruction virtually. At best they are getting babysitters. Babysitters who will be setting them up on iPads to receive there services.

Also WTU has been fighting DCPS for months because DCPS violated the law. That is literally what the PERB review showed. Even the council members during the Town Hall Friday expressed dismay at DCPS poor planning and lack of transparency around reopening schools. So blame DCPS for the delay not the people holding them accountable. Unions were created to protect people from unsafe working conditions. Sounds like they are doing their job.

So say you want your children out of your house, say you want things back to normal but don’t say this plan is good for students. And its not safe for anybody. 100’s of kids and teachers in one building. I dont think so. Not for me or my child with SN.

Well, they get their main content live, but their supports virtually. But I see your point - its really hard to say how successful this could possibly be.


So if SN parents don't value the live main content - give the gen ed kids their gen ed teachers back for virtual teaching, and bring in the specialists!!


You clearly have no clue about how special education actually works ... the general Ed teacher is a key component, not just the specialized teachers. it would be better for all the staff to be back, but in person in a small class is 100% better than DL for most kids with IEPs.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2020 12:28     Subject: Teacher Assignments
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can only imagine the onslaught of angry emails and phone calls when these announcements are made. If my child loses his amazing teacher who has been rocking it at DL I'm going to go nuts.


so privileged. that teacher is going to teach kids who need in-person learning. but hey it’s never been any secret that you all resent “those” kids.


come on, the two are not mutually exclusive. I know everybody wants whats best for SN and at-risk kids, while also not wanting their own kids to lose out on teachers they really love. No need for the hate.


I mean you’re literally trying to stop SN and homeless kids from getting the support they need because you don’t want to switch teachers. It is mutually exclusive. You think your child’s “love” for their teacher means SN kids shouldn’t be able to access the curriculum.



This, exactly! I'm the parent of SN kids and I can't even interact with the idiotic parents at our WOTP elementary who parrot the WTU talking points. How about we shut down schools "only when it's safe" for my kids to access education?


Solidarity sister. I always knew they only cared about their own kids despite all the talk of their values.


I’m think I’m not hearing your concern for their kids. Am I missing something? Should not the effort to understand be mutual?
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2020 12:26     Subject: Teacher Assignments
Anonymous wrote:How do people think this is a good plan for Students with SN or ELL? They are still receiving all of their special instruction virtually. At best they are getting babysitters. Babysitters who will be setting them up on iPads to receive there services.

Also WTU has been fighting DCPS for months because DCPS violated the law. That is literally what the PERB review showed. Even the council members during the Town Hall Friday expressed dismay at DCPS poor planning and lack of transparency around reopening schools. So blame DCPS for the delay not the people holding them accountable. Unions were created to protect people from unsafe working conditions. Sounds like they are doing their job.

So say you want your children out of your house, say you want things back to normal but don’t say this plan is good for students. And its not safe for anybody. 100’s of kids and teachers in one building. I dont think so. Not for me or my child with SN.


they are getting an actual teacher, not a “babysitter.” you sound confused about the plan and clueless about special education.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2020 12:25     Subject: Teacher Assignments
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can only imagine the onslaught of angry emails and phone calls when these announcements are made. If my child loses his amazing teacher who has been rocking it at DL I'm going to go nuts.


so privileged. that teacher is going to teach kids who need in-person learning. but hey it’s never been any secret that you all resent “those” kids.


come on, the two are not mutually exclusive. I know everybody wants whats best for SN and at-risk kids, while also not wanting their own kids to lose out on teachers they really love. No need for the hate.


I mean you’re literally trying to stop SN and homeless kids from getting the support they need because you don’t want to switch teachers. It is mutually exclusive. You think your child’s “love” for their teacher means SN kids shouldn’t be able to access the curriculum.



This, exactly! I'm the parent of SN kids and I can't even interact with the idiotic parents at our WOTP elementary who parrot the WTU talking points. How about we shut down schools "only when it's safe" for my kids to access education?


Solidarity sister. I always knew they only cared about their own kids despite all the talk of their values.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2020 12:23     Subject: Teacher Assignments
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can only imagine the onslaught of angry emails and phone calls when these announcements are made. If my child loses his amazing teacher who has been rocking it at DL I'm going to go nuts.


so privileged. that teacher is going to teach kids who need in-person learning. but hey it’s never been any secret that you all resent “those” kids.


come on, the two are not mutually exclusive. I know everybody wants whats best for SN and at-risk kids, while also not wanting their own kids to lose out on teachers they really love. No need for the hate.


I mean you’re literally trying to stop SN and homeless kids from getting the support they need because you don’t want to switch teachers. It is mutually exclusive. You think your child’s “love” for their teacher means SN kids shouldn’t be able to access the curriculum.



Different poster.
Are you saying that the only way for the couple of SN kids in each current general ed class to access the curriculum is to be taught in-person, in a group of 8-10 kids, with one of the current general ed teachers who usually teach 22 kids each? And you're judging parents who are worried about their own kids continuing distance learning in a brand new schedule of 38 kids Teams meetings? Our kids may not have special needs, and they may have done well with distance learning so far, but a Teams class of 38 elementary students is not going to go well.
As those old white guys like to politely say to each other, "Come on, man!"


yes, I am absolutely saying the SN largely need to be in person.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2020 12:14     Subject: Teacher Assignments
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How do people think this is a good plan for Students with SN or ELL? They are still receiving all of their special instruction virtually. At best they are getting babysitters. Babysitters who will be setting them up on iPads to receive there services.

Also WTU has been fighting DCPS for months because DCPS violated the law. That is literally what the PERB review showed. Even the council members during the Town Hall Friday expressed dismay at DCPS poor planning and lack of transparency around reopening schools. So blame DCPS for the delay not the people holding them accountable. Unions were created to protect people from unsafe working conditions. Sounds like they are doing their job.

So say you want your children out of your house, say you want things back to normal but don’t say this plan is good for students. And its not safe for anybody. 100’s of kids and teachers in one building. I dont think so. Not for me or my child with SN.

Well, they get their main content live, but their supports virtually. But I see your point - its really hard to say how successful this could possibly be.


So if SN parents don't value the live main content - give the gen ed kids their gen ed teachers back for virtual teaching, and bring in the specialists!!



Well thats illegal. And it would not work since Specialist have to go between classes to service children of different grades. My point is that we need to wait until its safe enough for ALL students to go back even if it is broken up in a cohort model. And ALL students should remain with the teacher that they have built a relationship with these past few months. Even if I did send my kid back theres no guarantee it would be with his current teacher. We are all at risk of losing our teacher. And its hard enough for my child with SN to build a relationship with new adults in the first place.

Also its not that I dont value live instruction. Its that I dont think this plan supports my child in a way they could receive instruction. More importantly I dont think its safe. Between the Cares classrooms and the live instruction classrooms thats too many people in a building.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2020 12:06     Subject: Teacher Assignments
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How do people think this is a good plan for Students with SN or ELL? They are still receiving all of their special instruction virtually. At best they are getting babysitters. Babysitters who will be setting them up on iPads to receive there services.

Also WTU has been fighting DCPS for months because DCPS violated the law. That is literally what the PERB review showed. Even the council members during the Town Hall Friday expressed dismay at DCPS poor planning and lack of transparency around reopening schools. So blame DCPS for the delay not the people holding them accountable. Unions were created to protect people from unsafe working conditions. Sounds like they are doing their job.

So say you want your children out of your house, say you want things back to normal but don’t say this plan is good for students. And its not safe for anybody. 100’s of kids and teachers in one building. I dont think so. Not for me or my child with SN.

Well, they get their main content live, but their supports virtually. But I see your point - its really hard to say how successful this could possibly be.


So if SN parents don't value the live main content - give the gen ed kids their gen ed teachers back for virtual teaching, and bring in the specialists!!


This is what some charters are doing. DL for all, in-person DL with live support for the kids who need it.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2020 12:04     Subject: Teacher Assignments
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How do people think this is a good plan for Students with SN or ELL? They are still receiving all of their special instruction virtually. At best they are getting babysitters. Babysitters who will be setting them up on iPads to receive there services.

Also WTU has been fighting DCPS for months because DCPS violated the law. That is literally what the PERB review showed. Even the council members during the Town Hall Friday expressed dismay at DCPS poor planning and lack of transparency around reopening schools. So blame DCPS for the delay not the people holding them accountable. Unions were created to protect people from unsafe working conditions. Sounds like they are doing their job.

So say you want your children out of your house, say you want things back to normal but don’t say this plan is good for students. And its not safe for anybody. 100’s of kids and teachers in one building. I dont think so. Not for me or my child with SN.

Well, they get their main content live, but their supports virtually. But I see your point - its really hard to say how successful this could possibly be.


So if SN parents don't value the live main content - give the gen ed kids their gen ed teachers back for virtual teaching, and bring in the specialists!!
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2020 11:59     Subject: Teacher Assignments
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can only imagine the onslaught of angry emails and phone calls when these announcements are made. If my child loses his amazing teacher who has been rocking it at DL I'm going to go nuts.


so privileged. that teacher is going to teach kids who need in-person learning. but hey it’s never been any secret that you all resent “those” kids.


come on, the two are not mutually exclusive. I know everybody wants whats best for SN and at-risk kids, while also not wanting their own kids to lose out on teachers they really love. No need for the hate.


I mean you’re literally trying to stop SN and homeless kids from getting the support they need because you don’t want to switch teachers. It is mutually exclusive. You think your child’s “love” for their teacher means SN kids shouldn’t be able to access the curriculum.



Different poster.
Are you saying that the only way for the couple of SN kids in each current general ed class to access the curriculum is to be taught in-person, in a group of 8-10 kids, with one of the current general ed teachers who usually teach 22 kids each? And you're judging parents who are worried about their own kids continuing distance learning in a brand new schedule of 38 kids Teams meetings? Our kids may not have special needs, and they may have done well with distance learning so far, but a Teams class of 38 elementary students is not going to go well.
As those old white guys like to politely say to each other, "Come on, man!"


Old white guys? Polite? Ok.

Also yes, even a gen ed teacher will give SN kids something better than DL can. Also they ALL WON'T be SN kids. Who's perpetuating this lie here?
Ged ed teachers should also be able to differentiate, not as good as Sped teachers but they should still be able to do it.

Online will require a lot of innovation and teachers have historically been charged with this task.

OK, you didn't grasp my old white guys reference. Moving on.
Noone's denying what the absolute ideal learning conditions for SN kids are.
We're arguing that it's not fair to accuse gen ed parents of resenting SN kids, in a situation where the entire system is being torn apart to provide them with ideal conditions they don't even get outside of the pandemic, at the cost of appaling conditions for gen ed kids.

"Historically" LOL.
"a lot of innovation" lol.
Just your attitude in general, lol.

Anonymous
Post 10/26/2020 11:57     Subject: Teacher Assignments
Anonymous wrote:How do people think this is a good plan for Students with SN or ELL? They are still receiving all of their special instruction virtually. At best they are getting babysitters. Babysitters who will be setting them up on iPads to receive there services.

Also WTU has been fighting DCPS for months because DCPS violated the law. That is literally what the PERB review showed. Even the council members during the Town Hall Friday expressed dismay at DCPS poor planning and lack of transparency around reopening schools. So blame DCPS for the delay not the people holding them accountable. Unions were created to protect people from unsafe working conditions. Sounds like they are doing their job.

So say you want your children out of your house, say you want things back to normal but don’t say this plan is good for students. And its not safe for anybody. 100’s of kids and teachers in one building. I dont think so. Not for me or my child with SN.

Well, they get their main content live, but their supports virtually. But I see your point - its really hard to say how successful this could possibly be.